almost 35 year old reef pictures - Page 11

Paul B · 06/28/2006, 03:19 PM

You mean like the small anemones at the front center of the picture? I have been doing experiments on them. So far I injected them with Clorox, Lugols Iodine, kalk, diluted copper, and metheline blue. So far all the stuff makes them healthier.
I haven't killed one yet. But it is an interesting experiment. I do not remove crabs, (unless they get big) starfish, slugs or anything else. If I had a mantis shrimp I would probably remove it but everything else stays. Since I add all sorts of local stuff I find a lot of wierd things in there.
Paul

Nano Chris · 06/28/2006, 03:27 PM

That looks awsome!

Paul B · 06/28/2006, 03:49 PM

Criminal, thanks

Sarah D. · 06/28/2006, 06:13 PM

Yes, exactly Paul, thanks.

I moved my tank 1000 miles recently and managed not to lose a thing in there. Hopefully I'll be putting some new local things in soon out of the Chesapeake Bay.

Micki · 06/29/2006, 04:25 AM

Paul have you tried boiling vinegar? That usually works good for me. Just a though.

Paul B · 06/29/2006, 05:21 PM

Micki, I have tried vinegar but not boiling. I would imagine boiling anything would work. I am still having fun injecting them with any thing I can find.

I do have some hydrocloric acid I will try soon

Micki · 06/29/2006, 05:26 PM

Actually I'be tried boiling water and that didn't work. The vinegar did though.

Paul B · 06/29/2006, 05:53 PM

OK the next time we have salad I will boil some vinegar.
Paul

Paul B · 07/01/2006, 04:50 AM

Last night we went out by boat to watch the fireworks at Orchid beach in the Bronx.
I found a new location to collect sponge to feed my moorish Idol,
City Island is full of the stuff which means I will have enough to feed him all winter. Last year I ran out of the stuff.
The Idol is about the only fish that eats the disguesting stuff but it is his favorite food and since they eat mostly sponge I feed it to him. I would really like to know what it is composed of.
It is that orange looking spongy stuff that you see clinging to docks near the surface of the water.
I can't keep it alive for more than a few hours so I freeze it.
Have a great Fourth of July.
Paul

Micki · 07/01/2006, 06:08 AM

That's cool. Do you just put it in and he is the only one that goes for it? Or, do you target feed im?

Paul B · 07/01/2006, 07:04 AM

Micki I target feed all of my fish but he is the only one except the bangai cardinal that eats it. The smaller gobies eat a little of it but they don't like it much. The Idol will eat all I can give him.
I really don't know if it's healthy or not but it can't be that bad.
Have a great Fourth of July.
Paul

Micki · 07/01/2006, 07:06 AM

Thanks Paul. Have a great 4th yourself!

zuzecawi · 07/01/2006, 10:50 AM

This thread has just got me inspired. Paul, you've boosted the local Target plastic sales by n-fold powers. I've really taken that turf algae filter idea and started running with it. And there's a small random metal junk collecting effort going on in my neighborhood with the friends who admire the current tank and can't wait to see the "Paul's Reef Authentic" method start up. So far we've got strange chain oddments, a small flywheel, bent forks, several cool bottles excavated from my backyard by my industriously helpful digging crew (my two wolves and the doberman) and possibly part of a victorian wrought iron chair. I admit, there's a industrial element in effect here (go figure) what with the whole Army-mechanic-engineer bent, but it's all good.
You know, this also has me thinking things through a little more in terms of the long haul. Our scrap pile at work gets all sorts of cool M35A2 (deuce-n-a-half) oddments. We figure to cherrypick the best of the stuff when the tank is closer to done. I can't dive or swim or even really walk much anymore, but I can sure dig through a pile of scrap like to put any raccoon to shame.

sunfishh · 07/01/2006, 12:36 PM

Zuzecawi Paul has a habit of inspiring. He has inspired me and I don't even have a salt tank

I think this is the summer that the 100 goes salt though.

Paul B · 07/01/2006, 05:38 PM

Oh boy, I can see it coming. You guys are going to be putting tractor trailer transmissions in your reefs and trying to figure out why your hair algae is two feet long. Be careful what you are doing. Most of that stuff has to be coated with resin but if the item rusts under the resin, it will crack or flake off putting a lot of iron in your tank. That is not necessarilly bad for corals but it is great for nice green hair algae.
It was not really my purpose to get you to put chains, cans, bottles and victorian furniture in your tanks.
I guess I am in trouble now. I will be getting messages telling me to stop giving out eronious information.

Don't forget, it is not my fault that all these people are putting junk in their tank.
Have a great Fourth of July guys but don't put fireworks in your tank

graveyardworm · 07/01/2006, 06:48 PM

I hear M-80's are great for getting those hard to catch fish out of your tank.

Paul B · 07/01/2006, 06:58 PM

I am sure they are. In Nam we used to throw a couple of grenades in a pond before we jumped in. Never got bit by anything.

reefnetworth · 07/02/2006, 06:08 AM

Paul B, you remind me of my father sooo much. except for the experimental thing. "if it aint broke, dont fix it" he flew recon' and bombed the hochi-mien! (I spell it how he pronounces it) i had an 9 yr old reef tank with DSB, one magnum 350, no carbon, only mesh for cleaning diatom i stirred up. 2 marineland PH's, and a Berlin style skimmer. it was taken in an ice storm about 8 yrs ago. i had so many christmass tree worms i forgot all the colors. i do rem. some big as golfballs and some almost baseball size. one morish idol, 2 yellow tangs, 8 frigin' damnsals i never caught. 2 perks and tons of feather dusters. all on LR i paid upwards of $12.00 a lb for. Instant Ocean was the only salt. only fed them every 2 days. did water changes once a month. 55G tank, 10G H2O change. you brought back lots of mems' hope to do as well as you with my new ones. so, keep us all laughin and remembering, failure is the best success. REEF-ON brother, REEF-ON!!!

Paul B · 07/02/2006, 07:14 AM

Nano4brains, (love the name) I would not know how to spell HoChiMein either. I flew about three times a week in a LOH (light observation helacopter) or a Ch47. I was shot down once in a LOH by a 50 caliper and I crashed once in a Schnook. I stayed in the jungle for a year in Nam and Cambodia in Tai Nin so I had a lot of time to observe the wildlife. I saw some red tail sharks in Cambodia. It was like living in a pet shop only all the cute little lizzards and snakes were ten feet long and the mosquetos were huge. One chased me once but his antlers got stuck between two trees.
I am glad (and surprised) that your DSB lasted nine years. I have to change my thinking on those.
And those Christmass tree worms are hard to keep over a year.
Do you know what unit your Father was in and what year? I was in the 1st Air Cav in 70.
This is me probably somewhere in the high country of Cambodia in about 1970. I still look exactly the same right to the hair on my head. My friend there was with me for a month or so, he was wandering around the jungle and I picked him up. He had some schrapnel in his tail and I think he was grateful that I helped him so he caught rats for me. Take care and have a great Fourth of July.
There are 4 more pictures here on the first page. I am the good looking one,
http://www.77fa.org/photos177.html

zuzecawi · 07/02/2006, 01:49 PM

Now, I draw the line at tractor trailer transmissions... a VW flywheel is sexy, a M920 tranny is just plain kink! Paul, my hat is off to you, two friggin chopper crashes! I was just on one, and it threw my whole game off. A CH-47 at that. Those things just don't crash pretty in the desert. Took a look at those pics you have, gives a different perspective on what we're stuck in now. We had some snakes and lizards, but mostly it's scorpions the size of toy poodles, and camel spiders the size of dinner plates. Everything else has better sense than to live in that forsaken country. And the fish... whacky lookin prehistoric plated monsters. Couldn't see eating those, but the eels weren't bad as long as you didn't think about the water they came out of.
My stepdad was 7th Cav, 69-73. He didn't talk much about it, but he mentioned Jesus Christ Lizards that would run across the top of the water. And centipedes that were the size of snakes. Never was sure if he was spoofing or not.

McCrary · 07/02/2006, 03:46 PM

Awesome tank Paul, when I look at your tank I am inspired with what can be done with knowledge and experience.

travisurfer · 07/02/2006, 04:21 PM

Wow, I just want to say great tank! This is such an inspiration. Makes me wanna go collecting again. Just wondering if you put anything besides bottles in your tank and if you dose anything? Oh, and how often do you do waterchanges? Sorry if this has been asked before, just dont have the time to read through every post.

Paul B · 07/02/2006, 07:16 PM

Travis I only dose home made calcium and alk. I change some water about four or five times a year. There are bottles, some rusty chain and I am working on an old Budweiser can.
Zuzecawi, they don't crash pretty in rice paddies either.
Turbosnail, thanks
Paul

travisurfer · 07/02/2006, 07:45 PM

ok thanks. awesome tank! have a great 4 of july.

Micki · 07/02/2006, 08:49 PM

Looking at your pictures of you in Nam... Wow... Looks like some young boys out there. Thank you and I'm glad you are safe.

06/28/2006, 03:27 PM	#252
Nano Chris Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,758	That looks awsome! __________________ Chris ------- 34 Gallon Red Sea Max 130! Setup (Just got back into the hobby) Current Tank Info: 34 Gallon RedSeaMax!

06/28/2006, 03:49 PM	#253
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Criminal, thanks __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

06/29/2006, 04:25 AM	#255
Micki Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,163	Paul have you tried boiling vinegar? That usually works good for me. Just a though. __________________ Micki... Western Ohio Reef Club Click the red house for my 125 progress! Current Tank Info: 125 gal. reef, 90 gal. sump, 10 gal. fuge, 40 gallon. 150 gallon fish only.

06/29/2006, 05:26 PM	#257
Micki Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,163	Actually I'be tried boiling water and that didn't work. The vinegar did though. __________________ Micki... Western Ohio Reef Club Click the red house for my 125 progress! Current Tank Info: 125 gal. reef, 90 gal. sump, 10 gal. fuge, 40 gallon. 150 gallon fish only.

06/29/2006, 05:53 PM	#258
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	OK the next time we have salad I will boil some vinegar. Paul __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

06/28/2006, 03:19 PM	#251
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	You mean like the small anemones at the front center of the picture? I have been doing experiments on them. So far I injected them with Clorox, Lugols Iodine, kalk, diluted copper, and metheline blue. So far all the stuff makes them healthier. I haven't killed one yet. But it is an interesting experiment. I do not remove crabs, (unless they get big) starfish, slugs or anything else. If I had a mantis shrimp I would probably remove it but everything else stays. Since I add all sorts of local stuff I find a lot of wierd things in there. Paul

06/28/2006, 06:13 PM	#254
Sarah D. Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 47	Yes, exactly Paul, thanks. I moved my tank 1000 miles recently and managed not to lose a thing in there. Hopefully I'll be putting some new local things in soon out of the Chesapeake Bay.

06/29/2006, 05:21 PM	#256
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Micki, I have tried vinegar but not boiling. I would imagine boiling anything would work. I am still having fun injecting them with any thing I can find. I do have some hydrocloric acid I will try soon

07/01/2006, 04:50 AM	#259
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Last night we went out by boat to watch the fireworks at Orchid beach in the Bronx. I found a new location to collect sponge to feed my moorish Idol, City Island is full of the stuff which means I will have enough to feed him all winter. Last year I ran out of the stuff. The Idol is about the only fish that eats the disguesting stuff but it is his favorite food and since they eat mostly sponge I feed it to him. I would really like to know what it is composed of. It is that orange looking spongy stuff that you see clinging to docks near the surface of the water. I can't keep it alive for more than a few hours so I freeze it. Have a great Fourth of July. Paul __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

07/01/2006, 06:08 AM	#260
Micki Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,163	That's cool. Do you just put it in and he is the only one that goes for it? Or, do you target feed im? __________________ Micki... Western Ohio Reef Club Click the red house for my 125 progress! Current Tank Info: 125 gal. reef, 90 gal. sump, 10 gal. fuge, 40 gallon. 150 gallon fish only.

07/01/2006, 07:04 AM	#261
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Micki I target feed all of my fish but he is the only one except the bangai cardinal that eats it. The smaller gobies eat a little of it but they don't like it much. The Idol will eat all I can give him. I really don't know if it's healthy or not but it can't be that bad. Have a great Fourth of July. Paul __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

07/01/2006, 07:06 AM	#262
Micki Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,163	Thanks Paul. Have a great 4th yourself! __________________ Micki... Western Ohio Reef Club Click the red house for my 125 progress! Current Tank Info: 125 gal. reef, 90 gal. sump, 10 gal. fuge, 40 gallon. 150 gallon fish only.

07/01/2006, 10:50 AM	#263
zuzecawi Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 472	This thread has just got me inspired. Paul, you've boosted the local Target plastic sales by n-fold powers. I've really taken that turf algae filter idea and started running with it. And there's a small random metal junk collecting effort going on in my neighborhood with the friends who admire the current tank and can't wait to see the "Paul's Reef Authentic" method start up. So far we've got strange chain oddments, a small flywheel, bent forks, several cool bottles excavated from my backyard by my industriously helpful digging crew (my two wolves and the doberman) and possibly part of a victorian wrought iron chair. I admit, there's a industrial element in effect here (go figure) what with the whole Army-mechanic-engineer bent, but it's all good. You know, this also has me thinking things through a little more in terms of the long haul. Our scrap pile at work gets all sorts of cool M35A2 (deuce-n-a-half) oddments. We figure to cherrypick the best of the stuff when the tank is closer to done. I can't dive or swim or even really walk much anymore, but I can sure dig through a pile of scrap like to put any raccoon to shame.

07/01/2006, 12:36 PM	#264
sunfishh Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Fullerton, Ca Posts: 1,875	Zuzecawi Paul has a habit of inspiring. He has inspired me and I don't even have a salt tank I think this is the summer that the 100 goes salt though. __________________ It's nice to be important, but important to be nice

07/01/2006, 05:38 PM	#265
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Oh boy, I can see it coming. You guys are going to be putting tractor trailer transmissions in your reefs and trying to figure out why your hair algae is two feet long. Be careful what you are doing. Most of that stuff has to be coated with resin but if the item rusts under the resin, it will crack or flake off putting a lot of iron in your tank. That is not necessarilly bad for corals but it is great for nice green hair algae. It was not really my purpose to get you to put chains, cans, bottles and victorian furniture in your tanks. I guess I am in trouble now. I will be getting messages telling me to stop giving out eronious information. Don't forget, it is not my fault that all these people are putting junk in their tank. Have a great Fourth of July guys but don't put fireworks in your tank

07/01/2006, 06:48 PM	#266
graveyardworm Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Nottingham, NH Posts: 7,251	I hear M-80's are great for getting those hard to catch fish out of your tank. __________________ -David- President - New Hampshire Reef Club There’ll be no one to save, with the world in a grave Current Tank Info: 100 gal lagoon/seagrass, 100 gal sump, Lifereef 72" skimmer, 180 inwall, 125 inwall seagrass/lagoon in progress

07/01/2006, 06:58 PM	#267
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	I am sure they are. In Nam we used to throw a couple of grenades in a pond before we jumped in. Never got bit by anything.

07/02/2006, 06:08 AM	#268
reefnetworth Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: U.S.A. Posts: 3,810	Paul B, you remind me of my father sooo much. except for the experimental thing. "if it aint broke, dont fix it" he flew recon' and bombed the hochi-mien! (I spell it how he pronounces it) i had an 9 yr old reef tank with DSB, one magnum 350, no carbon, only mesh for cleaning diatom i stirred up. 2 marineland PH's, and a Berlin style skimmer. it was taken in an ice storm about 8 yrs ago. i had so many christmass tree worms i forgot all the colors. i do rem. some big as golfballs and some almost baseball size. one morish idol, 2 yellow tangs, 8 frigin' damnsals i never caught. 2 perks and tons of feather dusters. all on LR i paid upwards of $12.00 a lb for. Instant Ocean was the only salt. only fed them every 2 days. did water changes once a month. 55G tank, 10G H2O change. you brought back lots of mems' hope to do as well as you with my new ones. so, keep us all laughin and remembering, failure is the best success. REEF-ON brother, REEF-ON!!! __________________ GIVE A MAN A FISH, YOU FEED HIM FOR A DAY. TEACH A MAN TO FISH, HE FEEDS HIMSELF FOR LIFE. (NEVER, underestimate another man's greed) Current Tank Info: SPS dominated barebottom display with BB sump since 2005, most consistant parameters in 19+ years of reefkeeping.

07/02/2006, 07:14 AM	#269
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Nano4brains, (love the name) I would not know how to spell HoChiMein either. I flew about three times a week in a LOH (light observation helacopter) or a Ch47. I was shot down once in a LOH by a 50 caliper and I crashed once in a Schnook. I stayed in the jungle for a year in Nam and Cambodia in Tai Nin so I had a lot of time to observe the wildlife. I saw some red tail sharks in Cambodia. It was like living in a pet shop only all the cute little lizzards and snakes were ten feet long and the mosquetos were huge. One chased me once but his antlers got stuck between two trees. I am glad (and surprised) that your DSB lasted nine years. I have to change my thinking on those. And those Christmass tree worms are hard to keep over a year. Do you know what unit your Father was in and what year? I was in the 1st Air Cav in 70. This is me probably somewhere in the high country of Cambodia in about 1970. I still look exactly the same right to the hair on my head. My friend there was with me for a month or so, he was wandering around the jungle and I picked him up. He had some schrapnel in his tail and I think he was grateful that I helped him so he caught rats for me. Take care and have a great Fourth of July. There are 4 more pictures here on the first page. I am the good looking one, http://www.77fa.org/photos177.html Last edited by Paul B; 07/02/2006 at 07:25 AM.

07/02/2006, 01:49 PM	#270
zuzecawi Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Salem, OR Posts: 472	Now, I draw the line at tractor trailer transmissions... a VW flywheel is sexy, a M920 tranny is just plain kink! Paul, my hat is off to you, two friggin chopper crashes! I was just on one, and it threw my whole game off. A CH-47 at that. Those things just don't crash pretty in the desert. Took a look at those pics you have, gives a different perspective on what we're stuck in now. We had some snakes and lizards, but mostly it's scorpions the size of toy poodles, and camel spiders the size of dinner plates. Everything else has better sense than to live in that forsaken country. And the fish... whacky lookin prehistoric plated monsters. Couldn't see eating those, but the eels weren't bad as long as you didn't think about the water they came out of. My stepdad was 7th Cav, 69-73. He didn't talk much about it, but he mentioned Jesus Christ Lizards that would run across the top of the water. And centipedes that were the size of snakes. Never was sure if he was spoofing or not.

07/02/2006, 03:46 PM	#271
McCrary Can't Stop Time Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,079	Awesome tank Paul, when I look at your tank I am inspired with what can be done with knowledge and experience. __________________ Matt Patience is the best remedy for every trouble. Titus Maccius Plautus (254 BC - 184 BC), Rudens

07/02/2006, 04:21 PM	#272
travisurfer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Unknown Posts: 814	Wow, I just want to say great tank! This is such an inspiration. Makes me wanna go collecting again. Just wondering if you put anything besides bottles in your tank and if you dose anything? Oh, and how often do you do waterchanges? Sorry if this has been asked before, just dont have the time to read through every post. __________________ Travis Current Tank Info: 20H

07/02/2006, 07:16 PM	#273
Paul B Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 15,549	Travis I only dose home made calcium and alk. I change some water about four or five times a year. There are bottles, some rusty chain and I am working on an old Budweiser can. Zuzecawi, they don't crash pretty in rice paddies either. Turbosnail, thanks Paul __________________ I used to get shocked when I put my hand in my tank. Then the electric eel went dead. Current Tank Info: 100 gal reef set up in 1971

07/02/2006, 07:45 PM	#274
travisurfer Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Unknown Posts: 814	ok thanks. awesome tank! have a great 4 of july. __________________ Travis Current Tank Info: 20H

07/02/2006, 08:49 PM	#275
Micki Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 7,163	Looking at your pictures of you in Nam... Wow... Looks like some young boys out there. Thank you and I'm glad you are safe. __________________ Micki... Western Ohio Reef Club Click the red house for my 125 progress! Current Tank Info: 125 gal. reef, 90 gal. sump, 10 gal. fuge, 40 gallon. 150 gallon fish only.