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Thor2j · 02/22/2017, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

Do you know how much more powerful each puck in a 700 is versus a 360? I would be interested in that information. I know about the different diffuser on the 700, but I don't know the actual light output difference.

Thx for your help.

If you do a search for my posts you will find it. I did full tests when I switched. It was something like 39% on 700 was the same PAR as 65% on 2 360s. The deeper u went the worse it got for the 360s.

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ComforablyNumb · 02/22/2017, 09:05 AM

Thanks. Are the 700 pucks more than 90 watts each?

mako61 · 02/22/2017, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

Not sure what that would accomplish. Daisy chaining will make all the lights behave the same of course. If you want to have a single wire from the Kessil controller to the lights, you will be limited to two lights (or sets of lights) as the controller has only two separate outputs. But each output can be daisy chained separately.

As I said, I'm not sure what your goal is by having them in parallel. Each light requires its own separate power source.

I wanted to run a single wire out to each light instead of 2. ( excluding power) If its a simply 2 0-10v inputs i would think you could Y them before you go out to the light. Im guessing the in/out are just connected together inside the light for convenance.

I hated all the wires hanging off the gooseneck, i hadnt seen the newer mounts. With the newer mounts an extra wire isnt as big of a deal. Also i think i may go with the 700 anyway. ( even fewer wires lol )

mako61 · 02/22/2017, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

Do you know how much more powerful each puck in a 700 is versus a 360? I would be interested in that information. I know about the different diffuser on the 700, but I don't know the actual light output difference.

Thx for your help.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0i1FJ_CyZ4

Thats a video showing a close up of all the led matrixes. If that helps. The 700 looks different to me, not just the lens.

burgerchow1 · 02/28/2017, 11:05 AM

Hi. Setting up a 6 ft 210 and am going to use 3 A360W tuna blues. What's the best and least expensive way to control them? Can I daisy chain them?
I don't have an apex so considering purchasing the kessil controller.

ComforablyNumb · 02/28/2017, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by burgerchow1

What's the best and least expensive way to control them?

Kessil controller

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Originally Posted by burgerchow1

Can I daisy chain them?

Yes, and you can control two sets separately also

Thor2j · 02/28/2017, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by burgerchow1

Hi. Setting up a 6 ft 210 and am going to use 3 A360W tuna blues. What's the best and least expensive way to control them? Can I daisy chain them?
I don't have an apex so considering purchasing the kessil controller.

You're gonna have a lot of shadowing. I had 4 on a 59" and that was about right for a mixed tank.

I would buy a controller and daisy chain them with 1/8" mini jack cables.

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burgerchow1 · 02/28/2017, 09:08 PM

Damn

I just found out that my original 1st gen. A360 W tuna blue doesn't work with any controllers and can't be daisy chained. There aren't any plugs in them. ( Yep, I 've had Kessil since they first came out.)

I will have to buy all newer ones for them to be controlled.

vhuang168 · 02/28/2017, 10:07 PM

You mean A350s?

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burgerchow1 · 02/28/2017, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by vhuang168

You mean A350s?

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yes , you are correct. I forgot that my 1st gen is A350 tuna blue

DEadsCSU · 03/01/2017, 04:31 PM

I'm getting back into the hobby and have seen the AP700 in action on a few tanks. I'm very impressed with the controllability and the shimmer of the unit. Getting a 150 gallon tank 48" long x 24" wide x 30" tall. Should one AP700 be enough for most corals and a few SPS near the surface of the water? Where's the best place to find a good deal on a used one or a discounted new one? Thanks!!
Dave

vhuang168 · 03/01/2017, 04:55 PM

Sps need to be placed between the pucks for a more even spread.

At 24" wide n 30" deep, 1 AP700 may not be ideal. Might need to supplement.

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ycnibrc · 03/02/2017, 01:02 AM

here is my V8 Kessil light rack

truepercs · 03/02/2017, 04:49 PM

I just bought an Apex and ordered the RJ45 to 3.5mm cable to ramp my Kessil. My application will require a much longer cord. Does anyone know if I can use a standard 3.5 female to male connector to accommodate the length I will require?

Thanks

ycnibrc · 03/02/2017, 04:55 PM

Any 3.5mm will work. I bought 1 from frys electronic

ERIC85854 · 03/02/2017, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by truepercs

I just bought an Apex and ordered the RJ45 to 3.5mm cable to ramp my Kessil. My application will require a much longer cord. Does anyone know if I can use a standard 3.5 female to male connector to accommodate the length I will require?

Thanks

Has to be a stereo plug

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truepercs · 03/02/2017, 05:11 PM

Great, more questions... I have manually set my intensity on the Kessil up to this point. Once hooked up is there any way to determine the intensity setting of the manual set up? If possible I would like to keep the intensity the same, and gradually increase from where there are now. I have no idea on what intensity it is actually set at via knob.

Once hooked up do the knobs need to be turned in any specific position or are the positions overridden and have no impact?

Thanks,

When

ERIC85854 · 03/02/2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by truepercs

Great, more questions... I have manually set my intensity on the Kessil up to this point. Once hooked up is there any way to determine the intensity setting of the manual set up? If possible I would like to keep the intensity the same, and gradually increase from where there are now. I have no idea on what intensity it is actually set at via knob.

Once hooked up do the knobs need to be turned in any specific position or are the positions overridden and have no impact?

Thanks,

When

Use a PAR meter or guess. The knobs don't do anything when the control cables are connected.

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truepercs · 03/02/2017, 05:20 PM

Looks like I will be guessing

Guess the intensity game...

Thanks for the responses!

Dealseer · 03/02/2017, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ycnibrc

Any 3.5mm will work. I bought 1 from frys electronic

This is completely false. The cable must be stereo.

ERIC85854 · 03/02/2017, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by truepercs

Looks like I will be guessing

Guess the intensity game...

Thanks for the responses!

It might be easier to tell if you turn the color all the way up and then switch back and forth between the knobs and control cable until they appear to be the same intensity.

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pelphrey · 03/03/2017, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by truepercs

I just bought an Apex and ordered the RJ45 to 3.5mm cable to ramp my Kessil. My application will require a much longer cord. Does anyone know if I can use a standard 3.5 female to male connector to accommodate the length I will require?

Thanks

I've always bought my 3.5mm cables off ebay (Cheap). I am using the A Series mounts and have a light running off my primary light. I am using a female to male 3.5mm cheap cable I got off the auction site to connect both of the lights for added lenght. No issues with it at all.

truepercs · 03/05/2017, 03:39 PM

I have the Apex wire and an an extension... I have set up the profiles following the BRS videos. I figured I could tweak as I go along in terms of color and intensity.

One thing that I noticed running the lights this way is that I am getting a deviation of light throughout the day. Not specifically ramping as I thought they would perform,(ramp up of intensity & from blue to white, etc...) but rather like a cloud effect at times? The aquarium is not on its own circuit, could another item such as the heater or an appliance effect the current which causes the light to dim and later brighten?

I did not experience anything like this when the lights were set via knobs manually.

Thanks,

-Ed

truepercs · 03/05/2017, 05:10 PM

I set the intensity to a constant 70% and left only the color to ramp, it appears that it is no longer changing like temporary cloud coverage.

Looks like I'll need to look over my settings...

truepercs · 03/05/2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pelphrey

I've always bought my 3.5mm cables off ebay (Cheap). I am using the A Series mounts and have a light running off my primary light. I am using a female to male 3.5mm cheap cable I got off the auction site to connect both of the lights for added lenght. No issues with it at all.

Locally they only had 6' (both male ends)I ended up ordering online since I needed at least 14' and they had the female to male connection. It was half the price and a much better quality cable. I had to wait 2 days, but it was the better choice.

02/28/2017, 11:05 AM	#2480
burgerchow1 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: vancouver bc canada Posts: 24	A360 programming Hi. Setting up a 6 ft 210 and am going to use 3 A360W tuna blues. What's the best and least expensive way to control them? Can I daisy chain them? I don't have an apex so considering purchasing the kessil controller.

02/28/2017, 10:07 PM	#2484
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	You mean A350s? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

03/01/2017, 04:55 PM	#2487
vhuang168 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,136	Sps need to be placed between the pucks for a more even spread. At 24" wide n 30" deep, 1 AP700 may not be ideal. Might need to supplement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Vincent 40g custom AIO --> DSA190Pro

03/02/2017, 01:02 AM	#2488
ycnibrc STAG HORN DOMINATE REEF Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irvine, California Posts: 3,348	here is my V8 Kessil light rack __________________ SDR STAGHORN DOMINATE REEF Feature Reef of November 2019 GHL TOTM FEB 2020 ABC corals Current Tank Info: 360g Peninsula sps

03/02/2017, 04:49 PM	#2489
truepercs Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MI Posts: 189	I just bought an Apex and ordered the RJ45 to 3.5mm cable to ramp my Kessil. My application will require a much longer cord. Does anyone know if I can use a standard 3.5 female to male connector to accommodate the length I will require? Thanks __________________ Truepercs...

02/22/2017, 09:05 AM	#2477
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	Thanks. Are the 700 pucks more than 90 watts each?

02/28/2017, 09:08 PM	#2483
burgerchow1 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: vancouver bc canada Posts: 24	Damn I just found out that my original 1st gen. A360 W tuna blue doesn't work with any controllers and can't be daisy chained. There aren't any plugs in them. ( Yep, I 've had Kessil since they first came out.) I will have to buy all newer ones for them to be controlled.

03/01/2017, 04:31 PM	#2486
DEadsCSU Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Loveland, CO Posts: 56	I'm getting back into the hobby and have seen the AP700 in action on a few tanks. I'm very impressed with the controllability and the shimmer of the unit. Getting a 150 gallon tank 48" long x 24" wide x 30" tall. Should one AP700 be enough for most corals and a few SPS near the surface of the water? Where's the best place to find a good deal on a used one or a discounted new one? Thanks!! Dave

03/02/2017, 04:55 PM	#2490
ycnibrc STAG HORN DOMINATE REEF Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Irvine, California Posts: 3,348	Any 3.5mm will work. I bought 1 from frys electronic __________________ SDR STAGHORN DOMINATE REEF Feature Reef of November 2019 GHL TOTM FEB 2020 ABC corals Current Tank Info: 360g Peninsula sps

03/02/2017, 05:11 PM	#2492
truepercs Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MI Posts: 189	Great, more questions... I have manually set my intensity on the Kessil up to this point. Once hooked up is there any way to determine the intensity setting of the manual set up? If possible I would like to keep the intensity the same, and gradually increase from where there are now. I have no idea on what intensity it is actually set at via knob. Once hooked up do the knobs need to be turned in any specific position or are the positions overridden and have no impact? Thanks, When __________________ Truepercs...

03/02/2017, 05:20 PM	#2494
truepercs Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MI Posts: 189	Looks like I will be guessing Guess the intensity game... Thanks for the responses! __________________ Truepercs...

03/05/2017, 03:39 PM	#2498
truepercs Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MI Posts: 189	I have the Apex wire and an an extension... I have set up the profiles following the BRS videos. I figured I could tweak as I go along in terms of color and intensity. One thing that I noticed running the lights this way is that I am getting a deviation of light throughout the day. Not specifically ramping as I thought they would perform,(ramp up of intensity & from blue to white, etc...) but rather like a cloud effect at times? The aquarium is not on its own circuit, could another item such as the heater or an appliance effect the current which causes the light to dim and later brighten? I did not experience anything like this when the lights were set via knobs manually. Thanks, -Ed __________________ Truepercs...

03/05/2017, 05:10 PM	#2499
truepercs Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: MI Posts: 189	I set the intensity to a constant 70% and left only the color to ramp, it appears that it is no longer changing like temporary cloud coverage. Looks like I'll need to look over my settings... __________________ Truepercs...