Somebody please help

jmacc702 · 06/12/2012, 07:50 AM

Last night my black&white clown had tiny barely noticeable white spots. I didn't wanna be ich paranoid so I did nothing. This morning.. The white spots have spread and they are now on my naked clown as well. Both clowns are in QT still (have been for about 3 weeks). I would offer pictures but I only have my iPhone and I doubt I could capture anything that could help. Anyways.. What do I do?! These are my first marine fish and I have never battled with ich. :/

EllieSuz · 06/12/2012, 08:00 AM

My first suggestion would be to treat immediately with copper. Cupramine is a popular brand and should be available at your local LFS. Follow the instructions carefully. Presuming you do not have any rock or other porous material in QT, treatment can begin right away. Make sure you have adequate oxygen exchange. A powerhead pointed at the surface so that the water "roils" is one way. Don't panic; this is the reason we put fish in quarantine.

jmacc702 · 06/12/2012, 03:16 PM

I am utterly confused at this point. I just got home from work and the spots are gone?! What the %#*^ is going on?

Uncle Salty 05 · 06/12/2012, 03:22 PM

You should still follow elliesuz instruction.
They will be back with a vengance.

poakley723 · 06/12/2012, 03:29 PM

Just treat them. Better safe then sorry.

jmacc702 · 06/13/2012, 02:07 AM

Does ich come and go at night? I just woke up in the middle of the night and the spots are back? So strange but I guess I don't know I'm still very very new to this hobby. I will pick up cupramine first thing in the morning, I hope they survive :/

Drew707 · 06/13/2012, 02:12 AM

To break it Down fast ich falls off into eggs on the substrate just to hatch and reattach ..its a pain..good job with the QT tho

Reefahholic · 06/13/2012, 03:56 AM

The spots are only visible for a few days, but the fish are still in danger.

Check out the ICH sticky at top of this page.

jmacc702 · 06/13/2012, 08:59 AM

Both didn't make it past the night. I feel horrible.

MrTuskfish · 06/13/2012, 09:11 AM

If they died that fast, it is very likely be velvet or brooklynella. I'd check out the disease section of our forum and read the stickies there. A tough lesson, but a good example of why a QT is vital. All parasites can wipe out a DT; but velvet and brooklynella are usually much faster. I wouldn't buy anymore fish until you are ready to battle potential parasites/diseases. Good move starting with a QT, I assume no other fish were exposed to these clowns? BTW, being "ich paranoid" is a good thing. Countless folks have left this great hobby because they didn't take ich seriously.

Regarding your signature: My son is 6'6"; when asked if he plays basketball, his answer is ''Sure!. Do you play miniature golf?"

rrasco · 06/13/2012, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrTuskfish

Regarding your signature: My son is 6'6"; when asked if he plays basketball, his answer is ''Sure!. Do you play miniature golf?"

I just seen the OP's siggy in another post, which was funny enough, but that's just hilarious....and I'm only 5'5"

06/12/2012, 07:50 AM	#1
jmacc702 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Currently: Les Sables-d'Olonne, France \| Hometown: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 282	Somebody please help Last night my black&white clown had tiny barely noticeable white spots. I didn't wanna be ich paranoid so I did nothing. This morning.. The white spots have spread and they are now on my naked clown as well. Both clowns are in QT still (have been for about 3 weeks). I would offer pictures but I only have my iPhone and I doubt I could capture anything that could help. Anyways.. What do I do?! These are my first marine fish and I have never battled with ich. :/ __________________ I could be addicted to worse things than reefing.. Current Tank Info: None at the moment :(

06/12/2012, 08:00 AM	#2
EllieSuz Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 3,858	My first suggestion would be to treat immediately with copper. Cupramine is a popular brand and should be available at your local LFS. Follow the instructions carefully. Presuming you do not have any rock or other porous material in QT, treatment can begin right away. Make sure you have adequate oxygen exchange. A powerhead pointed at the surface so that the water "roils" is one way. Don't panic; this is the reason we put fish in quarantine. __________________ "You can't learn this hobby one question at a time." (Mr. Tuskfish) Eileen Current Tank Info: I'm out of the hobby, but used to have a60 gal. reef, refugium in sump, Internal Mag 9 return, SC 302 skimmer, two Maxi-Jet 1200's modded, four bulb T5 Lighting, Reefkeeper Lite Controller with three PC4's, Little Fishes GFO reactor.

06/12/2012, 03:16 PM	#3
jmacc702 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Currently: Les Sables-d'Olonne, France \| Hometown: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 282	I am utterly confused at this point. I just got home from work and the spots are gone?! What the %#*^ is going on? __________________ I could be addicted to worse things than reefing.. Current Tank Info: None at the moment :(

06/12/2012, 03:22 PM	#4
Uncle Salty 05 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Florida Posts: 3,799	You should still follow elliesuz instruction. They will be back with a vengance. __________________ In all that I endure, of one thing I am sure. Knowledge and reason, change like the season. A jester's promenade. - Kerry Livgren Current Tank Info: 180 gal reef tank with dual attached refugiums 20 long and 10 gallon. Plus 55 gallon True Percula breeding tank.

06/13/2012, 02:07 AM	#6
jmacc702 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Currently: Les Sables-d'Olonne, France \| Hometown: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 282	Does ich come and go at night? I just woke up in the middle of the night and the spots are back? So strange but I guess I don't know I'm still very very new to this hobby. I will pick up cupramine first thing in the morning, I hope they survive :/ __________________ I could be addicted to worse things than reefing.. Current Tank Info: None at the moment :(

06/12/2012, 03:29 PM	#5
poakley723 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 128	Just treat them. Better safe then sorry.

06/13/2012, 02:12 AM	#7
Drew707 Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: fairfield ca Posts: 285	To break it Down fast ich falls off into eggs on the substrate just to hatch and reattach ..its a pain..good job with the QT tho

06/13/2012, 03:56 AM	#8
Reefahholic Moved On Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: League City, Texas Posts: 3,974	The spots are only visible for a few days, but the fish are still in danger. Check out the ICH sticky at top of this page.

06/13/2012, 08:59 AM	#9
jmacc702 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Currently: Les Sables-d'Olonne, France \| Hometown: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 282	Both didn't make it past the night. I feel horrible. __________________ I could be addicted to worse things than reefing.. Current Tank Info: None at the moment :(

06/13/2012, 09:11 AM	#10
MrTuskfish Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Wild Blue Yonder Posts: 8,887	If they died that fast, it is very likely be velvet or brooklynella. I'd check out the disease section of our forum and read the stickies there. A tough lesson, but a good example of why a QT is vital. All parasites can wipe out a DT; but velvet and brooklynella are usually much faster. I wouldn't buy anymore fish until you are ready to battle potential parasites/diseases. Good move starting with a QT, I assume no other fish were exposed to these clowns? BTW, being "ich paranoid" is a good thing. Countless folks have left this great hobby because they didn't take ich seriously. Regarding your signature: My son is 6'6"; when asked if he plays basketball, his answer is ''Sure!. Do you play miniature golf?" __________________ If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Steve Current Tank Info: 180, 2-240 FOWLRs, 240 reef