57g Illuminata build... feedback/opinions/thoughts please!

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 11:10 AM

Finally got around to taking some pics of my first saltwater build! Looking for any feedback/opinions/thoughts on this set up since I have been doing this all on my own (with the help of RC of course!).

-57g RR Oceanic Illuminata
-Custom Built (by me :-] ) Oak Stand 35"Hx39"Wx21"D
-Trigger Systems Custom CRYS30S Sump/Refugium
-Reef Keeper Lite (+SL1/pH Probe)
-JBJ MacroGlo 25W Refugium light
-Mag7 Return Pump
-2x Koralia Evo 750gph Poweheads
-1x Ecoxotic 453nm Blue Stunner Strip
-6" Clip on Fan
-MagFloat Glass Cleaners
-Buckeye Field Supply 75gpd RO/DI Unit (not pictured)

Items currently backordered...
-Reef Octopus NWB-110 Protein Skimmer
-Eheim Jager 150W heater

Still need to purchase...
-Sunlight supply T5 Tek Light 4X39W

*Haven't gotten around to hooking up all the plumbing, as you can see it is laying behind the sump for the time being

THANKS FOR LOOKING!

yellowRubi · 09/01/2011, 12:05 PM

subscribed! iam doin same setup as you

thegrun · 09/01/2011, 12:09 PM

Very nice set up. I would cut a large opening in the back of your cabinet from just above the top of the sump to 2" below the top of the cabinet to allow for fresh air. Otherwise you will have a moisture build up within the cabinet that is hard on electronic gear and impedes air/water exchange.

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowRubi

subscribed! iam doin same setup as you

Nice! Cannot wait to get the light/get this baby filled with some life! you should start a thread with some pics!

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thegrun

Very nice set up. I would cut a large opening in the back of your cabinet from just above the top of the sump to 2" below the top of the cabinet to allow for fresh air. Otherwise you will have a moisture build up within the cabinet that is hard on electronic gear and impedes air/water exchange.

Have considered this, you think there will still be a lot of water build up even with lots of air movement from the fan? Also, can you explain what you mean by "impedes air/water exchange"?

yellowRubi · 09/01/2011, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smellslikeTUNA

Nice! Cannot wait to get the light/get this baby filled with some life! you should start a thread with some pics!

iam not to good with the pics

i made the stand also myself but i made a 24"x60" to have as much room under the tank as i could

yellowRubi · 09/01/2011, 12:26 PM

yea i would cut a hole in the back of the stand also...

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 01:11 PM

Ok, so for the hole in the back I just pulled some measurements and have a few questions. So the bottom of the wall outlet sits right and 14.5" from the floor, and the top of my sump in the cabinet sits at about 17" from the floor. It doesn't seem like it would be safe to have outlet lower than the sump and I cannot slide the tank further to the right due to the light switches (the outlet on the wall is about an inch in from the left side). With the sump pushed all the way against the right side of the stand I have 4.5" to work with on the left so that I could potentially cut a notch of sorts at ~14" in that 4.5" gap (if that makes sense? I can show you guys a pic of what Im thinking if you need it just let me know).

Also, is this even safe to have the outlet "in" the cabinet? seems like it should be ok since there are other electronics in there... I suppose I could always just cut the hole and leave the cabinet how it is, however I would prefer to be able to push it up close to the wall if possible. What do you guys think?

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 01:14 PM

Ok, so for the hole in the back I just pulled some measurements and have a few questions. So the bottom of the wall outlet sits right and 14.5" from the floor, and the top of my sump in the cabinet sits at about 17" from the floor. It doesn't seem like it would be safe to have outlet lower than the sump in case of splashing and I cannot slide the tank further to the right to have it closer against the wall due to the light switches (the outlet on the wall is about an inch in from the left side). With the sump pushed all the way against the right side of the stand I have 4.5" to work with on the left so that I could potentially cut a notch of sorts at ~14" in that 4.5" gap then continue with the rest of the hole above the sump/to the top of the cabinet. For a visual it would be sort of a horizontal "L" shape. (if that makes sense? I can show you guys a pic of what Im thinking if you need it just let me know).

Also, is this even safe to have the outlet "in" the cabinet? seems like it should be ok since there are other electronics in there... I suppose I could always just cut the hole and leave the cabinet how it is, however I would prefer to be able to push it up close to the wall if possible. What do you guys think?

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 01:17 PM

sorry for the double post!

yellowRubi · 09/01/2011, 01:31 PM

if u feel unsave with the hole and ur power outlet, cut out couple bigger holes on the top of the stand, so it will add some fresh air ,also get a GFCI outlet there

chgoblknazn · 09/01/2011, 01:50 PM

How far away from the wall do you have your tank?

pwreef · 09/01/2011, 02:00 PM

+ Cut lots of holes to let air into that stand. Very nice job on building it BTW. Otherwise you will have moisture running down all walls and doors on the inside. Remember most of the time the temperature of the water and hence the inside of the cabinet will be much higher than your room temperature so you will have condensation + lots of evaporation with that fan you put there. I have the same size tank and the same Koralias. I wish I have gotten the 1050 like their website suggests. The 750s don't create an amazing amount of flow, but sufficient for softies I guess. +++ on GFCI, but make sure to cut a hole right where the outlet is. If it trips you will not be able to get back there without getting all water out of the tank! Good luck.

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chgoblknazn

How far away from the wall do you have your tank?

Right now its just under 2.5" because of the cord for the RKL, would really prefer to have it close to 1" or less if possible, plus the new kitty can squeeze back there for now

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 02:18 PM

I'm thinking I am just going to cut a horizontal "L" shape (with the long end of the L being a larger rectangle). I figure this way I will be able to access the outlet easily and allow for lots of fresh air coming in/out, plus ill be able to push the stand closer to the wall

Railgrinder · 09/01/2011, 02:31 PM

Looks good so far!

smellslikeTUNA · 09/01/2011, 06:10 PM

So I decided to try and tackle this today, got about half way through what I had planned (was a little more difficult to do it by hand then I had anticipated)! Is this hole big enough or should I continue on?

Also, it now fits as tight to the wall as I wanted

AND I also managed to get some "life" in it ;-]

On a side note, I just got an e-mail as I was writing this post that my backordered protein skimmer and heater have shipped :-] wooohooo!

pmark · 09/01/2011, 06:47 PM

Nice catfish!

yellowRubi · 09/01/2011, 07:19 PM

i would say that u should try to make the opening a little bigger to the right, but if u don't feel like doin it anymore it should work just fine ( it will be 10000x better then closed back)

yellowRubi · 09/23/2011, 09:02 AM

any updates??

smellslikeTUNA · 09/23/2011, 09:42 AM

Yes! Sorry, I posted in the equiptment forum heres the link... mixed in the salt yesterday and sand/rock will be here soon!

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2073373

rovster · 09/26/2011, 11:34 AM

Nice set-up. I'm looking at the 75 deep blue rimless and have a similar set-up in mind as you have. I really like your sump. Its one of the best I've found. I can't decide on a DIY or biting the bullet and getting a trigger systems. Did you consider a DIY, and are there any other companies that make similar sumps? Aside from going full custom, they have some of the best layouts if you are not going the wet-dry route. Looking forward to seeing this one pan out. Best of luck with everything!

smellslikeTUNA · 09/26/2011, 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rovster

Nice set-up. I'm looking at the 75 deep blue rimless and have a similar set-up in mind as you have. I really like your sump. Its one of the best I've found. I can't decide on a DIY or biting the bullet and getting a trigger systems. Did you consider a DIY, and are there any other companies that make similar sumps? Aside from going full custom, they have some of the best layouts if you are not going the wet-dry route. Looking forward to seeing this one pan out. Best of luck with everything!

Never considered a DIY, I would def recommend as trigger systems. The design is awesome IMO and for the extra cash it is way nicer than anything I could have thrown together

coopj · 11/17/2011, 09:47 AM

Tuna,
How about an update with some pics?

smellslikeTUNA · 11/28/2011, 12:14 PM

Finally some new pics! Sorry I have been neglecting my thread!

Added ~30 dwarf ceriths and a couple blue legged hermits to help clean up some of my first GHA bloom

Everything underneath is running well

QT is up and running... 1 ocellaris clown and 1 yellowtail damsel (he's a bit shy) Also, any suggestions on names are welcome

Also, have added a copperband butterfly and a hammer coral

The copperband and hammer have only been in the tank overnight, found the sweetest LFS around the corner from my house can't wait to go xmas shopping! I'll put up a FTS and an update on my fuge later tonight!

09/01/2011, 11:10 AM	#1
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	57g Illuminata build... feedback/opinions/thoughts please! Finally got around to taking some pics of my first saltwater build! Looking for any feedback/opinions/thoughts on this set up since I have been doing this all on my own (with the help of RC of course!). -57g RR Oceanic Illuminata -Custom Built (by me :-] ) Oak Stand 35"Hx39"Wx21"D -Trigger Systems Custom CRYS30S Sump/Refugium -Reef Keeper Lite (+SL1/pH Probe) -JBJ MacroGlo 25W Refugium light -Mag7 Return Pump -2x Koralia Evo 750gph Poweheads -1x Ecoxotic 453nm Blue Stunner Strip -6" Clip on Fan -MagFloat Glass Cleaners -Buckeye Field Supply 75gpd RO/DI Unit (not pictured) Items currently backordered... -Reef Octopus NWB-110 Protein Skimmer -Eheim Jager 150W heater Still need to purchase... -Sunlight supply T5 Tek Light 4X39W Haven't gotten around to hooking up all the plumbing, as you can see it is laying behind the sump for the time being THANKS FOR LOOKING! Last edited by smellslikeTUNA; 09/01/2011 at 11:32 AM.*

09/01/2011, 12:05 PM	#2
yellowRubi Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Streamwood,IL Posts: 677	subscribed! iam doin same setup as you __________________ 48x36x20h tank & 40x20x16h Sump - NanoSeaCreations 2x MP40 Quiet Drives, SKIMZ SM161 , Water Blaster HY-7000 Return ATI T5/LED 48"Powermodule, Apex with all the goodies,2 BRS Reactors

09/01/2011, 12:26 PM	#7
yellowRubi Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Streamwood,IL Posts: 677	yea i would cut a hole in the back of the stand also... __________________ 48x36x20h tank & 40x20x16h Sump - NanoSeaCreations 2x MP40 Quiet Drives, SKIMZ SM161 , Water Blaster HY-7000 Return ATI T5/LED 48"Powermodule, Apex with all the goodies,2 BRS Reactors

09/01/2011, 01:11 PM	#8
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	Ok, so for the hole in the back I just pulled some measurements and have a few questions. So the bottom of the wall outlet sits right and 14.5" from the floor, and the top of my sump in the cabinet sits at about 17" from the floor. It doesn't seem like it would be safe to have outlet lower than the sump and I cannot slide the tank further to the right due to the light switches (the outlet on the wall is about an inch in from the left side). With the sump pushed all the way against the right side of the stand I have 4.5" to work with on the left so that I could potentially cut a notch of sorts at ~14" in that 4.5" gap (if that makes sense? I can show you guys a pic of what Im thinking if you need it just let me know). Also, is this even safe to have the outlet "in" the cabinet? seems like it should be ok since there are other electronics in there... I suppose I could always just cut the hole and leave the cabinet how it is, however I would prefer to be able to push it up close to the wall if possible. What do you guys think? __________________ -Great minds don't think alike, they innovate!- 57g Oceanic Illuminata \| Kessil A150W 10K LED \| 1x 453nm Stunner \| Trigger Systems Sump/Refug \| Reef Octopus NWB-110 Skimmer \| RKL+ System \| 2X Evo 750gph \| BFS RO/DI

09/01/2011, 01:14 PM	#9
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	Ok, so for the hole in the back I just pulled some measurements and have a few questions. So the bottom of the wall outlet sits right and 14.5" from the floor, and the top of my sump in the cabinet sits at about 17" from the floor. It doesn't seem like it would be safe to have outlet lower than the sump in case of splashing and I cannot slide the tank further to the right to have it closer against the wall due to the light switches (the outlet on the wall is about an inch in from the left side). With the sump pushed all the way against the right side of the stand I have 4.5" to work with on the left so that I could potentially cut a notch of sorts at ~14" in that 4.5" gap then continue with the rest of the hole above the sump/to the top of the cabinet. For a visual it would be sort of a horizontal "L" shape. (if that makes sense? I can show you guys a pic of what Im thinking if you need it just let me know). Also, is this even safe to have the outlet "in" the cabinet? seems like it should be ok since there are other electronics in there... I suppose I could always just cut the hole and leave the cabinet how it is, however I would prefer to be able to push it up close to the wall if possible. What do you guys think? __________________ -Great minds don't think alike, they innovate!- 57g Oceanic Illuminata \| Kessil A150W 10K LED \| 1x 453nm Stunner \| Trigger Systems Sump/Refug \| Reef Octopus NWB-110 Skimmer \| RKL+ System \| 2X Evo 750gph \| BFS RO/DI

09/01/2011, 12:09 PM	#3
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	Very nice set up. I would cut a large opening in the back of your cabinet from just above the top of the sump to 2" below the top of the cabinet to allow for fresh air. Otherwise you will have a moisture build up within the cabinet that is hard on electronic gear and impedes air/water exchange.

09/01/2011, 01:17 PM	#10
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	sorry for the double post! __________________ -Great minds don't think alike, they innovate!- 57g Oceanic Illuminata \| Kessil A150W 10K LED \| 1x 453nm Stunner \| Trigger Systems Sump/Refug \| Reef Octopus NWB-110 Skimmer \| RKL+ System \| 2X Evo 750gph \| BFS RO/DI

09/01/2011, 01:31 PM	#11
yellowRubi Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Streamwood,IL Posts: 677	if u feel unsave with the hole and ur power outlet, cut out couple bigger holes on the top of the stand, so it will add some fresh air ,also get a GFCI outlet there __________________ 48x36x20h tank & 40x20x16h Sump - NanoSeaCreations 2x MP40 Quiet Drives, SKIMZ SM161 , Water Blaster HY-7000 Return ATI T5/LED 48"Powermodule, Apex with all the goodies,2 BRS Reactors

09/01/2011, 01:50 PM	#12
chgoblknazn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Chicago - East Pilsen/UIC Area Posts: 642	How far away from the wall do you have your tank?

09/01/2011, 02:00 PM	#13
pwreef Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: New York Posts: 585	+ Cut lots of holes to let air into that stand. Very nice job on building it BTW. Otherwise you will have moisture running down all walls and doors on the inside. Remember most of the time the temperature of the water and hence the inside of the cabinet will be much higher than your room temperature so you will have condensation + lots of evaporation with that fan you put there. I have the same size tank and the same Koralias. I wish I have gotten the 1050 like their website suggests. The 750s don't create an amazing amount of flow, but sufficient for softies I guess. +++ on GFCI, but make sure to cut a hole right where the outlet is. If it trips you will not be able to get back there without getting all water out of the tank! Good luck.

09/01/2011, 02:18 PM	#15
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	I'm thinking I am just going to cut a horizontal "L" shape (with the long end of the L being a larger rectangle). I figure this way I will be able to access the outlet easily and allow for lots of fresh air coming in/out, plus ill be able to push the stand closer to the wall __________________ -Great minds don't think alike, they innovate!- 57g Oceanic Illuminata \| Kessil A150W 10K LED \| 1x 453nm Stunner \| Trigger Systems Sump/Refug \| Reef Octopus NWB-110 Skimmer \| RKL+ System \| 2X Evo 750gph \| BFS RO/DI

09/01/2011, 02:31 PM	#16
Railgrinder Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 42	Looks good so far!

09/01/2011, 06:10 PM	#17
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	So I decided to try and tackle this today, got about half way through what I had planned (was a little more difficult to do it by hand then I had anticipated)! Is this hole big enough or should I continue on? Also, it now fits as tight to the wall as I wanted AND I also managed to get some "life" in it ;-] On a side note, I just got an e-mail as I was writing this post that my backordered protein skimmer and heater have shipped :-] wooohooo! __________________ -Great minds don't think alike, they innovate!- 57g Oceanic Illuminata \| Kessil A150W 10K LED \| 1x 453nm Stunner \| Trigger Systems Sump/Refug \| Reef Octopus NWB-110 Skimmer \| RKL+ System \| 2X Evo 750gph \| BFS RO/DI

09/01/2011, 06:47 PM	#18
pmark Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: NYC Posts: 170	Nice catfish!

09/01/2011, 07:19 PM	#19
yellowRubi Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Streamwood,IL Posts: 677	i would say that u should try to make the opening a little bigger to the right, but if u don't feel like doin it anymore it should work just fine ( it will be 10000x better then closed back) __________________ 48x36x20h tank & 40x20x16h Sump - NanoSeaCreations 2x MP40 Quiet Drives, SKIMZ SM161 , Water Blaster HY-7000 Return ATI T5/LED 48"Powermodule, Apex with all the goodies,2 BRS Reactors

09/23/2011, 09:02 AM	#20
yellowRubi Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Streamwood,IL Posts: 677	any updates?? __________________ 48x36x20h tank & 40x20x16h Sump - NanoSeaCreations 2x MP40 Quiet Drives, SKIMZ SM161 , Water Blaster HY-7000 Return ATI T5/LED 48"Powermodule, Apex with all the goodies,2 BRS Reactors

09/23/2011, 09:42 AM	#21
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	Yes! Sorry, I posted in the equiptment forum heres the link... mixed in the salt yesterday and sand/rock will be here soon! http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2073373 __________________ -Great minds don't think alike, they innovate!- 57g Oceanic Illuminata \| Kessil A150W 10K LED \| 1x 453nm Stunner \| Trigger Systems Sump/Refug \| Reef Octopus NWB-110 Skimmer \| RKL+ System \| 2X Evo 750gph \| BFS RO/DI

09/26/2011, 11:34 AM	#22
rovster Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Miramar, FL Posts: 7,518	Nice set-up. I'm looking at the 75 deep blue rimless and have a similar set-up in mind as you have. I really like your sump. Its one of the best I've found. I can't decide on a DIY or biting the bullet and getting a trigger systems. Did you consider a DIY, and are there any other companies that make similar sumps? Aside from going full custom, they have some of the best layouts if you are not going the wet-dry route. Looking forward to seeing this one pan out. Best of luck with everything!

11/17/2011, 09:47 AM	#24
coopj Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: atlanta, ga Posts: 107	Tuna, How about an update with some pics? __________________ Coop J 57 Illuminata Rimless Reef, Eshopps R100 Sump, Walnut Stand, (2)EcoTech MP 10, SRO 1000 Skimmer, Carbon, GFO, UV Sterilizer, Pacific Sun Hyperion, RKL, MRC CR1

11/28/2011, 12:14 PM	#25
smellslikeTUNA Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 453	Finally some new pics! Sorry I have been neglecting my thread! Added ~30 dwarf ceriths and a couple blue legged hermits to help clean up some of my first GHA bloom Everything underneath is running well QT is up and running... 1 ocellaris clown and 1 yellowtail damsel (he's a bit shy) Also, any suggestions on names are welcome Also, have added a copperband butterfly and a hammer coral The copperband and hammer have only been in the tank overnight, found the sweetest LFS around the corner from my house can't wait to go xmas shopping! I'll put up a FTS and an update on my fuge later tonight! __________________ -Great minds don't think alike, they innovate!- 57g Oceanic Illuminata \| Kessil A150W 10K LED \| 1x 453nm Stunner \| Trigger Systems Sump/Refug \| Reef Octopus NWB-110 Skimmer \| RKL+ System \| 2X Evo 750gph \| BFS RO/DI

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