Alkalinity

vncool · 01/07/2017, 10:47 AM

I had switch over the AF reef salt for the month now. I did a 30% water change in the 1st week and 15% in 2nd, 3rd and 4th and my Alkalinity still showing at 9.0 . The reason that I switch the AF because the Alkalinity trace is around 7 to 8. My goal is to get Alkalinity down to 7 but seem impossible. Please help if there is another alternative for my to reduce my Alkalinity to 7.

Equipment
Innovative 40G with Maxspect gyer 130, innovative skimmer and reactor

Water parameters;
Po4 0.0
Nitrate 0
Cal 440
Alk 9.0
Mg 1310

Thanks in Advances

elviraveloz · 01/07/2017, 11:05 AM

Are you dosing alkalinity and calcium?

vncool · 01/07/2017, 11:12 AM

Thanks for the question.

I am dosing red sea reef foundation A(calcium),B,(Alkalinity) and C(magnesium) but I had been stop dosing foundation B to try lower my Alkalinity to 7.

I had been thinking to switch to AF dosing as well but since I had so much supplement left, I would like to finish it.

elviraveloz · 01/07/2017, 05:51 PM

You should stop both,check every day for alkalinity consumption, once reach alkalinity goal start dosing accordingly. Calcium should be balance between 411-418 for alkalinity 7-8.

Aquaforest · 01/09/2017, 03:08 AM

Do not dose KH.
In our salts we are keeping KH similar to Natural Sea Water.
We recommend to keep salinity from 6,5-8,00 dKH.

plyle02 · 01/09/2017, 06:27 AM

First thing I would recommend is to re-calibrate refractometer, I have recently done both of mine, and my values and concentration were too higher than I thought. Just something to first consider.

Next, you will want to heat or cool, depending on your climate, the water mixed to 77 degrees F. This is also an important step.

After that, mix your salt to 34ppt, or1.0256, if you are mixing to specific gravity of 1.0264, that is a higher concentration at 35 ppt, and most of the salts are mixed to around 33ppt, which would be 1.0249 on specific gravity(batch slip inside bucket). So, if you mix higher than 33ppt, you would in fact see a higher concentration of alk, as well as ca, and mg. That said, I see no harm in running the reef at a lower specific gravity, specifically until you are able to see signs of absorption of minerals.

vncool · 01/20/2017, 01:31 PM

thanks for all everyone help..
after 2 more try of 15% water change, I did manage to get the DHK around 7.5 to 8.

Question for phyle02..why is it so important mixing salt with exact temperature? I usually mixed my salt as I poured in the RO water into the bucket ant stir to dissolve.(Maybe this is why I can not get my DHK in check?)

01/07/2017, 10:47 AM	#1
vncool Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5	Alkalinity I had switch over the AF reef salt for the month now. I did a 30% water change in the 1st week and 15% in 2nd, 3rd and 4th and my Alkalinity still showing at 9.0 . The reason that I switch the AF because the Alkalinity trace is around 7 to 8. My goal is to get Alkalinity down to 7 but seem impossible. Please help if there is another alternative for my to reduce my Alkalinity to 7. Equipment Innovative 40G with Maxspect gyer 130, innovative skimmer and reactor Water parameters; Po4 0.0 Nitrate 0 Cal 440 Alk 9.0 Mg 1310 Thanks in Advances

01/07/2017, 11:12 AM	#3
vncool Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5	Alkalinity Thanks for the question. I am dosing red sea reef foundation A(calcium),B,(Alkalinity) and C(magnesium) but I had been stop dosing foundation B to try lower my Alkalinity to 7. I had been thinking to switch to AF dosing as well but since I had so much supplement left, I would like to finish it.

01/09/2017, 06:27 AM	#6
plyle02 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Lake Helen, FL Posts: 5,526	First thing I would recommend is to re-calibrate refractometer, I have recently done both of mine, and my values and concentration were too higher than I thought. Just something to first consider. Next, you will want to heat or cool, depending on your climate, the water mixed to 77 degrees F. This is also an important step. After that, mix your salt to 34ppt, or1.0256, if you are mixing to specific gravity of 1.0264, that is a higher concentration at 35 ppt, and most of the salts are mixed to around 33ppt, which would be 1.0249 on specific gravity(batch slip inside bucket). So, if you mix higher than 33ppt, you would in fact see a higher concentration of alk, as well as ca, and mg. That said, I see no harm in running the reef at a lower specific gravity, specifically until you are able to see signs of absorption of minerals. __________________ Perry "Anger is like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die" ~Buddha~ Current Tank Info: 50 Gallon AIO Cube, Aquamaxx WS-1 Skimmer, LED/ Hybrid 4x24 watt t5

01/07/2017, 11:05 AM	#2
elviraveloz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 447	Are you dosing alkalinity and calcium?

01/07/2017, 05:51 PM	#4
elviraveloz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 447	You should stop both,check every day for alkalinity consumption, once reach alkalinity goal start dosing accordingly. Calcium should be balance between 411-418 for alkalinity 7-8.

01/09/2017, 03:08 AM	#5
Aquaforest RC Sponsor Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 558	Do not dose KH. In our salts we are keeping KH similar to Natural Sea Water. We recommend to keep salinity from 6,5-8,00 dKH.

01/20/2017, 01:31 PM	#7
vncool Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 5	thanks for all everyone help.. after 2 more try of 15% water change, I did manage to get the DHK around 7.5 to 8. Question for phyle02..why is it so important mixing salt with exact temperature? I usually mixed my salt as I poured in the RO water into the bucket ant stir to dissolve.(Maybe this is why I can not get my DHK in check?)