too much rock for a 75g FOWLR? pics

unbreakable · 06/15/2008, 02:48 PM

i have no idea how many lbs of rock it is. i still have a lot more in the sump. lol. it was going to be an SPS tank but decided that school at the moment is more important and would rather have a tank that i just need to feed and do a water change. i just added sand since it was BB.

im just wondering if there will be enough swimming room or if i need to take out a lot of that rock so they can swim around

here are some bad pics with a camera phone:

Left Side of the tank, looking through the side:

Right Side:

so what do you think? too much rock for a FOWLR? there will be mostly wrasses in the tank

Harry_Fish · 06/15/2008, 05:12 PM

I have almost double that in my 72 Gal tank

I built lots of caves

USC-fan · 06/15/2008, 05:15 PM

No, you are fine.

basssnake · 06/15/2008, 05:18 PM

There really isn't too much rock, as long as your fish have enough room to swim for exercise and there enjoyment. I think it looks great and you could do more if you wanted. Is it live rock or base rock? It looks like nice rock. I am curious to what it is.....JL

unbreakable · 06/15/2008, 05:57 PM

its a mix of 3 types of rock: Spaghetti rock, fiji premium live rock (only about 16 lbs of it in there), and regular fiji rock from Marco Rocks thats 25 lbs. at the time i bought the spaghetti rock they were sold out on regular fiji, so i went with the spaghetti since it was cheap but its really heavy. it also had a lot of red on it that had to be washed off. I liked the fiji rock better than the spaghetti and the premium fiji rock

i still have some spaghetti rock and premium fiji in my sump that will probably end up in my biocube 14

i wasnt sure if it would be too much rock since itll have wrasses and a flame angel along with 3 fish from my 28. i was thinking of adding a heniochus or long nose butterfly fish

thanks everyone!

Mykel Obvious · 06/15/2008, 05:57 PM

It really depends on what type of fish you want to keep... there are several that will love the rock and all the lovely places to hang out or hide as needed.

Speaking of which, what are you thinking about keeping?

unbreakable · 06/15/2008, 06:32 PM

Mykel I think a flame angel, yellow coris wrasse, heniochus or butterfly, maybe both, and some other wrasses but not sure. I've tried asking people about a fish list but no luck with responses.

I got the sandbed for the wrasses, otherwise it would have been BB

Quote:

Originally posted by Mykel Obvious
It really depends on what type of fish you want to keep... there are several that will love the rock and all the lovely places to hang out or hide as needed.

Speaking of which, what are you thinking about keeping?

xJake · 06/15/2008, 06:37 PM

I think it looks just fine. A good amount of swimming room, a few caves... looks good.

Mykel Obvious · 06/15/2008, 06:46 PM

Sounds good so far... stocking lists are hard to hand out because they are often subjective... a fish I might love, you might hate, or might be incompatible with something high on your list...

It's always better to list what you are interested in, then ask what else you might add... for instance, the banners and butterfly fish aren't on my personal list at all, so I don't know enough to tell you what might go with them vs. what might eat them

So, I'm not much help here... I love wrasses, but can only have the reef safe ones, so again, I'm really not much help on FOWLR tanks I guess

unbreakable · 06/15/2008, 07:15 PM

Lol its alright. I think what worries me more are the nitrates and phosphates. I think ill dose vodka and use biodigest to take care of most of it

Laddy · 06/15/2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nietzsche
............was going to be an SPS tank but decided that school at the moment is more important

These kids these days and their crazy ideas. Don't be afraid to use student loan stipends to subsidize your hobbies.

A few of my dollars were dropped on the blackjack tables in vegas in style

unbreakable · 06/15/2008, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Laddy

These kids these days and their crazy ideas. Don't be afraid to use student loan stipends to subsidize your hobbies.

A few of my dollars were dropped on the blackjack tables in vegas in style

lol thats what my friend does

Mykel Obvious · 06/16/2008, 04:15 AM

I bought a car with my student loan

Looking back, I would have bought a reef tank

otrlynn · 06/16/2008, 08:20 AM

Looks like a good start. I can't tell from the pics, but are there a lot of places that water can circulate through the rocks and that fish can swim through? If not, maybe you can open up the rocks a little bit. I try to avoid "dead end" caves and try to go more for "tunnels".

Veni vidi vici · 06/16/2008, 08:31 AM

Here is my pile of rocks in the 75

unbreakable · 06/16/2008, 02:55 PM

i changed out 10g of water yesterday, im making another 10g to change. ive been cleaning out the filter sock, i have chaeto in the sump with a light on it. im just waiting until 5pm to take my SPS corals to a friend who is going to set it up in his 90g. after that, i plan on giving a PLTA to a different friend, then im going to take the fiji rock from that tank and sell it to the lfs, along with the tank, stand, sand, and possibly the lighting fixture

ill be taking over the iwaki pump and replace the mag drive 9.5, ill be adding my modded tunze 6025s, ill add my octo nw150 skimmer, and ill put a 20g sump that will be temporary

on the way i have some biodigest, rowaphos for my phosphate reactor, and im going to start dosing vodka to keep nitrates low

FTS:

the main cave thats open all the way through:

left side has mini caves that they can go in and connects to other caves:

right side has many caves as well:

this is the right side looking through the side:

Left Side looking through the side with a fish i added:

unbreakable · 06/16/2008, 03:02 PM

just to let you know the tank did cycle already, so dont think i just added rock. the reason it was cloudy was because i had decided on getting sand for wrasses, since it was going to BB for SPS. ive had the lights off through the cycle, did get brown stuff on some of the rocks. im pretty sure im going to see an algae bloom next week

otrlynn · 06/16/2008, 03:44 PM

Neitzsche, the cave and tunnel look great--couldn't really tell they were there in the first picture. As the mom of a university student, I would say mind yours studies AND your reef (and don't spend too much dough on the latter...) LOL!

otrlynn · 06/16/2008, 03:45 PM

oops--"your" studies

zacharytrimble · 06/16/2008, 04:35 PM

I think it's hard to get "too" much live rock...that looks pretty good. I tell ya what though...many times you can get a hammer and chisel and very carefully split the rock...and that way maybe you can stack the pieces higher and fill the tank more on the back and sides rather than having rock protruding out so much...I like the open look myself.

zacharytrimble · 06/16/2008, 04:40 PM

Here's my 75 with about 90 lbs rock....I like to open look...but be careful when you do what I do...many would say that I may crack my tank because rock is towered all along the back wall...but I feel my deep sand bed disperses the weight somewhat and makes it doable.

06/15/2008, 02:48 PM	#1
unbreakable D: Join Date: May 2007 Location: ? Posts: 2,868	too much rock for a 75g FOWLR? pics i have no idea how many lbs of rock it is. i still have a lot more in the sump. lol. it was going to be an SPS tank but decided that school at the moment is more important and would rather have a tank that i just need to feed and do a water change. i just added sand since it was BB. im just wondering if there will be enough swimming room or if i need to take out a lot of that rock so they can swim around here are some bad pics with a camera phone: Left Side of the tank, looking through the side: Right Side: so what do you think? too much rock for a FOWLR? there will be mostly wrasses in the tank

06/15/2008, 05:57 PM	#5
unbreakable D: Join Date: May 2007 Location: ? Posts: 2,868	its a mix of 3 types of rock: Spaghetti rock, fiji premium live rock (only about 16 lbs of it in there), and regular fiji rock from Marco Rocks thats 25 lbs. at the time i bought the spaghetti rock they were sold out on regular fiji, so i went with the spaghetti since it was cheap but its really heavy. it also had a lot of red on it that had to be washed off. I liked the fiji rock better than the spaghetti and the premium fiji rock i still have some spaghetti rock and premium fiji in my sump that will probably end up in my biocube 14 i wasnt sure if it would be too much rock since itll have wrasses and a flame angel along with 3 fish from my 28. i was thinking of adding a heniochus or long nose butterfly fish thanks everyone! __________________ INTERNET= Serious Business!

06/15/2008, 05:57 PM	#6
Mykel Obvious Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Huntsvegas, Alabama Posts: 907	It really depends on what type of fish you want to keep... there are several that will love the rock and all the lovely places to hang out or hide as needed. Speaking of which, what are you thinking about keeping? __________________ Mykel Obvious - "I have a total irreverence for anything connected with society except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper and the old men and old women warmer in the winter and happier in the summer." Brendan Behan Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef

06/15/2008, 06:46 PM	#9
Mykel Obvious Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Huntsvegas, Alabama Posts: 907	Sounds good so far... stocking lists are hard to hand out because they are often subjective... a fish I might love, you might hate, or might be incompatible with something high on your list... It's always better to list what you are interested in, then ask what else you might add... for instance, the banners and butterfly fish aren't on my personal list at all, so I don't know enough to tell you what might go with them vs. what might eat them So, I'm not much help here... I love wrasses, but can only have the reef safe ones, so again, I'm really not much help on FOWLR tanks I guess __________________ Mykel Obvious - "I have a total irreverence for anything connected with society except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper and the old men and old women warmer in the winter and happier in the summer." Brendan Behan Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef

06/15/2008, 07:15 PM	#10
unbreakable D: Join Date: May 2007 Location: ? Posts: 2,868	Lol its alright. I think what worries me more are the nitrates and phosphates. I think ill dose vodka and use biodigest to take care of most of it __________________ INTERNET= Serious Business!

06/15/2008, 05:12 PM	#2
Harry_Fish Moved On Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Liverpool, NY Posts: 1,461	I have almost double that in my 72 Gal tank I built lots of caves

06/15/2008, 05:15 PM	#3
USC-fan Premium Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 3,626	No, you are fine.

06/15/2008, 05:18 PM	#4
basssnake Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Kansas Posts: 838	There really isn't too much rock, as long as your fish have enough room to swim for exercise and there enjoyment. I think it looks great and you could do more if you wanted. Is it live rock or base rock? It looks like nice rock. I am curious to what it is.....JL

06/15/2008, 06:37 PM	#8
xJake Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,385	I think it looks just fine. A good amount of swimming room, a few caves... looks good.

06/16/2008, 04:15 AM	#13
Mykel Obvious Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Huntsvegas, Alabama Posts: 907	I bought a car with my student loan Looking back, I would have bought a reef tank __________________ Mykel Obvious - "I have a total irreverence for anything connected with society except that which makes the roads safer, the beer stronger, the food cheaper and the old men and old women warmer in the winter and happier in the summer." Brendan Behan Current Tank Info: 65 gallon mixed reef

06/16/2008, 08:20 AM	#14
otrlynn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chester County PA Posts: 1,508	Looks like a good start. I can't tell from the pics, but are there a lot of places that water can circulate through the rocks and that fish can swim through? If not, maybe you can open up the rocks a little bit. I try to avoid "dead end" caves and try to go more for "tunnels". __________________ Lynn 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, small pond with a few koi. The fish tank is gone.

06/16/2008, 08:31 AM	#15
Veni vidi vici Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: San Antonio,Texas Posts: 395	Here is my pile of rocks in the 75 __________________ All I wanted was a goldfish........ Current Tank Info: 120 gal

06/16/2008, 02:55 PM	#16
unbreakable D: Join Date: May 2007 Location: ? Posts: 2,868	i changed out 10g of water yesterday, im making another 10g to change. ive been cleaning out the filter sock, i have chaeto in the sump with a light on it. im just waiting until 5pm to take my SPS corals to a friend who is going to set it up in his 90g. after that, i plan on giving a PLTA to a different friend, then im going to take the fiji rock from that tank and sell it to the lfs, along with the tank, stand, sand, and possibly the lighting fixture ill be taking over the iwaki pump and replace the mag drive 9.5, ill be adding my modded tunze 6025s, ill add my octo nw150 skimmer, and ill put a 20g sump that will be temporary on the way i have some biodigest, rowaphos for my phosphate reactor, and im going to start dosing vodka to keep nitrates low FTS: the main cave thats open all the way through: left side has mini caves that they can go in and connects to other caves: right side has many caves as well: this is the right side looking through the side: Left Side looking through the side with a fish i added:

06/16/2008, 03:02 PM	#17
unbreakable D: Join Date: May 2007 Location: ? Posts: 2,868	just to let you know the tank did cycle already, so dont think i just added rock. the reason it was cloudy was because i had decided on getting sand for wrasses, since it was going to BB for SPS. ive had the lights off through the cycle, did get brown stuff on some of the rocks. im pretty sure im going to see an algae bloom next week __________________ INTERNET= Serious Business!

06/16/2008, 03:44 PM	#18
otrlynn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chester County PA Posts: 1,508	Neitzsche, the cave and tunnel look great--couldn't really tell they were there in the first picture. As the mom of a university student, I would say mind yours studies AND your reef (and don't spend too much dough on the latter...) LOL! __________________ Lynn 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, small pond with a few koi. The fish tank is gone.

06/16/2008, 03:45 PM	#19
otrlynn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chester County PA Posts: 1,508	oops--"your" studies __________________ Lynn 1 horse, 1 dog, 2 cats, small pond with a few koi. The fish tank is gone.

06/16/2008, 04:35 PM	#20
zacharytrimble Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 456	I think it's hard to get "too" much live rock...that looks pretty good. I tell ya what though...many times you can get a hammer and chisel and very carefully split the rock...and that way maybe you can stack the pieces higher and fill the tank more on the back and sides rather than having rock protruding out so much...I like the open look myself.

06/16/2008, 04:40 PM	#21
zacharytrimble Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 456	Here's my 75 with about 90 lbs rock....I like to open look...but be careful when you do what I do...many would say that I may crack my tank because rock is towered all along the back wall...but I feel my deep sand bed disperses the weight somewhat and makes it doable.