WOOT lol Odyssea NEEDLE WHEEL skimmer! - Page 11

luke33 · 07/03/2007, 06:37 PM

The recirc mod isn't a good idea with the extruded acrylic and its very very thin and will easily crack. I think on the first few pages a guy tried it and it cracked and he had to buy another one. The real mods here are as follows that will improve your performance alot.

1) Meshmod and 1/4" venturi

2) Take out inner tube

3) add 3/4" elbo on inner bulkhead. That is the only one i didn't try, the only thing that will be negative with this mod is it may lower scfh with the bend and may return more micro's. But it will help dwell time.

The genx2400 mod was just not much of a help imo.

clevername · 07/03/2007, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by luke33
The genx2400 mod was just not much of a help imo.

True, but since i now have a bend creating headloss, its the only way to go. Makes up for that, plus 3 layers of enkamat 4 rocks!

Without any mods the 2400 will be way overpowered

luke33 · 07/03/2007, 09:31 PM

I did the same cleverman, but in the end, the stock pump was just as good. I tested both as far as scfh go, and the stock pump can do the same as the genx. The only difference i see besides the gph is the fact that the odyssea doesn't want to start with alot of enkamat on it. I have not had this prob with any other odyssea pump.

cobra397 · 07/04/2007, 04:41 AM

luke on the input on the pump i bought the white pvc adapter. before i drilled anything i checked inside and noticed that the adapter was actually smaller that the stock inlet pipe? so i just left the stock inlet pipe on it and drilled a new hole as close to the seal as possible and put my 1/4 pipe on it. Then i just stopped up the stock air inlet pipe. Any reason you bought the pvc inlet pipe?

clevername · 07/05/2007, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cobra397
luke on the input on the pump i bought the white pvc adapter. before i drilled anything i checked inside and noticed that the adapter was actually smaller that the stock inlet pipe? so i just left the stock inlet pipe on it and drilled a new hole as close to the seal as possible and put my 1/4 pipe on it. Then i just stopped up the stock air inlet pipe. Any reason you bought the pvc inlet pipe?

This exactly what i did.

miatawnt2b · 07/07/2007, 08:52 AM

I'm really wanting a 160 to replace my DIY recirc skimmer, but I really don't think it's going to fit in my sump under the tank. I have about 10.5x11 inches to work with and at max 26 inches of height from bottom of the sump to the bottom of the display tank. From the measurements on aquatraders site, this isn't going to be enough room, but I don't necessarily trust their dimensions. Can someone give me accurate measurements?

Thanks,
-J

jayvee10 · 07/07/2007, 09:47 AM

Mia,
Thanks for the thread you started on the Odyssea lights. Got one myself a few month back. On my calculation the 160 has a footprint of 10X10 inches minimum and the height of 22 inches plus another 1.5 inches to take out the collection cup. you are good to go but might be a little tight fit with the footprint.

jayvee10 · 07/07/2007, 09:50 AM

You may also want to try luke's via aqua. It workes great for him. But I'm not sure about the dimensions
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...5&pagenumber=1

luke33 · 07/07/2007, 11:38 AM

The dimensions are to big for it, you'll need a few more inches on each side.

chevegan · 07/07/2007, 04:11 PM

ya the via aqua is great but huge-X-large

chevegan · 07/07/2007, 04:12 PM

oh and luke my new tank is up and running....I should have whatever isn't dead transferred by tomorrow and post a pic. I've lost a total of $300 of coral, maybe more. Makes me sick counting.

clevername · 07/07/2007, 07:36 PM

Well i am not at home to measure the PS160, but i can tell you i have it sitting in a 10G tank. Thats only about 10inches wide right?

luke33 · 07/07/2007, 08:45 PM

A 10g tank is 12" wide, the ps160 is fairly small footprint wise.

Chev good to hear from ya and i'll be looking forward to your pics....on my night, I built a canopy for my tank finally, and have it ready to add my 250w MH and my 2x48 blue plus and 2x48" fiji purple t5's overdriven with a IC660, should look pretty nice. On a horror story note, I was about 90% done and my 3 yr old boy accidentally dumped furniture stain, dark maple to be exact all over him, from head to toe, so he stained himself dark maple tonight, so i was on teh phone with eroom and poison control to see if he did anything bad. He's ok, but what a freakin night!

Varanus37 · 07/07/2007, 10:57 PM

So I've got a PS 75 and I'm having a problem with it. Its HOB on my 55 and it was running great for awhile. Now I can't get it to stop overflowing. No matter what I set the outlet valve at, it overflows. Any ideas how to fix this? I'm sorry if I missed this issue earlier in the thread but 40+ pages is alot to go through. Thanks for any input.

Bill

luke33 · 07/07/2007, 11:18 PM

Billman, have you dosed your tank lately or done any water changes with additives or added any new equipment? These are my first thoughts. I'm headin to bed, later.

Varanus37 · 07/07/2007, 11:25 PM

I've tried Coral-Vite and Str&Mol additives recently. Would these things cause my skimmer to overflow? I don't see how that would happen. I've heard that changes in water chemistry can alter how a skimmer performs but I didn't realize that it would be so drastic. Thanks for any input.

Bill

chevegan · 07/08/2007, 12:18 AM

it may...also check to make sure your air intake isn't blocked...or try completely removing the adjustment screw. If air intake gets blocked the pump will just push water causing it to overflow as well.

ganjero · 07/08/2007, 01:57 AM

how noisy is thsi thing? I have my tank in the livingroom

luke33 · 07/08/2007, 08:51 AM

There quiet skimmers, as for the additives, yes that would cause an overflow imo. When i ran the ps160, water changes would sometimes get it overflowing.

Varanus37 · 07/08/2007, 10:07 AM

Thanks for the input. Why would changes such as additives cause the skimmer to overflow? I'll double check all the air lines for blockages. Thank goodness I've got a 4 day weekend this time. Plenty of tinkering with the tank to do.

Bill

OnlyCrimson · 07/08/2007, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Varanus37
Thanks for the input. Why would changes such as additives cause the skimmer to overflow? I'll double check all the air lines for blockages. Thank goodness I've got a 4 day weekend this time. Plenty of tinkering with the tank to do.

Bill

Some additives will cause the skimmer to pull almost all of its bubbles into the collection cup. Not exactly sure of the science behind it.

ziac · 07/08/2007, 11:27 AM

check the spounge on the outlet it is very fine and clogs

Varanus37 · 07/08/2007, 06:34 PM

So, I completely shut the air down. Now its essentially a pump pushing water through a tube. I'm going to let it run like this for a day or so and then slowly open the valve and allow air in. We'll see what happens but I think I should be able to dial it in this way. I'll just have to go slow. Thanks for all the input and the help. I'll let you know tomorrow night how it all went.

Bill

chevegan · 07/09/2007, 01:30 AM

here you go luke and the rest of ya that wanna check out my 50.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1159044

miatawnt2b · 07/09/2007, 08:03 AM

Holy crap. The price of the skimmer isn't bad, but the shipping is insane! Does aquatraders ever offer free shipping on these?

-J

07/07/2007, 08:52 AM	#256
miatawnt2b Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,467	I'm really wanting a 160 to replace my DIY recirc skimmer, but I really don't think it's going to fit in my sump under the tank. I have about 10.5x11 inches to work with and at max 26 inches of height from bottom of the sump to the bottom of the display tank. From the measurements on aquatraders site, this isn't going to be enough room, but I don't necessarily trust their dimensions. Can someone give me accurate measurements? Thanks, -J __________________ Proud member of the JTCCB (jebao tuners club for cheap bastards)

07/07/2007, 04:11 PM	#260
chevegan Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Colorado springs, co Posts: 1,614	ya the via aqua is great but huge-X-large __________________ Everything is copasetic. Reefing on a budget Current Tank Info: Do it right the first time, save up, spend where it counts OR end up another craigslist ad of money lost.--------Why is this hobby so damn expensive??!-------

07/07/2007, 04:12 PM	#261
chevegan Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Colorado springs, co Posts: 1,614	oh and luke my new tank is up and running....I should have whatever isn't dead transferred by tomorrow and post a pic. I've lost a total of $300 of coral, maybe more. Makes me sick counting. __________________ Everything is copasetic. Reefing on a budget Current Tank Info: Do it right the first time, save up, spend where it counts OR end up another craigslist ad of money lost.--------Why is this hobby so damn expensive??!-------

07/08/2007, 12:18 AM	#267
chevegan Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Colorado springs, co Posts: 1,614	it may...also check to make sure your air intake isn't blocked...or try completely removing the adjustment screw. If air intake gets blocked the pump will just push water causing it to overflow as well. __________________ Everything is copasetic. Reefing on a budget Current Tank Info: Do it right the first time, save up, spend where it counts OR end up another craigslist ad of money lost.--------Why is this hobby so damn expensive??!-------

07/09/2007, 01:30 AM	#274
chevegan Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Colorado springs, co Posts: 1,614	here you go luke and the rest of ya that wanna check out my 50. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1159044 __________________ Everything is copasetic. Reefing on a budget Current Tank Info: Do it right the first time, save up, spend where it counts OR end up another craigslist ad of money lost.--------Why is this hobby so damn expensive??!-------

07/03/2007, 06:37 PM	#251
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	The recirc mod isn't a good idea with the extruded acrylic and its very very thin and will easily crack. I think on the first few pages a guy tried it and it cracked and he had to buy another one. The real mods here are as follows that will improve your performance alot. 1) Meshmod and 1/4" venturi 2) Take out inner tube 3) add 3/4" elbo on inner bulkhead. That is the only one i didn't try, the only thing that will be negative with this mod is it may lower scfh with the bend and may return more micro's. But it will help dwell time. The genx2400 mod was just not much of a help imo.

07/03/2007, 09:31 PM	#253
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	I did the same cleverman, but in the end, the stock pump was just as good. I tested both as far as scfh go, and the stock pump can do the same as the genx. The only difference i see besides the gph is the fact that the odyssea doesn't want to start with alot of enkamat on it. I have not had this prob with any other odyssea pump.

07/04/2007, 04:41 AM	#254
cobra397 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US> TN. Posts: 149	luke on the input on the pump i bought the white pvc adapter. before i drilled anything i checked inside and noticed that the adapter was actually smaller that the stock inlet pipe? so i just left the stock inlet pipe on it and drilled a new hole as close to the seal as possible and put my 1/4 pipe on it. Then i just stopped up the stock air inlet pipe. Any reason you bought the pvc inlet pipe?

07/07/2007, 09:47 AM	#257
jayvee10 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Culver City, California Posts: 146	Mia, Thanks for the thread you started on the Odyssea lights. Got one myself a few month back. On my calculation the 160 has a footprint of 10X10 inches minimum and the height of 22 inches plus another 1.5 inches to take out the collection cup. you are good to go but might be a little tight fit with the footprint.

07/07/2007, 09:50 AM	#258
jayvee10 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Culver City, California Posts: 146	You may also want to try luke's via aqua. It workes great for him. But I'm not sure about the dimensions http://reefcentral.com/forums/showth...5&pagenumber=1

07/07/2007, 11:38 AM	#259
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	The dimensions are to big for it, you'll need a few more inches on each side.

07/07/2007, 07:36 PM	#262
clevername Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Manchester, MO Posts: 1,125	Well i am not at home to measure the PS160, but i can tell you i have it sitting in a 10G tank. Thats only about 10inches wide right?

07/07/2007, 08:45 PM	#263
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	A 10g tank is 12" wide, the ps160 is fairly small footprint wise. Chev good to hear from ya and i'll be looking forward to your pics....on my night, I built a canopy for my tank finally, and have it ready to add my 250w MH and my 2x48 blue plus and 2x48" fiji purple t5's overdriven with a IC660, should look pretty nice. On a horror story note, I was about 90% done and my 3 yr old boy accidentally dumped furniture stain, dark maple to be exact all over him, from head to toe, so he stained himself dark maple tonight, so i was on teh phone with eroom and poison control to see if he did anything bad. He's ok, but what a freakin night!

07/07/2007, 10:57 PM	#264
Varanus37 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 66	So I've got a PS 75 and I'm having a problem with it. Its HOB on my 55 and it was running great for awhile. Now I can't get it to stop overflowing. No matter what I set the outlet valve at, it overflows. Any ideas how to fix this? I'm sorry if I missed this issue earlier in the thread but 40+ pages is alot to go through. Thanks for any input. Bill

07/07/2007, 11:18 PM	#265
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Billman, have you dosed your tank lately or done any water changes with additives or added any new equipment? These are my first thoughts. I'm headin to bed, later.

07/07/2007, 11:25 PM	#266
Varanus37 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 66	I've tried Coral-Vite and Str&Mol additives recently. Would these things cause my skimmer to overflow? I don't see how that would happen. I've heard that changes in water chemistry can alter how a skimmer performs but I didn't realize that it would be so drastic. Thanks for any input. Bill

07/08/2007, 01:57 AM	#268
ganjero saiperchémibatteilcorazon Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 4,027	how noisy is thsi thing? I have my tank in the livingroom

07/08/2007, 08:51 AM	#269
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	There quiet skimmers, as for the additives, yes that would cause an overflow imo. When i ran the ps160, water changes would sometimes get it overflowing.

07/08/2007, 10:07 AM	#270
Varanus37 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 66	Thanks for the input. Why would changes such as additives cause the skimmer to overflow? I'll double check all the air lines for blockages. Thank goodness I've got a 4 day weekend this time. Plenty of tinkering with the tank to do. Bill

07/08/2007, 11:27 AM	#272
ziac Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: champaign illinois Posts: 339	check the spounge on the outlet it is very fine and clogs

07/08/2007, 06:34 PM	#273
Varanus37 Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Coal City, IL Posts: 66	So, I completely shut the air down. Now its essentially a pump pushing water through a tube. I'm going to let it run like this for a day or so and then slowly open the valve and allow air in. We'll see what happens but I think I should be able to dial it in this way. I'll just have to go slow. Thanks for all the input and the help. I'll let you know tomorrow night how it all went. Bill

07/09/2007, 08:03 AM	#275
miatawnt2b Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 1,467	Holy crap. The price of the skimmer isn't bad, but the shipping is insane! Does aquatraders ever offer free shipping on these? -J __________________ Proud member of the JTCCB (jebao tuners club for cheap bastards)