New tank setup. What would you do differently?

dsustko · 12/23/2013, 08:49 PM

Here is my plan for my new tank setup. Anything you would do differently?

100 Gallon DSA (Stand + Canopy) - $900
Oceanic Sump - $200
2x Ecotech Radion XR30W - $1000
2x Vortech MP10 Wireless - $560
2x Eheim Jager - $60
ASM G3 - $330
Apex Lite - $350
SpectraPure RO/DI - $260
Plumbing - $80
90Lbs Dry Rock - $360
60Lbs Live Sand - $60
Miscellaneous - $100
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Total - $4,260

GhostCon1 · 12/23/2013, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsustko

Here is my plan for my new tank setup. Anything you would do differently?

100 Gallon DSA (Stand + Canopy) - $900
Oceanic Sump - $200
2x Ecotech Radion XR30W - $1000
2x Vortech MP10 Wireless - $560 you'll want mp 40s if you are keeping stony corals
2x Eheim Jager - $60 bigger wattage, use just one. More room.
ASM G3 - $330
Apex Lite - $350
SpectraPure RO/DI - $260
Plumbing - $80
90Lbs Dry Rock - $360
60Lbs Live Sand - $60
Miscellaneous - $100
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Total - $4,260

schatzi · 12/23/2013, 10:18 PM

You want two heaters, in case one fails. A small investment for some insurance.

rfgonzo · 12/23/2013, 10:35 PM

What I would do different is go with MH or T5 not LED, and Apex system over the apex lite and a bit more rock and sand. all else looks good.

schatzi · 12/23/2013, 11:06 PM

LED's are pretty proven at this point. Typically no ongoing maintenance costs, no bulb purchases and probably half the electricity usage. If you're already setup with MH or T5 it's expensive to switch, but just starting up is a great time to take advantage of new technology.

MARINECRITTERS · 12/23/2013, 11:15 PM

I use LED lights, love them.

rfgonzo · 12/23/2013, 11:19 PM

I'm old school, Hell I still have VHO's

Just not a fan of LED I don't like my coral

das75 · 12/23/2013, 11:36 PM

Not sure what DSA uses for a overflow system but I'd be putting a lot of thought into it

Rarend99 · 12/24/2013, 12:22 AM

As said before I would
Use two MP40Wes
Use a full apex
And for lighting I would choose the ATI T5 LED hybrid

Rarend99 · 12/24/2013, 12:23 AM

And an Ehiem 1262 return pump for sure

BlindZide · 12/24/2013, 05:30 AM

I would do Jebao over MP anything. Cost difference for performance is pretty steep.
Keep 2 heaters, can make things easier on you.
I would do a T5/LED hybrid

NTP66 · 12/24/2013, 06:16 AM

I third the MP40wES'. They give you much more flexibility in a tank that large. Though, you probably should have bought them a month ago when they were 20% off.

Bpb · 12/24/2013, 12:55 PM

Radions are fine, I'd personally either go with kessils or metal halides depending on your intended stock.

I'll assume you're gonna include stuff like test kits, wide variety of foods, buckets, water storage containers, refractometer, extra powerheads for mixing, ect. As far as your main equipment that stuff all looks great. I'd personally start with dry rock and sand, seeded with the smallest bit of live rock rubble, and live sand from a tank you absolutely trust. Pests may make their way eventually but it's best to start with none. Then I'd just seed with a couple pod pack varieties and bacteria supplements. Eventually you'll have a complex micro fauna population, but i personally would go slow and start dry just to limit headaches. I'm still chasing down aiptasia and bits of pest macro algae that snuck in on my live rock...2 years ago.

Reefmedic79 · 12/24/2013, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsustko

Here is my plan for my new tank setup. Anything you would do differently?

100 Gallon DSA (Stand + Canopy) - $900
Oceanic Sump - $200 Save $$$, build your own
2x Ecotech Radion XR30W - $1000
2x Vortech MP10 Wireless - $560 Just me, at minimum I would go with MP40s on each side, if $$$ was no issue, I'd put an MP10 or 2 on the back pain of glass as well. The WP have a lot of good reviews as a comparable pump, but I personally don't like how big they are.
2x Eheim Jager - $60
ASM G3 - $330ASM are great skimmers, but IMO, there are cheaper options that are just as good, Reef Octopus is what I use.
Apex Lite - $350 Get the full Apex
SpectraPure RO/DI - $260
Plumbing - $80
90Lbs Dry Rock - $360I prefer dry rock, but I would add or replace 10lbs with some LR for additional "seeding"
60Lbs Live Sand - $60
Miscellaneous - $100

Return pump? Internal I'd suggest an Eheim 1262, external ReeFlo
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Total - $4,260

Arnel0387 · 12/24/2013, 05:39 PM

It seems like money is no longer an issue so I would go with two mp40s and full apex as well. If you go with BRS dry rocks like Pukani, you won't need 90lbs. Make sure you do a muriatic acid bath on your rocks! Check out Reef Octopus skimmers, I'd go with the SRO-XP2000int, that's what I have in my 100gallons, heavily stocked. Get two 300watts heaters. Don't forget a refractometer, test kits (salifert or red sea), and ATO (I suggest a Tunze Osmolator 3155). And expect to pay more than $100 for your miscellaneous expenses (tools, ATO reservoirs, rodi containers, etc.)

HTH

thegrun · 12/24/2013, 06:13 PM

You will need a return pump- Eheim 1162. I would also vote for the MP 40s over the MP 10s.

Arnel0387 · 12/25/2013, 05:14 PM

Go for the Eheim 1262 return pump

12/23/2013, 08:49 PM	#1
dsustko Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 30	New tank setup. What would you do differently? Here is my plan for my new tank setup. Anything you would do differently? 100 Gallon DSA (Stand + Canopy) - $900 Oceanic Sump - $200 2x Ecotech Radion XR30W - $1000 2x Vortech MP10 Wireless - $560 2x Eheim Jager - $60 ASM G3 - $330 Apex Lite - $350 SpectraPure RO/DI - $260 Plumbing - $80 90Lbs Dry Rock - $360 60Lbs Live Sand - $60 Miscellaneous - $100 ---------------------------------- Total - $4,260

12/23/2013, 10:18 PM	#3
schatzi Professional amateur Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: JC, MO Posts: 513	You want two heaters, in case one fails. A small investment for some insurance. __________________ 125g Mixed Reef, 46g predator tank, 25g fuge, 39g frag/fuge, 70g sump, 29g clown tank.

12/23/2013, 11:06 PM	#5
schatzi Professional amateur Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: JC, MO Posts: 513	LED's are pretty proven at this point. Typically no ongoing maintenance costs, no bulb purchases and probably half the electricity usage. If you're already setup with MH or T5 it's expensive to switch, but just starting up is a great time to take advantage of new technology. __________________ 125g Mixed Reef, 46g predator tank, 25g fuge, 39g frag/fuge, 70g sump, 29g clown tank.

12/23/2013, 11:15 PM	#6
MARINECRITTERS Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,525	I use LED lights, love them. __________________ MarineCritters, life in the sea is superb Current Tank Info: 91 Gallon Reef

12/23/2013, 11:36 PM	#8
das75 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmonton AB Posts: 2,269	Not sure what DSA uses for a overflow system but I'd be putting a lot of thought into it __________________ . Current Tank Info: 145g Starfire display (mixed reef) w/75g basement sump & 20g refugium, Barracuda return, Dart w/OM 4way CL, AI Hydras and Director.

12/23/2013, 10:35 PM	#4
rfgonzo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,280	What I would do different is go with MH or T5 not LED, and Apex system over the apex lite and a bit more rock and sand. all else looks good.

12/23/2013, 11:19 PM	#7
rfgonzo Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,280	I'm old school, Hell I still have VHO's Just not a fan of LED I don't like my coral

12/24/2013, 12:22 AM	#9
Rarend99 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 1,304	As said before I would Use two MP40Wes Use a full apex And for lighting I would choose the ATI T5 LED hybrid __________________ 50 Gallon Rimless Radion PRO 2x Mp10s Apex The Works Current Tank Info: Cadlights Rimless

12/24/2013, 12:23 AM	#10
Rarend99 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 1,304	And an Ehiem 1262 return pump for sure __________________ 50 Gallon Rimless Radion PRO 2x Mp10s Apex The Works Current Tank Info: Cadlights Rimless

12/24/2013, 05:30 AM	#11
BlindZide Registered Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 1,273	I would do Jebao over MP anything. Cost difference for performance is pretty steep. Keep 2 heaters, can make things easier on you. I would do a T5/LED hybrid __________________ ~Trent Biocube 14 Mixed Reef 75G LPS Reef

12/24/2013, 06:16 AM	#12
NTP66 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: PA Posts: 975	I third the MP40wES'. They give you much more flexibility in a tank that large. Though, you probably should have bought them a month ago when they were 20% off. __________________ Nick Current Tank Info: 90g FOWLR, Reef Octopus NWB-150 skimmer, MP40wES x2, Eheim 1260 return, BuildMyLED 20,000k XB LEDs, Apex Jr.

12/24/2013, 12:55 PM	#13
Bpb Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 3,148	Radions are fine, I'd personally either go with kessils or metal halides depending on your intended stock. I'll assume you're gonna include stuff like test kits, wide variety of foods, buckets, water storage containers, refractometer, extra powerheads for mixing, ect. As far as your main equipment that stuff all looks great. I'd personally start with dry rock and sand, seeded with the smallest bit of live rock rubble, and live sand from a tank you absolutely trust. Pests may make their way eventually but it's best to start with none. Then I'd just seed with a couple pod pack varieties and bacteria supplements. Eventually you'll have a complex micro fauna population, but i personally would go slow and start dry just to limit headaches. I'm still chasing down aiptasia and bits of pest macro algae that snuck in on my live rock...2 years ago.

12/24/2013, 05:39 PM	#15
Arnel0387 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 997	It seems like money is no longer an issue so I would go with two mp40s and full apex as well. If you go with BRS dry rocks like Pukani, you won't need 90lbs. Make sure you do a muriatic acid bath on your rocks! Check out Reef Octopus skimmers, I'd go with the SRO-XP2000int, that's what I have in my 100gallons, heavily stocked. Get two 300watts heaters. Don't forget a refractometer, test kits (salifert or red sea), and ATO (I suggest a Tunze Osmolator 3155). And expect to pay more than $100 for your miscellaneous expenses (tools, ATO reservoirs, rodi containers, etc.) HTH __________________ Minimalist, barebottom, SPS dominated dream tank coming soon! My reefing philosophy: SPS = Stability. Patience. Simplicity.

12/24/2013, 06:13 PM	#16
thegrun Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Garden Grove, Ca Posts: 17,023	You will need a return pump- Eheim 1162. I would also vote for the MP 40s over the MP 10s.

12/25/2013, 05:14 PM	#17
Arnel0387 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 997	Go for the Eheim 1262 return pump __________________ Minimalist, barebottom, SPS dominated dream tank coming soon! My reefing philosophy: SPS = Stability. Patience. Simplicity.