hi nitrates, low phosphates and good ph

JeffyT · 12/14/2014, 09:09 PM

Hi RC,

Was wondering what I should do for high nitrates after a water change?

Should i give it a few days and then do another water change?

I was going to just do another water change tomorrow.

inetmug · 12/14/2014, 09:46 PM

I have a bit of a battle in this area going on now...

Lots of options... water changes, sulfur reactors, vodka reactors, dosing, marine pure blocks, chaeto algae, and skimming, and water flow, detritus removal/suspension via flow and sump cleaning, sock/filter-pad maintenance, and stuff like nitrate removal media and bacterial solutions. Lots of these ways take months to work.

Assume you have a decent skimmer up and working?

I would suggest that you do nothing for phosphate removal like GFO for some time as some of these methods require a Po4:nitrate balance to work properly.

JoelA7 · 12/14/2014, 09:50 PM

Values? RODI? Etc.

inetmug · 12/14/2014, 09:56 PM

Oh yeah, feeding reduction.... key component.

And as pointed out, RODI with Zero TDS...

xcdennisx · 12/14/2014, 10:09 PM

how long has the tank been up for?

gone fishin · 12/14/2014, 10:20 PM

What is High? WC would be a good way to reduce them. But, the more important question is why are they high.

JeffyT · 12/15/2014, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone fishin

What is High? WC would be a good way to reduce them. But, the more important question is why are they high.

Only reading I have high is Nitrate. Im sitting at 0.5? I'm using the Salifert test kit for Nitrates. My phosphates is at 0 according to the color chart from API test kit, and my PH is sitting at 8.4 API test kit as well.

I did have a death in the tank that I haven't found the body for and that was my ruby dragonette.

I rearranged my rock today and still couldnt find the body.

I use chemipure ELITE and Purigen for media filter as well as filter floss. And I'm running a Tunze 9001 protein skimmer. I stopped feeding everyday. And I stopped feeding pellets too. So now I just defrost a cube of Hikari frozen mysis and then wet it with some garlic gaurd and it goes into my tank.

Besides the two clowns, i have a hippo tang and a sunburst anthias in my tank for fish and 4 anemones.

I'm debating to get a desktop reactor like the Innovative Marine Mini Max and run GFO in it to help with the bioload.

A HOB or intank DIY CPR refugium is also something I've considered. Some cheato to help?

gone fishin · 12/15/2014, 02:19 AM

If you have 0.5ppm of nitrate then you have nothing wrong. The fish loss more than likely was taken care of by your CUC.

JeffyT · 12/15/2014, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gone fishin

If you have 0.5ppm of nitrate then you have nothing wrong. The fish loss more than likely was taken care of by your CUC.

oh okay. i thought it was kind of high. but i guess my nems just need to reacclimate to the water change?

theyre just not poofing out as much since i did the change.

mcgyvr · 12/15/2014, 06:35 AM

0.5ppm?... high? ha ha.. Is this April fools day?

Thats ultra low

inetmug · 12/15/2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mcgyvr

0.5ppm?... high? ha ha.. Is this April fools day?

Thats ultra low

yeah no kidding....

mine is 30-40PPM on API... now that is high...

m0nkie · 12/15/2014, 10:08 AM

gfo does not help bioload. If you dont hsve phosphate, gfo wont do anything. Only live rocks or bio balls can help. And you are way over stocked already with that blue tang.

Zer0. · 12/15/2014, 10:18 AM

blue hippo in a 30 gal?

OnceTrueFalseBr · 12/15/2014, 10:20 AM

lol 0.5 is not high...

rishu_pepper · 12/15/2014, 10:41 AM

Calling the tang police.

Seriously though, I'd shudder to see my hippo in my 30g. Please reconsider.

JeffyT · 12/16/2014, 12:08 AM

sorry thought my nitrates needed to be at zero. excuse me for asking this question? obviously i posted in the new to the hobby section. don't need the snarky comments. just positive feed back please.

im gonna move the tang to a bigger tank. thank you tang police. i hope i never see any of you do anything out of the ordinary with your reef tanks. imma build a wall so you can bang your faces in too.

12/14/2014, 09:09 PM	#1
JeffyT Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 263	hi nitrates, low phosphates and good ph Hi RC, Was wondering what I should do for high nitrates after a water change? Should i give it a few days and then do another water change? I was going to just do another water change tomorrow. __________________ 30g IM Nuvo - Retired 08/2012-04/2016 It was a very expensive lesson :P Current Project: 20gL JBJ AIO Frag Tank \| Shallow Reef Livestock : 3 Clown Fish, Rose BTA, Flame Shrimp Current Tank Info: 20gL JBJ Shallow Reef

12/14/2014, 09:46 PM	#2
inetmug Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 693	I have a bit of a battle in this area going on now... Lots of options... water changes, sulfur reactors, vodka reactors, dosing, marine pure blocks, chaeto algae, and skimming, and water flow, detritus removal/suspension via flow and sump cleaning, sock/filter-pad maintenance, and stuff like nitrate removal media and bacterial solutions. Lots of these ways take months to work. Assume you have a decent skimmer up and working? I would suggest that you do nothing for phosphate removal like GFO for some time as some of these methods require a Po4:nitrate balance to work properly. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 250G Acrylic, 40G sump, Dolphin Amp Master 4750, Predator Skimmer, BuildMyLed 20k XB, , ATO,

12/14/2014, 09:50 PM	#3
JoelA7 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Brookline, MA Posts: 1,056	Values? RODI? Etc. __________________ New 48x24x26.25 w Precision Marine R30 sump, Vertex Omega 150 skimmer, 2@Vertex 1.5L reactors for carbon & phosban, GEO Ca reactor w Aquarium Plants regulator. 2 MP40's 2@Radions. #120 live rock & #12

12/14/2014, 09:56 PM	#4
inetmug Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 693	Oh yeah, feeding reduction.... key component. And as pointed out, RODI with Zero TDS... __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 250G Acrylic, 40G sump, Dolphin Amp Master 4750, Predator Skimmer, BuildMyLed 20k XB, , ATO,

12/14/2014, 10:20 PM	#6
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	What is High? WC would be a good way to reduce them. But, the more important question is why are they high. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

12/14/2014, 10:09 PM	#5
xcdennisx Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 50	how long has the tank been up for?

12/15/2014, 02:19 AM	#8
gone fishin Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wyocena Wi Posts: 6,936	If you have 0.5ppm of nitrate then you have nothing wrong. The fish loss more than likely was taken care of by your CUC. __________________ Tony Current Tank Info: 180gal DT, BM NAC77 skimmer,3 Maxspect razors, Maxspect Gyre 150, 30g QT

12/15/2014, 06:35 AM	#10
mcgyvr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 20,050	0.5ppm?... high? ha ha.. Is this April fools day? Thats ultra low

12/15/2014, 10:08 AM	#12
m0nkie Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: LA Posts: 6,264	gfo does not help bioload. If you dont hsve phosphate, gfo wont do anything. Only live rocks or bio balls can help. And you are way over stocked already with that blue tang. __________________ 560gal in the making

12/15/2014, 10:18 AM	#13
Zer0. Registered Member Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 479	blue hippo in a 30 gal?

12/15/2014, 10:20 AM	#14
OnceTrueFalseBr Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: New York City Posts: 355	lol 0.5 is not high...

12/15/2014, 10:41 AM	#15
rishu_pepper Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 310	Calling the tang police. Seriously though, I'd shudder to see my hippo in my 30g. Please reconsider.

12/16/2014, 12:08 AM	#16
JeffyT Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 263	sorry thought my nitrates needed to be at zero. excuse me for asking this question? obviously i posted in the new to the hobby section. don't need the snarky comments. just positive feed back please. im gonna move the tang to a bigger tank. thank you tang police. i hope i never see any of you do anything out of the ordinary with your reef tanks. imma build a wall so you can bang your faces in too. __________________ 30g IM Nuvo - Retired 08/2012-04/2016 It was a very expensive lesson :P Current Project: 20gL JBJ AIO Frag Tank \| Shallow Reef Livestock : 3 Clown Fish, Rose BTA, Flame Shrimp Current Tank Info: 20gL JBJ Shallow Reef