The lfs said it was a fuscus seahorse...

twist of lime · 12/27/2008, 09:25 PM

First of all I have to say this is my first seahorse and I made a stupid mistake. On Friday I was in a lfs and they had what they said and what looked like a fuscus seahorse. I have been planning to get my first dwarf seahorses for my 5 month old 30g and the fish store finaly had the kind I wanted, atleast thats what they said and I thought. She was eating well and looked healthy so I bought her. Well I got her drip acclimated I noticed that she was looking more like a juvinille kellogii seahorse. I gooled and looked closely at the pictures and her and came to the conclusion she is a kellogii. I've heard there has been almost no longterm succsess keeping them. Is there anything I can do to help increase her chances. She is doing very well sofar and eating like a champ. Any advice would help.
Thanks, Diane

Bill Cobb · 12/27/2008, 09:42 PM

I've been keeping and rearing dwarfs for year and a half, and Erectus for 6mos. now. If she's eating then that's half the battle right there. Keeping them fed and good water has been my success.

ReefNutPA · 12/27/2008, 10:52 PM

Personally, if the LFS misrepresented what they were selling I would try using that as a reason to return the seahorse. There are very, very few sucess stories with Kelloggi. Most seem to waste away even though they eat frozen foods well.

I would definitely de-worm the seahorse if you are forced to keep it. Although, even those that de-worm them still haven't had much success

Sorry I can't really add anything positive. Definitely keep water parameters darn near perfect - and don't mix any other species in with this seahorse.

Tom

pledosophy · 12/28/2008, 02:32 AM

You sure it's a kelloggi? Fuscus are being captive bred and distributed in the states by a few different breeders. When they are small they look very similar to a kellogi seahorse IMO.

If you can get a very clear close up shot of the seahorse maybe we can help you with an ID.

Dwarfs and Kellogi would also look similar to a newb IMHO.

twist of lime · 12/28/2008, 07:18 AM

I'll try to get a pic after the camera is finished charging. How do you de worm a seahorse?

twist of lime · 12/28/2008, 08:42 AM

Ok here is the photobucket link to the pictures http://s410.photobucket.com/albums/p...e123/?start=40

Just scroll down to see the pictures of the seahorse. The anemones and clownfish have been put into a seprete tank befor I geot the seahorse so don't freakout.

twist of lime · 12/28/2008, 10:01 PM

Does anyone know based on the pics?

inazuma · 12/28/2008, 11:38 PM

Based on what I was looking at in "A Guide to the Indentification of Seahorses", you do NOT have a H. kelloggi.

It looks like H. fuscus to me, but I'd wait for Kevin to chime in to be sure.

Hope that helps...

twist of lime · 12/29/2008, 07:10 AM

I hope it's a fuscus this is my first seahorse and I want it to be a success...even if she isn't I'm not going to give her back to the fish store because they'll probobly will label her fuscus again and this will happen to someone else. I'm going to try. What would be best to have in the medicine cabinate if she goes south? Unfortunently it can't be to expencive because I'm only 12 and can't have a job yet, but I'm going to try my best to take care of her.

Bill Cobb · 12/29/2008, 03:54 PM

I treat my horses with Formalin every water change. You can contact Dan at Seahorse Source, they sell the small bottles and he can answer most questions you may have.

http://www.seahorsesource.com/index.html

twist of lime · 12/31/2008, 01:09 PM

Does anyone else have an opinion on this?

LisaD · 12/31/2008, 05:38 PM

I can't really tell if it is fuscus, kellogi or a black reidi. I would not treat if the seahorse is eating and is not thin. feed it, keep the water quality good, and re-evaluate if it seems in poor health. you can safely treat for internal parasites with PraziPro.

Bill, I have never heard of treating adult seahorses with formalin between water changes if they are healthy. why do you do this? is it only for dwarf seahorses, or do you do this on large ones as well?

12/27/2008, 09:25 PM	#1
twist of lime Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GA Posts: 97	The lfs said it was a fuscus seahorse... First of all I have to say this is my first seahorse and I made a stupid mistake. On Friday I was in a lfs and they had what they said and what looked like a fuscus seahorse. I have been planning to get my first dwarf seahorses for my 5 month old 30g and the fish store finaly had the kind I wanted, atleast thats what they said and I thought. She was eating well and looked healthy so I bought her. Well I got her drip acclimated I noticed that she was looking more like a juvinille kellogii seahorse. I gooled and looked closely at the pictures and her and came to the conclusion she is a kellogii. I've heard there has been almost no longterm succsess keeping them. Is there anything I can do to help increase her chances. She is doing very well sofar and eating like a champ. Any advice would help. Thanks, Diane

12/27/2008, 09:42 PM	#2
Bill Cobb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: White Plains, MD Posts: 136	I've been keeping and rearing dwarfs for year and a half, and Erectus for 6mos. now. If she's eating then that's half the battle right there. Keeping them fed and good water has been my success. __________________ Bill Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, 29g plumbed w/ 20g, 2 - 5g seahorse tanks, 2 micro algae reactors, 3 brine shrimp reactors, 4 - 1g rotifer tanks, 55g display plumbed w/55g refugium.

12/28/2008, 02:32 AM	#4
pledosophy Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Beaverton Posts: 5,290	You sure it's a kelloggi? Fuscus are being captive bred and distributed in the states by a few different breeders. When they are small they look very similar to a kellogi seahorse IMO. If you can get a very clear close up shot of the seahorse maybe we can help you with an ID. Dwarfs and Kellogi would also look similar to a newb IMHO. __________________ 120g mixed reef 90g QT

12/29/2008, 03:54 PM	#10
Bill Cobb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: White Plains, MD Posts: 136	I treat my horses with Formalin every water change. You can contact Dan at Seahorse Source, they sell the small bottles and he can answer most questions you may have. http://www.seahorsesource.com/index.html __________________ Bill Current Tank Info: 29g BioCube, 29g plumbed w/ 20g, 2 - 5g seahorse tanks, 2 micro algae reactors, 3 brine shrimp reactors, 4 - 1g rotifer tanks, 55g display plumbed w/55g refugium.

12/31/2008, 05:38 PM	#12
LisaD That's not a salmon Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: central North Carolina Posts: 6,986	I can't really tell if it is fuscus, kellogi or a black reidi. I would not treat if the seahorse is eating and is not thin. feed it, keep the water quality good, and re-evaluate if it seems in poor health. you can safely treat for internal parasites with PraziPro. Bill, I have never heard of treating adult seahorses with formalin between water changes if they are healthy. why do you do this? is it only for dwarf seahorses, or do you do this on large ones as well? __________________ Keeping saltwater tanks since the late '70s Current Tank Info: tankless at the moment

12/27/2008, 10:52 PM	#3
ReefNutPA Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Pottsville, PA Posts: 852	Personally, if the LFS misrepresented what they were selling I would try using that as a reason to return the seahorse. There are very, very few sucess stories with Kelloggi. Most seem to waste away even though they eat frozen foods well. I would definitely de-worm the seahorse if you are forced to keep it. Although, even those that de-worm them still haven't had much success Sorry I can't really add anything positive. Definitely keep water parameters darn near perfect - and don't mix any other species in with this seahorse. Tom

12/28/2008, 07:18 AM	#5
twist of lime Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GA Posts: 97	I'll try to get a pic after the camera is finished charging. How do you de worm a seahorse?

12/28/2008, 08:42 AM	#6
twist of lime Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GA Posts: 97	Ok here is the photobucket link to the pictures http://s410.photobucket.com/albums/p...e123/?start=40 Just scroll down to see the pictures of the seahorse. The anemones and clownfish have been put into a seprete tank befor I geot the seahorse so don't freakout.

12/28/2008, 10:01 PM	#7
twist of lime Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GA Posts: 97	Does anyone know based on the pics?

12/28/2008, 11:38 PM	#8
inazuma Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 39	Based on what I was looking at in "A Guide to the Indentification of Seahorses", you do NOT have a H. kelloggi. It looks like H. fuscus to me, but I'd wait for Kevin to chime in to be sure. Hope that helps...

12/29/2008, 07:10 AM	#9
twist of lime Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GA Posts: 97	I hope it's a fuscus this is my first seahorse and I want it to be a success...even if she isn't I'm not going to give her back to the fish store because they'll probobly will label her fuscus again and this will happen to someone else. I'm going to try. What would be best to have in the medicine cabinate if she goes south? Unfortunently it can't be to expencive because I'm only 12 and can't have a job yet, but I'm going to try my best to take care of her.

12/31/2008, 01:09 PM	#11
twist of lime Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: GA Posts: 97	Does anyone else have an opinion on this?