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Unread 01/02/2010, 06:35 PM   #1
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Tank very cloudy I need help.

My tank is very cloudy and I dont know why my parameters are nitrate 0 nitrite 0 kh 100 ph 8.3 salinity 1.022 thank you in advance for your help.
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Unread 01/02/2010, 06:53 PM   #2
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Do you have an anemone?


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How long has the tank been running? Are we talking newly set up?


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Unread 01/02/2010, 07:52 PM   #4
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It could be dust from newly added sand bed. In this case, it should settle on it's own, but filter media can help. It could also be a bacteria bloom.


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Oh, and if you plan on corals, you might want to get that salinity level up a bit.


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Unread 01/02/2010, 07:55 PM   #6
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From his older posts, his tank is 3 years old and he does have a RBTA. Wonder if it died? I'll have to say, it's a very nice looking tank.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1762417


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My tank is very cloudy and I dont know why my parameters are nitrate 0 nitrite 0 kh 100 ph 8.3 salinity 1.022 thank you in advance for your help.
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by alkalinity do you mean 10 dkH?

what is your ammonia reading?

what kind of tank is this eg fish only, mixed reef etc and how long has it been set up for?

how much live rock do you have in the tank?


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Unread 01/02/2010, 07:59 PM   #8
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carbonate hardness is 100 dkh that is your problem ! do a few water changes and it will clear up !


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Unread 01/02/2010, 08:01 PM   #9
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Hey Cap'n, I posted a link to his tank above your post.


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Unread 01/02/2010, 08:07 PM   #10
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Hey Cap'n, I posted a link to his tank above your post.
thanks ammieguy

In this case what are your measurements for calcium, and magnesium.

If something did indeed die like an anemone then there should be a corresponding ammonia spike.

I would suggest and immediate 30 per cent water change and then would run carbon if not already.
It would not hurt to get hold of a diatom filter and run that for 24 hours


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Unread 01/02/2010, 08:14 PM   #11
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What is a diatom filter? I've never heard of one.


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Unread 01/02/2010, 08:26 PM   #12
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What is a diatom filter? I've never heard of one.
The clarity of the water these give for only running 24hrs is amazing. I use one in a real emergency situation and when a big water change is not possible. I would not use on a regular basis as they strip alot of plankton etc out of the water column that some fish and corals might be depending on

"The "Diatom" is a high speed filter designed to filter water to an extremely pure state. It will filter out particles as small as one micron and removes "Ick" and other parasites. It is designed to operate as a full-time filter. Used properly, the Diatom filter will eliminate the need to tear down or disassemble the aquarium in order to clean it.
The D-1 filters at 150 gph.
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Unread 01/02/2010, 08:30 PM   #13
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Wow, that sounds like something every reefer needs in their arsonal.


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Unread 01/02/2010, 08:35 PM   #14
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Wow, that sounds like something every reefer needs in their arsonal.
not really---they are expensive and can be over used like I posted above

Since I get called into crisis situations quite frequently here is my plan of attack

water change---if don't have enough for 30 per cent

Seachems Prime and Seachems Stabilizer

Prime blocks nitrates and ammonia very effectively in cases of spikes.

Run carbon in some form of fluidized filter---phosban reactor and or cannister

finally run the diatom filter

The type of cloudiness here is important
If white and only suspended in the water---could be bacteria
If while and coating everthing----carbonate dumping due to low pH and or low magnesium
If light green in colour--diatom algae bloom---this is where I would use the diatom filter immediately


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by alkalinity do you mean 10 dkH?

what is your ammonia reading?

what kind of tank is this eg fish only, mixed reef etc and how long has it been set up for?

how much live rock do you have in the tank?

Really.....kh 100????What's that?
If that's ppm he's down to like 5 dkh.
That would explain cloudy water.


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Yeah, I meant only in case of emergency.


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Really.....kh 100????What's that?
If that's ppm he's down to like 5 dkh.
That would explain cloudy water.
agreed that is why a calcium and magnesium level would be helpful here


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Unread 01/02/2010, 08:47 PM   #18
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agreed that is why a calcium and magnesium level would be helpful here
Yup,the big 3.
I'm guessing his tank has gone acid and it's wrecking havoc with the tank chemistry.


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this is not me and i do not have a nem and the tanks been up for about 9 months
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From his older posts, his tank is 3 years old and he does have a RBTA. Wonder if it died? I'll have to say, it's a very nice looking tank.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=1762417



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Unread 01/02/2010, 09:04 PM   #20
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Ahh, ok.


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Unread 01/02/2010, 09:17 PM   #21
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ok the tank is soft corals right now with A sailfin tang about 3 inch, two clarkii clowns, and two damsels. The cloudiness is white and suspended and I seem to misplaced my color chart but I could get my calcium reading which is 500 ppm which I think is a little high and thanks bob your a real help.


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Add a packet of purigen by sea chem. Shouldn't run you more than $12 and it's reusable when you soak it in bleach then give it a vinegar bath. I swear I'm not joking look this impressive new stuff up!


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I'll try it thank you.


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So....you don't know your alk?


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ok the tank is soft corals right now with A sailfin tang about 3 inch, two clarkii clowns, and two damsels. The cloudiness is white and suspended and I seem to misplaced my color chart but I could get my calcium reading which is 500 ppm which I think is a little high and thanks bob your a real help.
first line of defense---30 per cent water change


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