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Ssteve · 10/23/2017, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by muz_z

Before I go out a buy another A360We would it be better to buy 2 x 160we to go either side of the 360we?
I have the 360 in the centre of the tank at the moment would it be best to place another 360 in front equally spaced so front to rear or side by side?
Also if I went 2x 160 same deal should I run front to rear 160 360 160 or run side to side?

I would personally go with the two 160's as the biggest issues with kessils is shadowing once you have dense colonies.

muz_z · 10/23/2017, 01:30 PM

Bugger now I’m confused what way to go

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smatter · 10/23/2017, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by muz_z

Bugger now I’m confused what way to go

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One 360 should illuminate your 22" cube perfectly for quite some time. They are deceptively powerful and emit a lot of light in the range our eyes don't see well, don't fry your stuff. If I needed to add another I'd do a 360 for the sake of uniformity, but that's just me. They can be angled slightly inward to help with shadows but I think you'll find that you don't have many with reflection off of the glass and sand. One 360 lights up my 18" cube like a prism.

Thor2j · 10/23/2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by smatter

One 360 should illuminate your 22" cube perfectly for quite some time. They are deceptively powerful and emit a lot of light in the range our eyes don't see well, don't fry your stuff. If I needed to add another I'd do a 360 for the sake of uniformity, but that's just me. They can be angled slightly inward to help with shadows but I think you'll find that you don't have many with reflection off of the glass and sand. One 360 lights up my 18" cube like a prism.

It depends on how much sps he has. They loose a lot past 16" spread. I have done a ton of testing on 2-5 360s and 2 ap700s.

Ssteve · 10/23/2017, 07:46 PM

it also depends on your aquascape, types of corals etc. I ran a 350 over a biocube and had shadow issues, then I ran two 360's and a 150 over a 65g and had shadowing issues so I added t5's, then I ran 4 360's and two 160's over a 120g and had shadowing issues. just one single monti cap can render a massive amount of your tank useless when running kessils. personally the only way I would run kessils anymore would be in conjunction with some reefbrite strips or t5's.

muz_z · 10/24/2017, 01:39 AM

Well thanks for the help all
I went ahead and bought another A360WE today and put on the tank
Now I’m happy with how bright the tank is now and have plenty of power for the SPS
The shimmer did drop a bit to a point where I am happy
The two lights are now 8 inches apart
So will drop the intensity and do a acclimatisation mode and see how it goes
The lights are only mounted temporary will make a nice bracket to mount them to and hide the cabling
Thanks for everyone’s help

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madweazl · 10/24/2017, 05:32 AM

Since you've added a second light, I'd cut the intensity in half for the time being. I think you would have been fine with a single light because you don't have much room for corals to grow out large enough to be a big factor in such a small tank.

muz_z · 10/24/2017, 01:00 PM

Actually the tank was not bright enough for my liking with a single unit on 100%
The tank has got plenty of room for corals to grow out

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Thor2j · 10/24/2017, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by muz_z

Actually the tank was not bright enough for my liking with a single unit on 100%
The tank has got plenty of room for corals to grow out

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You'd better get a par meter before you go cranking things up to appeal to you aesthetically. Because it looks dim doesnt mean the PAR coming out isn't too high.

muz_z · 10/24/2017, 02:29 PM

Yes picking one up today
Lights are set to max 40% intensity and in acclimatisation mode

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muz_z · 10/24/2017, 02:30 PM

Had checked the radion that was taken off and it was running at 62%

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muz_z · 10/26/2017, 02:38 AM

Ok guys quick question in regards to intensity
I purchased a Seneye Reef today to check par
With the both lights at 8 inches above the water and corals about 6-8 inches below water at 40% intensity I was getting somewhere around 100-110 par
So ramped up the lights to 70% as test and was getting between 225-260
Does this sound about right ?
Interested to know what par readings you guys are getting

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Bronx19 · 10/26/2017, 04:01 AM

Perfect.

ComforablyNumb · 10/26/2017, 05:21 AM

Be careful with acclimatization.

I burned a forest fire digitata when it was moved from another tank into mine which is running 2 a360's.

Should have started it out at the bottom. I put it right at the top..big mistake.

muz_z · 10/26/2017, 02:24 PM

So has anyone taken par readings and have results?

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Larryrick1 · 10/26/2017, 02:50 PM

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So has anyone taken par readings and have results?

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reeferdude710 · 10/26/2017, 03:28 PM

best lights

muz_z · 10/26/2017, 03:30 PM

Thanks for the info guys
Just trying to get them set right so I don’t loose anything in the swap of lights

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joecc · 10/26/2017, 03:33 PM

Just curious, what kind of lifespan should one expect for Kessil 360's?

Is it wise to buy used?

knap_123 · 10/27/2017, 04:06 AM

Ok, i have a kessil that will turn on. The whites will ramp up and down. The blues will not. They come on at about 10% and thats it. Also the fan is bad. Any suggestions?

knap_123 · 10/27/2017, 04:09 AM

Joecc, I bought 2 360s yesterday. I saved up and had to tell a little lie to my wife. Lol told her they were only $100. Well, 1 don't work correctly. And not sure about the other now. Man, I'm really bummed about the whole experience. I hope kessilc an repair cheaply.

Bronx19 · 10/27/2017, 05:56 AM

I'm reading these stories everywhere now. Units failing straight from the box or on the one year mark. Whats up at Kessil?

knap_123 · 10/27/2017, 01:03 PM

I talked to them. I'm just over the 2 year mark. Not eligible for replacement. Unless I have a receipt. I didn't keep a receipt for over 2 years. So they offered me a service inspection for $100 Plus shipping. And additional charges may apply. Or a new fixture for 290 plus shipping. If rather by sb reeflights

ComforablyNumb · 10/27/2017, 02:02 PM

They replaced one for me .. didnt even ask for the old unit back.

But it has to be within the 2 yr warranty period.

ComforablyNumb · 10/27/2017, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bronx19

Units failing straight from the box or on the one year mark. Whats up at Kessil?

If a unit fails within two years, they will replace.

10/23/2017, 01:30 PM	#2777
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Bugger now I’m confused what way to go Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/23/2017, 07:46 PM	#2780
Ssteve Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,087	it also depends on your aquascape, types of corals etc. I ran a 350 over a biocube and had shadow issues, then I ran two 360's and a 150 over a 65g and had shadowing issues so I added t5's, then I ran 4 360's and two 160's over a 120g and had shadowing issues. just one single monti cap can render a massive amount of your tank useless when running kessils. personally the only way I would run kessils anymore would be in conjunction with some reefbrite strips or t5's.

10/24/2017, 01:39 AM	#2781
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Well thanks for the help all I went ahead and bought another A360WE today and put on the tank Now I’m happy with how bright the tank is now and have plenty of power for the SPS The shimmer did drop a bit to a point where I am happy The two lights are now 8 inches apart So will drop the intensity and do a acclimatisation mode and see how it goes The lights are only mounted temporary will make a nice bracket to mount them to and hide the cabling Thanks for everyone’s help Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/24/2017, 05:32 AM	#2782
madweazl Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: NOVA Posts: 774	Since you've added a second light, I'd cut the intensity in half for the time being. I think you would have been fine with a single light because you don't have much room for corals to grow out large enough to be a big factor in such a small tank.

10/24/2017, 01:00 PM	#2783
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Actually the tank was not bright enough for my liking with a single unit on 100% The tank has got plenty of room for corals to grow out Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/24/2017, 02:29 PM	#2785
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Yes picking one up today Lights are set to max 40% intensity and in acclimatisation mode Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/24/2017, 02:30 PM	#2786
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Had checked the radion that was taken off and it was running at 62% Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/26/2017, 02:38 AM	#2787
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Ok guys quick question in regards to intensity I purchased a Seneye Reef today to check par With the both lights at 8 inches above the water and corals about 6-8 inches below water at 40% intensity I was getting somewhere around 100-110 par So ramped up the lights to 70% as test and was getting between 225-260 Does this sound about right ? Interested to know what par readings you guys are getting Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/26/2017, 04:01 AM	#2788
Bronx19 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 223	Perfect.

10/26/2017, 05:21 AM	#2789
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	Be careful with acclimatization. I burned a forest fire digitata when it was moved from another tank into mine which is running 2 a360's. Should have started it out at the bottom. I put it right at the top..big mistake.

10/26/2017, 02:24 PM	#2790
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	So has anyone taken par readings and have results? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/26/2017, 03:28 PM	#2792
reeferdude710 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 10	best lights

10/26/2017, 03:30 PM	#2793
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Thanks for the info guys Just trying to get them set right so I don’t loose anything in the swap of lights Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10/26/2017, 03:33 PM	#2794
joecc Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 121	Just curious, what kind of lifespan should one expect for Kessil 360's? Is it wise to buy used?

10/27/2017, 04:06 AM	#2795
knap_123 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: alex city, alabama Posts: 756	Ok, i have a kessil that will turn on. The whites will ramp up and down. The blues will not. They come on at about 10% and thats it. Also the fan is bad. Any suggestions?

10/27/2017, 04:09 AM	#2796
knap_123 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: alex city, alabama Posts: 756	Joecc, I bought 2 360s yesterday. I saved up and had to tell a little lie to my wife. Lol told her they were only $100. Well, 1 don't work correctly. And not sure about the other now. Man, I'm really bummed about the whole experience. I hope kessilc an repair cheaply.

10/27/2017, 05:56 AM	#2797
Bronx19 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 223	I'm reading these stories everywhere now. Units failing straight from the box or on the one year mark. Whats up at Kessil?

10/27/2017, 01:03 PM	#2798
knap_123 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: alex city, alabama Posts: 756	I talked to them. I'm just over the 2 year mark. Not eligible for replacement. Unless I have a receipt. I didn't keep a receipt for over 2 years. So they offered me a service inspection for $100 Plus shipping. And additional charges may apply. Or a new fixture for 290 plus shipping. If rather by sb reeflights

10/27/2017, 02:02 PM	#2799
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	They replaced one for me .. didnt even ask for the old unit back. But it has to be within the 2 yr warranty period.