What's wrong with my SPS (AEFW/RedBugs/STN) ? [Macro-Pics Inside]

KromiX · 11/02/2010, 03:14 PM

Help determine whats cause this:

my other sps frags / mini colonies are fine with extension etc, only these are showing symptoms, what would say it it could be based on the pictures:

Click on the HI-RES Closeup for BIG macro pictures, didn't want to link the huge shots directly

Mini-Colony #1:
HI-RES CLOSEUP: http://imgur.com/l3BED.jpg
HI-RES CLOSEUP: http://imgur.com/TTuWV.jpg

Frag #2:
HI-RES CLOSEUP: http://imgur.com/U9Jlg.jpg

twiggyb · 11/02/2010, 03:18 PM

It looks like it's bleaching to me, but I don't know.

ryanrid · 11/02/2010, 04:14 PM

list your water params esp alk.

BrooksReef · 11/02/2010, 05:01 PM

The last picture looks like AEFW to me.

tuberider · 11/02/2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BrooksReef

The last picture looks like AEFW to me.

+1 on that and the first one, millis show symptoms different than other coral due to the rough skeletal structure, smooth Acros show more distinct bite marks.

KromiX · 11/02/2010, 09:37 PM

so you think its all due to AEFW? I guess I need to start dipping everything ?

cwegescheide · 11/02/2010, 10:14 PM

I've fought the AEFW fight before and when I set up my new tank I dipped everything for 6wks every week with Revive. Best thing I ever did.

You should ALWAYS dip everything you put in your tank. Those things can wreak havok in an SPS tank. Good luck. I agree with the others. #2 does look like AEFW to me.

sabodish · 11/03/2010, 06:47 AM

the second pic looks like AEFW to me, as i have been battling them on one colony lately. the first pic does not look like AEFW. Based on what i have read, AEFW usually do not target millis or prostrata, whichever that is..

scottwhitson · 11/03/2010, 11:38 AM

AEFW will attack Millis. They were the first corals in our tank that were attacked.

scottwhitson · 11/03/2010, 11:41 AM

I don't know if this damage is caused by AEFW or not but you can take a turkey baster to your corals and really blast them and see if anything comes off. I does take a considerable blast to get them to fly off.

KromiX · 11/03/2010, 12:24 PM

I did a ReVive coral dip and turkey baster blast and I didnt have any creatures come off the coral, hmm, I was really expecting to see some, now I'm confused??

flyyyguy · 11/03/2010, 04:58 PM

Lots of people with firsthand experience saying that looks like aefw damage, but I really dont think it does

not pronounced enough (bite)marks that I have seen, but just like the debate above whether or not they will attack millis.....there are more than one type of aefw......some will go after millis and similar first, and some will go after them last. The ones that prefer millis seem to be much larger

I would say its a good thing nothing came off of the coral, even though a definitive answer would be nice Im sure

how long have you had the corals in question out of curiousity??

wfournier · 11/03/2010, 05:29 PM

What's your alk?

93Foxstang · 11/03/2010, 05:42 PM

The first pic looks like rtn I would frag the branches that still look good and get rid of the base. Looks to be from shipping stress or water quality is off

93Foxstang · 11/03/2010, 05:45 PM

I would use super glue gel instead of epoxy

sedor · 11/03/2010, 05:51 PM

I have to agree with flyyyguy, it doesn't look like a pest to me. You have yet to post your water parameters which is what I am assuming is the case here. It would also be helpful to know your dosing regiment as in do you use auto dosing pumps, or do it manually, what do you use to maintain levels etc etc. SPS require that your levels stay very consistent day to day and jumps (especially with alk) can kill SPS FAST.

humuhumupukapuka · 11/03/2010, 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottwhitson

AEFW will attack Millis. They were the first corals in our tank that were attacked.

+1. AEFW will attack millis. Just because they are called AEFW doesn't mean it is exclusive to acroporas... In my tank and in others, I've seen AEFWs prefering millis or "hairy" sps. Dip your sps in Iodine and baste, I bet both are affect by aefw,

flyyyguy · 11/04/2010, 12:45 AM

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Just because they are called AEFW doesn't mean it is exclusive to acroporas,

actually it does

fishieness · 11/04/2010, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by humuhumupukapuka

+1. AEFW will attack millis. Just because they are called AEFW doesn't mean it is exclusive to acroporas... In my tank and in others, I've seen AEFWs prefering millis or "hairy" sps. Dip your sps in Iodine and baste, I bet both are affect by aefw,

What do you think a milli is?
I agree with some that the first picture looks more like RTN. I'd start fragging it. As far as the tricolor, I also don't think it looks quite like AEFW, though it could be. Is it like that all around or just on that one side? Have you moved it? How long have you had the pieces for? When did you first notice it? has it progressed?

KromiX · 11/04/2010, 01:39 PM

Just on the back side not getting light really, couple visible spots, I moved it twice yes, noticed it like 4 weeks ago

11/03/2010, 04:58 PM	#12
flyyyguy King of the white corals Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,239	Lots of people with firsthand experience saying that looks like aefw damage, but I really dont think it does not pronounced enough (bite)marks that I have seen, but just like the debate above whether or not they will attack millis.....there are more than one type of aefw......some will go after millis and similar first, and some will go after them last. The ones that prefer millis seem to be much larger I would say its a good thing nothing came off of the coral, even though a definitive answer would be nice Im sure how long have you had the corals in question out of curiousity?? __________________ I like holding hands, snuggling, and long walks on the beach

11/03/2010, 05:51 PM	#16
sedor Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 4,689	I have to agree with flyyyguy, it doesn't look like a pest to me. You have yet to post your water parameters which is what I am assuming is the case here. It would also be helpful to know your dosing regiment as in do you use auto dosing pumps, or do it manually, what do you use to maintain levels etc etc. SPS require that your levels stay very consistent day to day and jumps (especially with alk) can kill SPS FAST. __________________ Ryan

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11/02/2010, 03:14 PM	#1
KromiX V.I.P Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 1,092	What's wrong with my SPS (AEFW/RedBugs/STN) ? [Macro-Pics Inside] Help determine whats cause this: my other sps frags / mini colonies are fine with extension etc, only these are showing symptoms, what would say it it could be based on the pictures: Click on the HI-RES Closeup for BIG macro pictures, didn't want to link the huge shots directly Mini-Colony #1: HI-RES CLOSEUP: http://imgur.com/l3BED.jpg HI-RES CLOSEUP: http://imgur.com/TTuWV.jpg Frag #2: HI-RES CLOSEUP: http://imgur.com/U9Jlg.jpg

11/02/2010, 03:18 PM	#2
twiggyb Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: DeSoto, MO Posts: 3,813	It looks like it's bleaching to me, but I don't know. __________________ -Daniel- Love, grease and chicken peace! Chicken are people too. Current Tank Info: 29g since March 2012

11/02/2010, 04:14 PM	#3
ryanrid Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: sydney australia Posts: 1,425	list your water params esp alk.

11/02/2010, 05:01 PM	#4
BrooksReef Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 312	The last picture looks like AEFW to me.

11/02/2010, 09:37 PM	#6
KromiX V.I.P Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 1,092	so you think its all due to AEFW? I guess I need to start dipping everything ?

11/02/2010, 10:14 PM	#7
cwegescheide YOU have been ignored! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tampa, Florida Posts: 5,231	I've fought the AEFW fight before and when I set up my new tank I dipped everything for 6wks every week with Revive. Best thing I ever did. You should ALWAYS dip everything you put in your tank. Those things can wreak havok in an SPS tank. Good luck. I agree with the others. #2 does look like AEFW to me.

11/03/2010, 06:47 AM	#8
sabodish Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Holly Springs, NC Posts: 1,703	the second pic looks like AEFW to me, as i have been battling them on one colony lately. the first pic does not look like AEFW. Based on what i have read, AEFW usually do not target millis or prostrata, whichever that is..

11/03/2010, 11:38 AM	#9
scottwhitson Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 1,395	AEFW will attack Millis. They were the first corals in our tank that were attacked.

11/03/2010, 11:41 AM	#10
scottwhitson Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Lewiston, Idaho Posts: 1,395	I don't know if this damage is caused by AEFW or not but you can take a turkey baster to your corals and really blast them and see if anything comes off. I does take a considerable blast to get them to fly off.

11/03/2010, 12:24 PM	#11
KromiX V.I.P Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 1,092	I did a ReVive coral dip and turkey baster blast and I didnt have any creatures come off the coral, hmm, I was really expecting to see some, now I'm confused??

11/03/2010, 05:29 PM	#13
wfournier Registered Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 379	What's your alk?

11/03/2010, 05:42 PM	#14
93Foxstang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. louis-North County Posts: 267	The first pic looks like rtn I would frag the branches that still look good and get rid of the base. Looks to be from shipping stress or water quality is off

11/03/2010, 05:45 PM	#15
93Foxstang Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: St. louis-North County Posts: 267	I would use super glue gel instead of epoxy

11/04/2010, 01:39 PM	#20
KromiX V.I.P Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 1,092	Just on the back side not getting light really, couple visible spots, I moved it twice yes, noticed it like 4 weeks ago