Kessil Club - Page 114

muz_z · 11/16/2017, 03:25 AM

Lights are working great

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ComforablyNumb · 11/17/2017, 08:19 PM

Yours is only a month old. No problem.

constexpr · 11/28/2017, 07:19 PM

Hey all. I'm getting back into the hobby after many years out. When I was exiting the hobby LED lights weren't even a blip on the radar.

For an exclusively SPS and Tridacna clam 24x24x20 tank would the recommended layout be 2x A360WEs front to back or side to side? Thanks.

smatter · 11/28/2017, 09:33 PM

Side by side. You could aim them slightly inward if you wanted.

madweazl · 11/29/2017, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by constexpr

Hey all. I'm getting back into the hobby after many years out. When I was exiting the hobby LED lights weren't even a blip on the radar.

For an exclusively SPS and Tridacna clam 24x24x20 tank would the recommended layout be 2x A360WEs front to back or side to side? Thanks.

I'd orient them in a manner that best lights whatever aquascape you come up with.

Thor2j · 11/29/2017, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by constexpr

Hey all. I'm getting back into the hobby after many years out. When I was exiting the hobby LED lights weren't even a blip on the radar.

For an exclusively SPS and Tridacna clam 24x24x20 tank would the recommended layout be 2x A360WEs front to back or side to side? Thanks.

AP700 would be better if u haven't bought them yet

ComforablyNumb · 11/29/2017, 11:09 PM

The Ap700 is 36" long .. his tank is 24"

AP is a great light, but not that great for this application.
With 2 360's, he could move them wherever the light was needed.

muz_z · 11/29/2017, 11:10 PM

The AP700 fits in my hood on a 2ft cube it’s not 36” long

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muz_z · 11/29/2017, 11:11 PM

Here is the spec 20” long

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ComforablyNumb · 11/29/2017, 11:17 PM

"The Ap700 is 36" long .. his tank is 24".

I should have said the Ap700 coverage is 36" long. Left out coverage, so yeah, my bad for the omission.

Single AP700 Maximum Coverage

36"x 24" at 7" above water level
48" x 24" at 18" above water level

*edit: he's going to have a fair amount of spillover his tank being 24".
This can more easily be avoided with twin 360's

Sgchick · 11/30/2017, 06:53 AM

Hi everyone! I'm getting back into corals, been running a fowlr tank for four years. I have a w360 over a 29" biocube and thinking of adding the new aquatic T5 hybrid light....https://youtu.be/AB0TKyKxlSo Has anyone tried this new light? Seems to be getting some great reviews.

Hoping to grow some SPS and softies :-)

ktownhero · 11/30/2017, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Ssteve

it also depends on your aquascape, types of corals etc. I ran a 350 over a biocube and had shadow issues, then I ran two 360's and a 150 over a 65g and had shadowing issues so I added t5's, then I ran 4 360's and two 160's over a 120g and had shadowing issues. just one single monti cap can render a massive amount of your tank useless when running kessils. personally the only way I would run kessils anymore would be in conjunction with some reefbrite strips or t5's.

With all due respect, what magic light exists that penetrates through a monti cap?

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ktownhero · 11/30/2017, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

"The Ap700 is 36" long .. his tank is 24".

I should have said the Ap700 coverage is 36" long. Left out coverage, so yeah, my bad for the omission.

Single AP700 Maximum Coverage

36"x 24" at 7" above water level
48" x 24" at 18" above water level

*edit: he's going to have a fair amount of spillover his tank being 24".
This can more easily be avoided with twin 360's

The AP700 can cover 4' much lower than 18". I keep mine at 12" but I've had it as low as 9" before with full coverage.

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Thor2j · 11/30/2017, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

The Ap700 is 36" long .. his tank is 24"

AP is a great light, but not that great for this application.
With 2 360's, he could move them wherever the light was needed.

Wrong. I have 2 on a 59" tank, 8 inches above, almost no spillover. 1 ap700 is better then 2 360s almost always

ktownhero · 11/30/2017, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thor2j

Wrong. I have 2 on a 59" tank, 8 inches above, almost no spillover. 1 ap700 is better then 2 360s almost always

Yup. The AP700 is unequivocally better than 2x360s; better spectrum, better spread, stronger light (due to better clusters and reflectors) and fully controllable out of the box.

smatter · 11/30/2017, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ktownhero

Yup. The AP700 is unequivocally better than 2x360s; better spectrum, better spread, stronger light (due to better clusters and reflectors) and fully controllable out of the box.

Better spectrum, why? Because one can control individual colors and there's some red and green in there? Kessil should put one of those clusters and reflectors into the 360 form factor, now that would be something.

ComforablyNumb · 11/30/2017, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Thor2j

Wrong. I have 2 on a 59" tank, 8 inches above, almost no spillover. 1 ap700 is better then 2 360s almost always

Thats because your tank is nearly 5 ft long.

His is 2 ft long. At 7" he is undoubtedly going to have a ton of spillover.

muz_z · 11/30/2017, 07:29 PM

I have mine 8” on a 2ft with not a lot of spill over

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constexpr · 11/30/2017, 07:30 PM

Thanks guys I'll look into the AP700 as well!

Thor2j · 11/30/2017, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

Thats because your tank is nearly 5 ft long.

His is 2 ft long. At 7" he is undoubtedly going to have a ton of spillover.

It's less then 6" difference per light. Lower it to 6" and he will have no spillover.

madweazl · 12/01/2017, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Thor2j

Wrong. I have 2 on a 59" tank, 8 inches above, almost no spillover. 1 ap700 is better then 2 360s almost always

I run A360s over my 75g and am doing it again on the 150g build; I wont use the AP700 because the modules are at a fixed distance where as I can arrange the A360s in any fashion I want to. They (AP700) offer no better light in regard to the needs of the coral over an A360. While the light may work well for you, on a 24" long tank the A360s are a better option because of the mounting flexibility alone. For what it's worth, there is no situation where I'd take the AP700 over the A360.

ComforablyNumb · 12/01/2017, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by muz_z

I have mine 8” on a 2ft with not a lot of spill over

Define "not a lot". Would that be because you have yours mounted in a hood?

"36"x 24" at 7" above water level"
Sounds to me like there would be a fair amount of spillover on a 24" tank .. at 8" even more ..no?

muz_z · 12/01/2017, 03:57 AM

I can actually see I very minimal amount of spill due to the hood
I will grab a pic for you to see
As mentioned above did he lowered a little more he would have next to none

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ComforablyNumb · 12/01/2017, 04:08 AM

It would be interesting to see your hood, for sure. Please post it as I am sure others would like to see it as well as myself. I have been playing with the idea of mounting mine in a fixture that combines t5's.

I would say why you dont see much spillover is because you have yours installed inside a hood. Its the only logical explanation.

11/16/2017, 03:25 AM	#2826
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Kessil Club Lights are working great Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Last edited by muz_z; 11/19/2017 at 06:38 PM.

11/29/2017, 11:17 PM	#2836
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	"The Ap700 is 36" long .. his tank is 24". I should have said the Ap700 coverage is 36" long. Left out coverage, so yeah, my bad for the omission. Single AP700 Maximum Coverage 36"x 24" at 7" above water level 48" x 24" at 18" above water level edit: he's going to have a fair amount of spillover his tank being 24". This can more easily be avoided with twin 360's Last edited by ComforablyNumb; 11/29/2017 at 11:55 PM.*

11/17/2017, 08:19 PM	#2827
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	Yours is only a month old. No problem.

11/28/2017, 07:19 PM	#2828
constexpr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 2	Hey all. I'm getting back into the hobby after many years out. When I was exiting the hobby LED lights weren't even a blip on the radar. For an exclusively SPS and Tridacna clam 24x24x20 tank would the recommended layout be 2x A360WEs front to back or side to side? Thanks.

11/28/2017, 09:33 PM	#2829
smatter Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,055	Side by side. You could aim them slightly inward if you wanted.

11/29/2017, 11:09 PM	#2832
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	The Ap700 is 36" long .. his tank is 24" AP is a great light, but not that great for this application. With 2 360's, he could move them wherever the light was needed.

11/29/2017, 11:10 PM	#2833
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	The AP700 fits in my hood on a 2ft cube it’s not 36” long Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/29/2017, 11:11 PM	#2834
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Here is the spec 20” long Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/29/2017, 11:12 PM	#2835
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/30/2017, 06:53 AM	#2837
Sgchick Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Soulsbyville, CA Posts: 77	Hi everyone! I'm getting back into corals, been running a fowlr tank for four years. I have a w360 over a 29" biocube and thinking of adding the new aquatic T5 hybrid light....https://youtu.be/AB0TKyKxlSo Has anyone tried this new light? Seems to be getting some great reviews. Hoping to grow some SPS and softies :-)

11/30/2017, 07:29 PM	#2844
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	I have mine 8” on a 2ft with not a lot of spill over Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11/30/2017, 07:30 PM	#2845
constexpr Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 2	Thanks guys I'll look into the AP700 as well!

12/01/2017, 03:57 AM	#2849
muz_z Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Sydney Australia Posts: 92	I can actually see I very minimal amount of spill due to the hood I will grab a pic for you to see As mentioned above did he lowered a little more he would have next to none Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

12/01/2017, 04:08 AM	#2850
ComforablyNumb Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: New Brunswick Canada Posts: 627	It would be interesting to see your hood, for sure. Please post it as I am sure others would like to see it as well as myself. I have been playing with the idea of mounting mine in a fixture that combines t5's. I would say why you dont see much spillover is because you have yours installed inside a hood. Its the only logical explanation.