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Unread 11/13/2010, 11:30 PM   #2626
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capn_hylinur- would it be alright if they were a mated pair?
If they are already a mated pair when you purchase them they should be okay.


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1 Clown Goby in a 200 Gal, Thats it.
Isn't that overstocking a bit


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I've asked this question in a different thread a week or so ago never got a response.

100 gallon 2-3" of cc substrate with a 30 gallon sump and a emperor angel (5-6"), red coris wrasse (7-8")and 2 adult clowns, 1 baby clown, M.Dor anemone, lots of xenia and some sort of button polyp zoa colony.

125 gallon with 4-5" of live sand (sugar sized or smaller argonite I think) a 150 gallon sump, powder blue tang, green chromi, 2 adult clownfish, gorgonia (I think), couple of brown mushroom looking thingies.

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I don't think the angel and the wrasse have enough room in the 100 gallon, its not very long, maybe 4'. The 125 is 6' long. I'd like to give one or both more swimming space in the 125. The 125 is peninsula style and pretty "open", the 125 is rock piled up against the back wall style... former owner said the angel and wrasse both really need place to hide to feel safe.

Eventually I'll want some corals.

Would you recommend shuffling my stock? How so?

I have no CUC, I'm thinking about getting a the tiger pistol / yellow watchman goby for each tank as suggested. Any other suggestions? I'm not a fan of snails, reefers I know feel like its just pouring money down the drain.
i love my snails. i put 10 trochus in my tank when i started it. they are great cleaners, fairly quick, dont get much bigger than a nickle, and none have died. also there are over 50 baby trochus snails in my tank now.

as for the angel yes, you should definately move the emperor to the 6' 125g tank. they get huge and need lots of space. especially if he is already 5-6 inches


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Unread 11/13/2010, 11:36 PM   #2629
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Starting to stock my reef tank and looking for advice/suggestions! Tank has been running for a couple months now.

Display is 200 gallon (7ft x 2ft x 2ft) with 55 gallon sump/refugium. I have 200 lbs of rock, 160+ lbs of sand. Running an external Super Reef Octopus xp3000 skimmer. Koralia Evo 2 x 1400 and 2 x 1050. Return pump is Mag 18. If you need more details on any parts of the system let me know.

Current livestock:
8 Turbo snails (might get rid of a few)
40 Nassarius
100+ Dwarf cerinth
25 Nerite snails
2 Peppermint Shrimp
2 ocellaris clowns
1 firefish

Possible additions:
another firefish
yellow watchman goby
3-5 green chromis
flame angelfish
blue tang
naso blonde tang
powder blue tang
blue jaw trigger (pair?)
mandarin gobies (much later...waiting for the pods!)
A large Angel - blue girdled or emperor?
Cleaner shrimp (how many?)

Any advice on the above fish and order that they should be added would be great. Are there any that I should eliminate or any other fish I should think about adding? Thanks in advance!
good list.
I would add the another tang--yellow, purple, blue or sailfin
The powder blue and yellow if you go with that should be added last


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I have a 270 gallon tank 72x36x24, 80 gal sump. Skimmer is octopus 6000 super reef. I also have around 150# of LR some in the display and some in the sump and refugium.

Current fish

1 Blonde Naso
1Yellow tang
pair of Clarki clowns
13 green chromis
4 red sea anthias
1 yellow clown gobie

I was thinking of adding a convict tang, a powder blue tang, and a yellow eye cole tang. I feel like I may be pushing it but I was looking for some opinions. If I had to pick one it would be the convict. I appreciate the feedback.
You would not be pushing the limit at all by having 5 tangs in a 270 gal--go for it


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125 g with a 75g made into a sump with a fuge/chetto
almost a year old tank
lot of live rock well over 125lbs with sand 1 to 3 inches in some area

diamand goby ( sand shifter)
2-3 green chromis
pair of black and white clowns
5" powder blue tang
5" purple tank they came from same tank many years together

i would like to add more

madrian goby?
coral beauty angel? 4' atleast
or some nice size wrasses not sure whats reef safe..

thanks for any feed back
After a year you should be producing enough copopods to support a mandarine
You might find it difficult to find a coral beauty that is more then 4 inches in size but it would also be a good addition
A fairy wrasse would be a nice wrasse to add


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I have a 75 gallon 15 year tank with few corals. Run a 40 gallon sump with Cheato. Current inhabitants (in approximate order they were added):
- 1 Blue finned damsel (4 inches)
- 1 percula Clown (3.5 inches)
- 1 yellow tang (4.5 inches)
- 1 Scooter blenney (2.5 inches)
- 2 emeral crabs(9maybe)
- 1 Lawnmower blenney (4 inches)
- 2 skunk cleaners
- 1 Flame Angel (3 inches)
The clown still annoy the Flame, but the fighting is almost over. Then I added a Copper Banded Butterfly (4 inches) and the tang won't leave her alone. the other fish do I think until the tang chases the CBB into their space.

I have temporarily solved the problem with a piece of egg crate Copper and Flame on one side and everyone else on the other. Of course the blenneys suit themselves.

Am I going to be okay removing the egg crate in a week or so (this has worked for me in the past)? Other comments please. Thanks in advance.
try adding another clown or two and an anemone. It is quite common for lone fish to pick on other fish.
Make sure the cbb is eating or quarantine it till it does--very timid fish and easily can starve because of its timidity


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Unread 11/14/2010, 08:54 AM   #2633
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capn_hylinur, Thanks for your time.


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Unread 11/14/2010, 09:01 AM   #2634
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70 gallon (18" x 36" x 24") with 30 gallon sump and around 100 pounds of live rock. Protein skimmer, GFO, and carbon. Wanting to add either a foxface rabbitfish, one spot rabbitfish, or blue jaw trigger. Mix of LPS and softies along with two clowns, a yellow wrasse, and lawnmower blenny already. If those won't work, any suggestions on medium sized fish that will?


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Thanks capn, I currently have egg crate spliting the tank in half. I made some rock (see numerous thread) and when I add it I plan to rearrange everything. Would you still add the clowns and anome if so at the same time?

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I'm new to this so be easy...I will be adding livestock and just saw this thread so i wanted to give it a try.

Here's what I have

125 gal tank with live rock and sand and sump
2 starfish
alot of blue leg hermits and snails
tiger cucumber
Blue hippo tang
yellow tang
kole tang
purpleback pseudochromis
semi picasso clownfish (the other recently jumped
6 blue chromis
1 anthias (lyretail?..the other two were harassed and killed by pseudo...at least think)
3 cleaner shrimp

Here's what I want to add
1 semi picasso clown
2 mystery wrasses
1 bluespot jawfish
MAYBE 1 sixline wrasse?? not sure if they will be ok with other 2 wrasses..but I will be adding all of these new fish at once.
5 peppermint shrimp to control the aptasia
green emeral crabs?? - i originally had 3 and after about 5 months they all disappeared except for one i found dead under a rock.

I have added a few other fish (not listed above) and they all seemed to be killed by the pseudo. I actually saw him chasing the sixline that I added a couple months ago and cornering a couple of other fish that ended up being crab food at the bottom of my tank.

Let me know what you guys think.

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I'm new to this so be easy...I will be adding livestock and just saw this thread so i wanted to give it a try.

Here's what I have

125 gal tank with live rock and sand and sump
2 starfish
alot of blue leg hermits and snails
tiger cucumber
Blue hippo tang
yellow tang
kole tang
purpleback pseudochromis
semi picasso clownfish (the other recently jumped
6 blue chromis
1 anthias (lyretail?..the other two were harassed and killed by pseudo...at least think)
3 cleaner shrimp

Here's what I want to add
1 semi picasso clown
2 mystery wrasses
1 bluespot jawfish
MAYBE 1 sixline wrasse?? not sure if they will be ok with other 2 wrasses..but I will be adding all of these new fish at once.
5 peppermint shrimp to control the aptasia
green emeral crabs?? - i originally had 3 and after about 5 months they all disappeared except for one i found dead under a rock.

I have added a few other fish (not listed above) and they all seemed to be killed by the pseudo. I actually saw him chasing the sixline that I added a couple months ago and cornering a couple of other fish that ended up being crab food at the bottom of my tank.

Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks

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I would skip the mystery wrasse -- that is if you want to keep your shrimp, they will get eaten by the mystery wrasse.

For the clown -- make sure to get a small one -- to assure it is a male/unsexed male, your existing one is most likely a female.

With your existing pseudochromis, I would pass on both the six line and the bluespot -- see issues.


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I would skip the mystery wrasse -- that is if you want to keep your shrimp, they will get eaten by the mystery wrasse.

For the clown -- make sure to get a small one -- to assure it is a male/unsexed male, your existing one is most likely a female.

With your existing pseudochromis, I would pass on both the six line and the bluespot -- see issues.
Thanks for the response! I guess I left out the fact that I'm getting rid of the pseudochromis before adding any of these. I had my heart set on the mystery wrasses. Is it a definite that they will eat the shrimp?


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Thanks for the response! I guess I left out the fact that I'm getting rid of the pseudochromis before adding any of these. I had my heart set on the mystery wrasses. Is it a definite that they will eat the shrimp?
I might have missed that. How deep is your sandbed? Is your tank covered?

Yeah, it is a matter of "when" and not "if" for them eating the shrimp.


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70 gallon (18" x 36" x 24") with 30 gallon sump and around 100 pounds of live rock. Protein skimmer, GFO, and carbon. Wanting to add either a foxface rabbitfish, one spot rabbitfish, or blue jaw trigger. Mix of LPS and softies along with two clowns, a yellow wrasse, and lawnmower blenny already. If those won't work, any suggestions on medium sized fish that will?
the foxface will be fine with the other fish
The blue jaw trigger is one of the safest triggers as to eating coral
I would not put two rabbit fish in the tank along with the longmower blennie as they will soon eat you out of house and home or is that tank and home


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Thanks capn, I currently have egg crate spliting the tank in half. I made some rock (see numerous thread) and when I add it I plan to rearrange everything. Would you still add the clowns and anome if so at the same time?

Thanks again
I would add the anemone at the same time--its purpose being to keep the clowns away from the fish they were picking on


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70 gallon (18" x 36" x 24") with 30 gallon sump and around 100 pounds of live rock. Protein skimmer, GFO, and carbon. Wanting to add either a foxface rabbitfish, one spot rabbitfish, or blue jaw trigger. Mix of LPS and softies along with two clowns, a yellow wrasse, and lawnmower blenny already. If those won't work, any suggestions on medium sized fish that will?
JMO, I wouldn't add any of those to that sized tank -- 3 feet long just isn't going to give any of those fish enough swimming room.

While they do present some risk, could always consider a dwarf angel or two.


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So after MONTHS (3 and a half to be exact) of cycling, I think I am ready for my first fish..what should I get???

Here are system specs:
125g Seaclear
55g sump
BM 150 Pro
~110# LR
~2-3" SB
2 120w LED fixtures

The only things I have in my tank right now are:
Bristle worms
A few small seastars (not sure what kind they showed up one day)
A few bristle stars (I see their arms sticking out of the LR every now and then)
3 small Kenya trees (hitchhikers on LR from local reefer)
Lots of snails (again, not sure what kind they just showed up one day)
Spaghetti worm dusters (look exactly how I named them )

Pretty much a tank full of basic life...

I'm super excited that my tank is finally ready, but since I have waited this long I don't wanna rush into making a fish purchase. I was thinking about maybe one or two blennies (lawnmower and something else) but I am not sure if they are a good first fish. I know that I dont want anything too territorial or else it will "claim" the whole tank and bully any new additions.

So I leave it to you, old hand reefers, to suggest a good first fish!!


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Gentlemen here is my proposed stock list

120 breeder
55 sump/fuge
ASM G1x skimmer
175 lbs live rock (125 in DT 50 in sump)
225 live sand (160 in DT 65 in sump)
Very minimal Aquascaping (2 islands) very open
currently in the tank are a royal gramma, longfin fairy wrasse, wheelers' goby and candy cane pistol shrimp, cleaner shimp, hermits,turbos,astraea, and a few nassaurius.

I would like to get
Desjardini Sailfin Tang
Powder blue tang
Hawkfish (undecided on which)
Coral Beauty
A couple of clowns and an anemone
maybe another wrasse of some sorts

If you could tell which order you think would work best for me that would be appreciated aswell.

Thanks in advance for your time.


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Capn Here is my proposed stock list

120 breeder
55 sump/fuge
ASM G1x skimmer
Very minimal Aquascaping (2 islands) very open
currently in the tank are a royal gramma, longfin fairy wrasse, wheelers' goby and candy cane pistol shrimp, cleaner shimp, hermits,turbos,astraea, and a few nassaurius.

I would like to get
Desjardini Sailfin Tang
Powder blue tang
Hawkfish (undecided on which)
Coral Beauty
A couple of clowns and an anemone
maybe another wrasse of some sorts

If you could tell which order you think would work best for me that would be appreciated aswell.

Thanks in advance for your time.
Is a 120 breeder still 4 foot long? If so, I would pass on both the tangs you suggested -- just get too big for that tank.

What type of clowns?
Any ideas of what type of anemones?
Do you have a sandbed?
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Is a 120 breeder still 4 foot long? If so, I would pass on both the tangs you suggested -- just get too big for that tank.

What type of clowns?
Any ideas of what type of anemones?
Do you have a sandbed?
What lights do you have?
Yea it's a 4x2x2
What would you suggest as far as a good active swimmer that will fit my tank? I figured somebody would crush my dreams of the tangs especially the PB. I just dont have the room at this house for a 6 footer. I already warned the wife the next house will have a 6 foot 300gal

Clowns probably Percs or Oscellaris
BTA hopefully a RBTA
3 1/2 to 4" Sandbed
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Yea it's a 4x2x2
What would you suggest as far as a good active swimmer that will fit my tank? I figured somebody would crush my dreams of the tangs especially the PB. I just dont have the room at this house for a 6 footer. I already warned the wife the next house will have a 6 foot 300gal

Clowns probably Percs or Oscellaris
BTA hopefully a RBTA
3 1/2 to 4" Sandbed
Aquaticlife G12 MH/T5/LED combo fixture
Could look into one of the bristle-tooth tangs, and perhaps a dwarf angel or two -- though always a risk with them and corals.

Not familiar with that fixture, but it would seem that you would have enough light for a BTA (( E. Quadricolor )). One note -- they are rock dwelling anemones, so you will have to plan around that.


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i love my snails. i put 10 trochus in my tank when i started it. they are great cleaners, fairly quick, dont get much bigger than a nickle, and none have died. also there are over 50 baby trochus snails in my tank now.

as for the angel yes, you should definately move the emperor to the 6' 125g tank. they get huge and need lots of space. especially if he is already 5-6 inches
Does the angel need "hiding" places? the 6' is really very open and in a busy room. No place to hide at all.


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Does the angel need "hiding" places? the 6' is really very open and in a busy room. No place to hide at all.
IMO, a 6 foot tank isn't going to be big enough for an emperor.


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