Chinese LED Lights - Page 114

Aello · 09/08/2013, 08:47 PM

I just orderd 2 of the malibu s200 lights with custom led layout for my 300 gallon mixed reef. If you do a google search they will pop up. Can I get some feed back on what you guys think. My tank is 30" deep but the lowest coral is about 24" I asked for 60 degree optics and went with a 2.5 to 1 blue to white ratio.

asid61 · 09/09/2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Aello

I just orderd 2 of the malibu s200 lights with custom led layout for my 300 gallon mixed reef. If you do a google search they will pop up. Can I get some feed back on what you guys think. My tank is 30" deep but the lowest coral is about 24" I asked for 60 degree optics and went with a 2.5 to 1 blue to white ratio.

Looks okay, but I would go EverGrow or Reef Breeders still. 60* optics sounds good. Maybe a little weak for SPS unless they are the very top of the tank.
Clams are a no-go IMO.

Reef_Breeders · 09/09/2013, 06:54 PM

We ordered one of the Malibus to test out. It looked good on paper, but the light was considerably dimmer than the photon16, about 1/3 less power.

Gillguy · 09/09/2013, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aello

I just orderd 2 of the malibu s200 lights with custom led layout for my 300 gallon mixed reef. If you do a google search they will pop up. Can I get some feed back on what you guys think. My tank is 30" deep but the lowest coral is about 24" I asked for 60 degree optics and went with a 2.5 to 1 blue to white ratio.

That's a really nice light. The programming on it is nice too. Did they charge you extra for the custom layout and what was the total cost with shipping for the two units?

Gillguy · 09/09/2013, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Reef_Breeders

We ordered one of the Malibus to test out. It looked good on paper, but the light was considerably dimmer than the photon16, about 1/3 less power.

Logan which LEDS were on the unit you tested. Cree or Bridgelux?

Aello · 09/09/2013, 07:45 PM

I am interested in which one you went with as well. As for your questions Gillguy, they did not charge me anything extra at all, and they are really easy to work with. The lights were 258 a piece for the s200 which are about 36" long, 50 for the wired controller and shipping was a bit much, 90. But all in all, it's not to bad for custom lights that come with a two year warantee. I like the look of green leds and I like a bit more blue, so I had them change out 18 leds on each light. Like I said I went with 60 degree optics so I hope it works out well. So total in all was right under 700 for everything shipped. I orderd last night and they promised me they would be here by Thursday next week. Not bad being custom made, packaged, shipped, and deliverd from china in less than 2 weeks. And as far as clams, I don't think I will ever have any. And I placed the corals with softies near the bottom and everything else above them, I think the lowest sps or lps is around 20" from the surface. The only thing I am worried about is my anemone he is on the very bottom, but he is so large that I think he should be able to get enough light. And question for you reef breaders do you have any pictures or info like par data on the lights you tested?

Gillguy · 09/09/2013, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aello

I am interested in which one you went with as well. As for your questions Gillguy, they did not charge me anything extra at all, and they are really easy to work with. The lights were 258 a piece for the s200 which are about 36" long, 50 for the wired controller and shipping was a bit much, 90. But all in all, it's not to bad for custom lights that come with a two year warantee. I like the look of green leds and I like a bit more blue, so I had them change out 18 leds on each light. Like I said I went with 60 degree optics so I hope it works out well. So total in all was right under 700 for everything shipped. I orderd last night and they promised me they would be here by Thursday next week. Not bad being custom made, packaged, shipped, and deliverd from china in less than 2 weeks. And as far as clams, I don't think I will ever have any. And I placed the corals with softies near the bottom and everything else above them, I think the lowest sps or lps is around 20" from the surface. The only thing I am worried about is my anemone he is on the very bottom, but he is so large that I think he should be able to get enough light. And question for you reef breaders do you have any pictures or info like par data on the lights you tested?

I think those are going to be really nice on your tank but isn't the S200 four feet in length. It states that it's 120 cm which equals 48 inches.

Aello · 09/09/2013, 08:02 PM

Good eye, they sent me multiple product spec sheets and they have different data on all there models the s200, according to them is 900mm which is 35" the s300 is the 48". If you would like I can send you a product data sheet with all the info and pictures and models. And btw thank you so much for your vote of confidence, I looked for about 3 months to find a light fixture that I thought would work well

asid61 · 09/09/2013, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gillguy

Logan which LEDS were on the unit you tested. Cree or Bridgelux?

I'll bet it's neither. Neither Reef Breeders nor that other one use Cree style chips, and Bridgelux doesn't manufacture those style of white chips.

Aello · 09/09/2013, 08:14 PM

Well, at lest according to the company, they do use bridelux led, and when I asked bridgelux for the info sheets on there leds they showed me they make blue, green and white led, the only led color they don't make, that i had put in my layout is uv.

Gillguy · 09/09/2013, 08:19 PM

Aello, I just sent you an email.

asid61 · 09/09/2013, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Aello

Well, at lest according to the company, they do use bridelux led, and when I asked bridgelux for the info sheets on there leds they showed me they make blue, green and white led, the only led color they don't make, that i had put in my layout is uv.

No, just blue and white: http://www.bridgelux.com/products/ledchips.html
And the latter only comes in large arrays. Anything labeled "Bridgelux" is likely just some random chip.

Aello · 09/09/2013, 08:25 PM

Ok soon as I get it I will email you back

Aello · 09/09/2013, 08:29 PM

Asid61 look at there website, they say they produce blue, green and white. I am not trying to say your wrong, or start an argument, I just asked them and that's what they say. If you go to there website, click on products, then click on led chips and read the info above the product list it says what they make.

asid61 · 09/09/2013, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aello

Asid61 look at there website, they say they produce blue, green and white. I am not trying to say your wrong, or start an argument, I just asked them and that's what they say. If you go to there website, click on products, then click on led chips and read the info above the product list it says what they make.

Bridgelux.com, right? Could you link me to one of the red or green pages? I must have skipped over it.

Aello · 09/09/2013, 08:43 PM

Emailed you two of the product sheets Gillguy feel free to ask anything I know I probably annoyed the company with how many questions I was asking

Gillguy · 09/09/2013, 08:57 PM

Thank you got it.

asid61 · 09/09/2013, 09:10 PM

Datasheets are only for blue, 445-465nm.

In any case, the lights look okay. I'm sure they'll work for you, but getting another one might be to your advantage.
They definitely look sleek.

Aello · 09/09/2013, 09:25 PM

Do you mean another set so 4 total or just one more of the 36" ones? I orderd 2 of them, so I hope it gives me a good amount of brightness, with a nice color and par. That's the thing with leds I guess, with MH you have like 4 options then adding acentic lights, with led you have a million options to choose from and then some

Aello · 09/09/2013, 11:41 PM

Another question for you more experienced led reefers. My LFS recommended 3 of the ecoray 112d for my 30" deep 300 gallon reef. I did some reading that light only uses 1w led, and on the display tank at the store, wetpets, the light is bright even at the bottom with the lights at least 18" + from the water, do you think I will be able to get about the same amount of bright light on top of the PAR

Mikefromaz · 09/10/2013, 12:00 AM

Hello all, I'm setting up a new reef tank. This one is not too large, a 30 gal. with a 20 gal sump. I ran an 80 gal. for years with 300 W. of CFL's and had a lot of fun and success with my corals. I have been out of reefing just long enough to have no experience with LED systems. I am leaning toward a 10k 120 W. Maxpect Razor, hoping to keep sps, Lps, and softies. My tank is a pretty generic 30 in. I am trying to avoid "spot lite" effect with dark corners. Any opinions on this setup, especially how far above the water is recommended for the light height would really be appreciated. Thanks!

Hokies83 · 09/10/2013, 12:13 AM

See the 4 foot light but where is the 6 foot light at?

Hmm wonder if 2 of these would light up a 72 long 24 wide 30 high tank?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pack-EVO-3...-/110990350523

Have one on my 55 gallon corals are doing great.

Aello · 09/10/2013, 12:30 AM

Honkies83 Are you asking about the malibu s200 lights? I am just using 2 of the 36" lights, and I don't think those lights will work for your tank, leds need optics to get down 30" and far as I can tell those dont have any your tank is very similar to mine, I would recommend 60 degree optics for the depth. And mikefromaz it all depends on the level of light. If you set your led lights to 20% you can have the fixture alot closer than if you had it at 100%. The best advice I can give is hang your lights where they look good and you can still reach into the tank easily, and then slowly ramp up the brightness, until your corals respond well. If you take it slowly enough, you will see your corals response. If they bleach you have got too much light back it down. And just be ware that led lots put out alot more usable lights that corals use, but your eyes may not. Your tank might not be as bright as if you had cfl but there is more usable light for the corals

Ron Reefman · 09/10/2013, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by asid61

I'll bet it's neither. Neither Reef Breeders nor that other one use Cree style chips, and Bridgelux doesn't manufacture those style of white chips.

We all get it asid, but 2/3rds of the fixture manufacturers say they use Bridgelux leds. Maybe they are and maybe they aren't, but at this point nobody really cares because they work just fine. They may not be as efficient as Cree or put out as much light, but they work and I can't run my fixture at 100% anyway and it's WAY more efficient than my old leds.

Aello · 09/10/2013, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ron Reefman

We all get it asid, but 2/3rds of the fixture manufacturers say they use Bridgelux leds. Maybe they are and maybe they aren't, but at this point nobody really cares because they work just fine. They may not be as efficient as Cree or put out as much light, but they work and I can't run my fixture at 100% anyway and it's WAY more efficient than my old leds.

Hey Ron if you don't mind me asking, what leds are your running, and what did you upgrade from

09/08/2013, 08:47 PM	#2826
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	What do you experienced led reefers think of these I just orderd 2 of the malibu s200 lights with custom led layout for my 300 gallon mixed reef. If you do a google search they will pop up. Can I get some feed back on what you guys think. My tank is 30" deep but the lowest coral is about 24" I asked for 60 degree optics and went with a 2.5 to 1 blue to white ratio.

09/09/2013, 07:45 PM	#2831
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	I am interested in which one you went with as well. As for your questions Gillguy, they did not charge me anything extra at all, and they are really easy to work with. The lights were 258 a piece for the s200 which are about 36" long, 50 for the wired controller and shipping was a bit much, 90. But all in all, it's not to bad for custom lights that come with a two year warantee. I like the look of green leds and I like a bit more blue, so I had them change out 18 leds on each light. Like I said I went with 60 degree optics so I hope it works out well. So total in all was right under 700 for everything shipped. I orderd last night and they promised me they would be here by Thursday next week. Not bad being custom made, packaged, shipped, and deliverd from china in less than 2 weeks. And as far as clams, I don't think I will ever have any. And I placed the corals with softies near the bottom and everything else above them, I think the lowest sps or lps is around 20" from the surface. The only thing I am worried about is my anemone he is on the very bottom, but he is so large that I think he should be able to get enough light. And question for you reef breaders do you have any pictures or info like par data on the lights you tested? Last edited by Aello; 09/09/2013 at 07:51 PM.

09/09/2013, 08:19 PM	#2836
Gillguy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plantation, FL Posts: 558	Aello, I just sent you an email. __________________ 120 gallon 60x18x26 mixed reef, Ledzeal LED Fixture & T5, Reef Octopus 150 skimmer, Jebao DC 9000 pump, 30 gallon Berlin style sump with refugium

09/09/2013, 08:57 PM	#2842
Gillguy Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Plantation, FL Posts: 558	Thank you got it. __________________ 120 gallon 60x18x26 mixed reef, Ledzeal LED Fixture & T5, Reef Octopus 150 skimmer, Jebao DC 9000 pump, 30 gallon Berlin style sump with refugium

09/10/2013, 12:00 AM	#2846
Mikefromaz Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arizona (well it was an ocean once :) Posts: 319	Looking for opinions on Maxspect LED units Hello all, I'm setting up a new reef tank. This one is not too large, a 30 gal. with a 20 gal sump. I ran an 80 gal. for years with 300 W. of CFL's and had a lot of fun and success with my corals. I have been out of reefing just long enough to have no experience with LED systems. I am leaning toward a 10k 120 W. Maxpect Razor, hoping to keep sps, Lps, and softies. My tank is a pretty generic 30 in. I am trying to avoid "spot lite" effect with dark corners. Any opinions on this setup, especially how far above the water is recommended for the light height would really be appreciated. Thanks!

09/09/2013, 06:54 PM	#2828
Reef_Breeders Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 226	We ordered one of the Malibus to test out. It looked good on paper, but the light was considerably dimmer than the photon16, about 1/3 less power.

09/09/2013, 08:02 PM	#2833
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Good eye, they sent me multiple product spec sheets and they have different data on all there models the s200, according to them is 900mm which is 35" the s300 is the 48". If you would like I can send you a product data sheet with all the info and pictures and models. And btw thank you so much for your vote of confidence, I looked for about 3 months to find a light fixture that I thought would work well

09/09/2013, 08:14 PM	#2835
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Well, at lest according to the company, they do use bridelux led, and when I asked bridgelux for the info sheets on there leds they showed me they make blue, green and white led, the only led color they don't make, that i had put in my layout is uv.

09/09/2013, 08:25 PM	#2838
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Ok soon as I get it I will email you back

09/09/2013, 08:29 PM	#2839
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Asid61 look at there website, they say they produce blue, green and white. I am not trying to say your wrong, or start an argument, I just asked them and that's what they say. If you go to there website, click on products, then click on led chips and read the info above the product list it says what they make.

09/09/2013, 08:43 PM	#2841
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Emailed you two of the product sheets Gillguy feel free to ask anything I know I probably annoyed the company with how many questions I was asking

09/09/2013, 09:10 PM	#2843
asid61 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Cupertino, CA Posts: 1,111	Datasheets are only for blue, 445-465nm. In any case, the lights look okay. I'm sure they'll work for you, but getting another one might be to your advantage. They definitely look sleek.

09/09/2013, 09:25 PM	#2844
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Do you mean another set so 4 total or just one more of the 36" ones? I orderd 2 of them, so I hope it gives me a good amount of brightness, with a nice color and par. That's the thing with leds I guess, with MH you have like 4 options then adding acentic lights, with led you have a million options to choose from and then some

09/09/2013, 11:41 PM	#2845
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Another question for you more experienced led reefers. My LFS recommended 3 of the ecoray 112d for my 30" deep 300 gallon reef. I did some reading that light only uses 1w led, and on the display tank at the store, wetpets, the light is bright even at the bottom with the lights at least 18" + from the water, do you think I will be able to get about the same amount of bright light on top of the PAR

09/10/2013, 12:13 AM	#2847
Hokies83 Moved On Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Roanoke Va Posts: 347	See the 4 foot light but where is the 6 foot light at? Hmm wonder if 2 of these would light up a 72 long 24 wide 30 high tank? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Pack-EVO-3...-/110990350523 Have one on my 55 gallon corals are doing great.

09/10/2013, 12:30 AM	#2848
Aello Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Blairsville Pa Posts: 101	Honkies83 Are you asking about the malibu s200 lights? I am just using 2 of the 36" lights, and I don't think those lights will work for your tank, leds need optics to get down 30" and far as I can tell those dont have any your tank is very similar to mine, I would recommend 60 degree optics for the depth. And mikefromaz it all depends on the level of light. If you set your led lights to 20% you can have the fixture alot closer than if you had it at 100%. The best advice I can give is hang your lights where they look good and you can still reach into the tank easily, and then slowly ramp up the brightness, until your corals respond well. If you take it slowly enough, you will see your corals response. If they bleach you have got too much light back it down. And just be ware that led lots put out alot more usable lights that corals use, but your eyes may not. Your tank might not be as bright as if you had cfl but there is more usable light for the corals Last edited by Aello; 09/10/2013 at 12:45 AM.