Maxspect Mazarra. - Page 11

streetsong · 08/31/2011, 02:53 PM

I'm out! I just cancelled my Mazarra and switched to AI's. For my new 76 gal half-circle that will eventually be SPS dominated, AI simply has a great track record. The Mazarra will surely have advantages (Newer LED technology) but in this case, I'm just not comfortable taking an expensive risk...maybe I'll be missing out, but I think the AI's will work better for my tank.

chgoblknazn · 08/31/2011, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetsong

I'm out! I just cancelled my Mazarra and switched to AI's. For my new 76 gal half-circle that will eventually be SPS dominated, AI simply has a great track record. The Mazarra will surely have advantages (Newer LED technology) but in this case, I'm just not comfortable taking an expensive risk...maybe I'll be missing out, but I think the AI's will work better for my tank.

I decided on the same thing. I was really trying to hold out for these but I am starting my purchases. This weekend I starting to piece together my parts and order my tank and stand. Tank and stand arrive in 6-8 weeks and I want to be able to put the setup together as soon as they are fabricated and delivered. If I feel the need I may look at these again after more people have reviewed them and after income tax refund time.

TucanSam007 · 08/31/2011, 06:58 PM

Marine Depot said they are shipping out the black version monday. I'm going to stick this out and hopefully have some better feedback.

Beenalongtime79 · 08/31/2011, 08:58 PM

Those that have backed out are weak-willed and deserters at best. haha. Just kidding!

I definitely don't blame you.... after all, it would have been amazing if something out of the gate beat out the established LED leader in America, but I think they get pretty close to AI.

I've seen both in action and I think the Mazarras look better in general and even though I complain about line management, the AI Sol Blues don't look any better. You also don't have as many options to change out the LEDs in the AI units as you do w/ the Mazarra. I'm sticking with the Mazarras because we've got a great american dealer and it seems like Maxspect is receptive to the critiques that have been brought up so unless AI changes up their units, I definitely think the Mazarras are in the same league and may even surpass the AIs in the future.

I hope you enjoy your units... no matter which ones you get.

Cheers,
John

Beenalongtime79 · 08/31/2011, 08:59 PM

sorry, DP

Maivortex · 08/31/2011, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mos90

would 4 modules be enough for a 125g mixed reef 72x18x21?

yes, you could use mostly 100 degree optics but have some 70 degree optic s in areas that have your higher light demanding corals.

FlyFishJeff · 09/01/2011, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetsong

I'm out! I just cancelled my Mazarra and switched to AI's. For my new 76 gal half-circle that will eventually be SPS dominated, AI simply has a great track record. The Mazarra will surely have advantages (Newer LED technology) but in this case, I'm just not comfortable taking an expensive risk...maybe I'll be missing out, but I think the AI's will work better for my tank.

I'm out as well. I cancelled my Mazarra order. The order was for 5 modules to cover a 218 gallon DSA Pro reef tank. I can get the same coverage with 4 AI Sol Blue units for less money. I'm going with AI because of their proven track record, USA build, and reputation for excellent customer service. As I said in a previous post, it's just too much money for me to take the early-adopter risk.

mos90 · 09/01/2011, 10:18 AM

im still tring to figure out which way i will go. i like both of them. i need 4 modules no matter which 1 i choose so the cost is about the same. i might wait until the maxspect gets some reviews.

Mandragen · 09/01/2011, 12:56 PM

What about waiting for those new EcoTech Marine Radion XR30w?!?! I have the old maxspect units and they are great lights but the specs on the Ecotech look AMAZING!

chgoblknazn · 09/01/2011, 02:40 PM

Product Specifications *

Radion XR30w dimensions
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

•Length: 11.8 in (30m)
•Width: 7 in (18cm)
•Thickness: 1.5” (3.9cm)

Power Consumption
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

•~130watts

Premium Features
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

•5-channel control of color and intensity, 6-channel capable
•8x Cree XP-G Cool White LEDs run at 5w each
•8x Cree XP-E Blue LEDs run at 3w each
•10x Cree XP-E Royal Blue LEDs run at 3w each
•4x Cree XP-E Green LEDs run at 3w each
•4x Osram Oslon SSL Hyper Red LEDs run at 3w each
•RGB LED configuration allows infinite color possibilities
•Integrates wirelessly with VorTech pumps and other Radion fixtures
•USB Connectivity
•Computer configurable advanced settings
•Compatible with EcoTech Battery Backup

Radion Features
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

•34 Energy-efficient LEDs
•Fully adjustable for intensity and color appeal
•Output engineered for wide dispersion of light
•Minimal color banding through optimized optics
•Modular LED cluster, lens, and driver assemblies
•Fully upgradeable with evolving software and firmware
•Capacitive touch exterior controls
•Revolutionary heat sink design allows the Radion to be sleek
•Switching power supply for 110-220v operation
•EcoSmart™ multi-light wireless functionality
•Easy import and export of saved modes for online sharing
•Extremely quiet fan operation
•Real-time clock
Note: Basic hanging kit supplied with light. Premium hanging kit sold separately.

Usage Guidelines
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

•One Radion fixture is comparable to one 250w metal halide
•Generally, one Radion fixture should be used per 40 gallons (150L) of water volume.
•Approximate surface coverage is 24x24 inches (60x60cm)

Radion XR30w MSRP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

•$749

*All product specifications are subject to change.
Foreign and domestic patents pending.

These are pricey. Has anyone seen pics?

mos90 · 09/02/2011, 08:49 AM

they are not releasing any pictures until the show in iowa. they are basicaly the same price as ai or maxspect for the same coverage.

pmrossetti · 09/02/2011, 09:06 AM

NOT PRICEY at all 2200d for a 6' tank.

mos90 · 09/02/2011, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmrossetti

NOT PRICEY at all 2200d for a 6' tank.

i wouldnt say thats not pricey but its comparible to most high end leds. i only have about $700.00 tied up in my 6ft mh-t5 lighting. thats not pricey.

pmrossetti · 09/02/2011, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mos90

i wouldnt say thats not pricey but its comparible to most high end leds. i only have about $700.00 tied up in my 6ft mh-t5 lighting. thats not pricey.

figure a 6' mh,t5,led fixture is over 1000d, then bulb replacements and electric, the led will more than pay for itself quickly.

mos90 · 09/02/2011, 09:30 AM

im not sure what it costs for electric per year but bulb replacement is about $300.00. so to guess i might save $500-$600 per year to switch to leds.

curlykid · 09/02/2011, 09:33 AM

it's preference really. i will never switch to leds, i just don't like their appearance or their affect on corals.

mos90 · 09/02/2011, 09:53 AM

yes it is preference. why switch if u dont like them.

i just figured out my electic usage per year and im not happy. my lights alone use 1kw per hour for a total of 10kwh per day. for the year im using 3650 kwh at 13c per kwh. thats about $500 a year for just to run my lights. if i switch to leds(300w) 3kw per day my bill will be around $140.00 if i run the leds at 100% for 10 hours a day.

Vinny Kreyling · 09/02/2011, 10:27 AM

When my halides were running so was the chiller.
With my Solaris it never runs unless the house gets too warm with windows open.
With ac on it's always off.
Time to sell the chiller!
My corals seem to like it too!

Beenalongtime79 · 09/02/2011, 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curlykid

it's preference really. i will never switch to leds, i just don't like their appearance or their affect on corals.

That's a bold statement.

Never say never...

streetsong · 09/02/2011, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curlykid

it's preference really. i will never switch to leds, i just don't like their appearance or their affect on corals.

You don't like your corals to grow? ; ) (Sorry, I couldn't help myself!)

reefsurfing · 09/03/2011, 10:55 AM

Anyone have any updates? how are your units working? do you still like them/ would you buy them again ?

Chris Lakies · 09/03/2011, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefsurfing

Anyone have any updates? how are your units working? do you still like them/ would you buy them again ?

I still like mine a lot.....

My second silver module shipped Friday i believe.....

reefsurfing · 09/03/2011, 12:25 PM

Chris I sent you a PM; do you have any pics or a build thread we can check out?

Rocky_Mtn_Reef · 09/03/2011, 03:35 PM

I was thinking about getting these. They seem like quality lights. But when i asked how many i would need for my tank i was told 6. So i decided to just go with the vertex illumina. Seemed like a better deal since it was cheaper...and i have yet to hear a bad thing about them.

Acrotrdco · 09/05/2011, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reefsurfing

Chris I sent you a PM; do you have any pics or a build thread we can check out?

See mine here:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2065954

09/01/2011, 10:18 AM	#258
mos90 Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: rome,ny Posts: 1,151	im still tring to figure out which way i will go. i like both of them. i need 4 modules no matter which 1 i choose so the cost is about the same. i might wait until the maxspect gets some reviews. Last edited by mos90; 09/01/2011 at 10:56 AM.

09/01/2011, 12:56 PM	#259
Mandragen Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lake Norman, North Carolina Posts: 700	What about waiting for those new EcoTech Marine Radion XR30w?!?! I have the old maxspect units and they are great lights but the specs on the Ecotech look AMAZING! __________________ Oliver "Live a life uncommon." Current Tank Info: Falcon

09/02/2011, 09:33 AM	#266
curlykid Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: America Posts: 722	it's preference really. i will never switch to leds, i just don't like their appearance or their affect on corals. __________________ Sent from my fingers using sensory organs

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08/31/2011, 02:53 PM	#251
streetsong Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 20	I'm out! I just cancelled my Mazarra and switched to AI's. For my new 76 gal half-circle that will eventually be SPS dominated, AI simply has a great track record. The Mazarra will surely have advantages (Newer LED technology) but in this case, I'm just not comfortable taking an expensive risk...maybe I'll be missing out, but I think the AI's will work better for my tank.

08/31/2011, 06:58 PM	#253
TucanSam007 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Suffolk, Long Island Posts: 652	Marine Depot said they are shipping out the black version monday. I'm going to stick this out and hopefully have some better feedback.

08/31/2011, 08:58 PM	#254
Beenalongtime79 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,437	Those that have backed out are weak-willed and deserters at best. haha. Just kidding! I definitely don't blame you.... after all, it would have been amazing if something out of the gate beat out the established LED leader in America, but I think they get pretty close to AI. I've seen both in action and I think the Mazarras look better in general and even though I complain about line management, the AI Sol Blues don't look any better. You also don't have as many options to change out the LEDs in the AI units as you do w/ the Mazarra. I'm sticking with the Mazarras because we've got a great american dealer and it seems like Maxspect is receptive to the critiques that have been brought up so unless AI changes up their units, I definitely think the Mazarras are in the same league and may even surpass the AIs in the future. I hope you enjoy your units... no matter which ones you get. Cheers, John

08/31/2011, 08:59 PM	#255
Beenalongtime79 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 4,437	sorry, DP

09/01/2011, 02:40 PM	#260
chgoblknazn Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Chicago - East Pilsen/UIC Area Posts: 642	Product Specifications * Radion XR30w dimensions -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- •Length: 11.8 in (30m) •Width: 7 in (18cm) •Thickness: 1.5” (3.9cm) Power Consumption -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- •~130watts Premium Features -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- •5-channel control of color and intensity, 6-channel capable •8x Cree XP-G Cool White LEDs run at 5w each •8x Cree XP-E Blue LEDs run at 3w each •10x Cree XP-E Royal Blue LEDs run at 3w each •4x Cree XP-E Green LEDs run at 3w each •4x Osram Oslon SSL Hyper Red LEDs run at 3w each •RGB LED configuration allows infinite color possibilities •Integrates wirelessly with VorTech pumps and other Radion fixtures •USB Connectivity •Computer configurable advanced settings •Compatible with EcoTech Battery Backup Radion Features -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- •34 Energy-efficient LEDs •Fully adjustable for intensity and color appeal •Output engineered for wide dispersion of light •Minimal color banding through optimized optics •Modular LED cluster, lens, and driver assemblies •Fully upgradeable with evolving software and firmware •Capacitive touch exterior controls •Revolutionary heat sink design allows the Radion to be sleek •Switching power supply for 110-220v operation •EcoSmart™ multi-light wireless functionality •Easy import and export of saved modes for online sharing •Extremely quiet fan operation •Real-time clock Note: Basic hanging kit supplied with light. Premium hanging kit sold separately. Usage Guidelines -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- •One Radion fixture is comparable to one 250w metal halide •Generally, one Radion fixture should be used per 40 gallons (150L) of water volume. •Approximate surface coverage is 24x24 inches (60x60cm) Radion XR30w MSRP -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- •$749 *All product specifications are subject to change. Foreign and domestic patents pending. These are pricey. Has anyone seen pics?

09/02/2011, 08:49 AM	#261
mos90 Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: rome,ny Posts: 1,151	they are not releasing any pictures until the show in iowa. they are basicaly the same price as ai or maxspect for the same coverage.

09/02/2011, 09:06 AM	#262
pmrossetti Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cali. Posts: 3,199	NOT PRICEY at all 2200d for a 6' tank.

09/02/2011, 09:30 AM	#265
mos90 Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: rome,ny Posts: 1,151	im not sure what it costs for electric per year but bulb replacement is about $300.00. so to guess i might save $500-$600 per year to switch to leds.

09/02/2011, 09:53 AM	#267
mos90 Registered Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: rome,ny Posts: 1,151	yes it is preference. why switch if u dont like them. i just figured out my electic usage per year and im not happy. my lights alone use 1kw per hour for a total of 10kwh per day. for the year im using 3650 kwh at 13c per kwh. thats about $500 a year for just to run my lights. if i switch to leds(300w) 3kw per day my bill will be around $140.00 if i run the leds at 100% for 10 hours a day.

09/02/2011, 10:27 AM	#268
Vinny Kreyling Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Miller Place, NY Posts: 7,206	When my halides were running so was the chiller. With my Solaris it never runs unless the house gets too warm with windows open. With ac on it's always off. Time to sell the chiller! My corals seem to like it too!

09/03/2011, 10:55 AM	#271
reefsurfing Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 499	Anyone have any updates? how are your units working? do you still like them/ would you buy them again ?

09/03/2011, 12:25 PM	#273
reefsurfing Registered Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 499	Chris I sent you a PM; do you have any pics or a build thread we can check out?

09/03/2011, 03:35 PM	#274
Rocky_Mtn_Reef Moved On Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 65	I was thinking about getting these. They seem like quality lights. But when i asked how many i would need for my tank i was told 6. So i decided to just go with the vertex illumina. Seemed like a better deal since it was cheaper...and i have yet to hear a bad thing about them.