chinese led lights - Page 116

Dobbs1101 · 07/13/2012, 09:39 AM

Thanks for the nice compliments. The tank is a 30g all in one, false back with skimmer, pump and refugium. I've had the tank for 5+ years and rebuilt the tank last year after a crash. The overflow RO/DI ran overnight when the float valve failed... Doh!

The light ratio is almost 1:1 30blue and 25 white. I actually like that combo. I might just keep that ratio but maybe add 2 red, 2 green and 2 violet for the next 2 lights I'll be getting. Again it's for my 120g SPS tank

Here's a video of my 120g
http://youtu.be/MaoMfQmz-0E

The skimmer is a Tunze 9002

Mr Neon · 07/13/2012, 09:42 AM

I got the d120 right now and it looks great but I am thinking of going with Simon and Twilight led panel after talking to him on the programmable led with moonlights.

Sam does not have a model like that but offered to send me other colored leds to swap out. He is sending me warm whites and the 420nm violets for free. Just not sure how easy or hard it would be to take the leds out and put the other ones in.

Has anyone bought the programmable models yet? Seems I can customize the different whites, blues and violets as needed, plus having a programmable feature of sunrise/sunset and moonlights makes it nice if the price is right.

Simon got back to me with the following:

OK, I understand you requirement.

For the lay out of leds in the lamp, I have some questions.

We have blue 460nm / 430~440nm; violet 400~410nm; these spectrums are best for aquarium, maybe have no 420nm.

Another question, for led quantity of each channel, one channel must be 27pcs leds; one channel must be 25pcs leds and third channel must be 3pcs leds.

so I suggest following lay out:

1> First channel
bright whites 10,000k----14pcs
warm whites 6500k---4pcs
blue 430~440nm---------7pcs

2> Second channel
blue 460nm-----20pcs
blue 430~440nm------4pcs
violet 400nm~410nm-----3pcs

3> Third channel (moonlight)
blue 460nm-----3pcs

What do you think of it?

We use big size 45mil 3watt Epistar leds in the lamp, with Fins heatsink and 3pcs fans to remove all heat.

you don't need optics or lens, just the leds beam angle is 90degree, correct?

Waiting for your kind confirming again, and talk with you more soon, such as the exact price.

Take care and many thanks

ghrorick · 07/13/2012, 09:49 AM

Got a tracking number from Hendy and one from Aliexpress. I used Hendys yesterday to see where my lights were and in said they were out with courier in Boston. I thought wow that guy must have alot of stop between Boston MA and Jasper Michigan!! Looked at the tracking number Aliexpress gave me and they were held up in Cincinnati for a day being"processed." Now they are on the way from Dayton (still a nice drive). Don't know why they sent out from there instead of Grand Rapids like they normally do. Hopefully they are in today.

mlott132 · 07/13/2012, 09:57 AM

Dobbs, where did you get the bracket to hang your light?

bluesox_68blues · 07/13/2012, 10:08 AM

Again dobbs looks great, I think I screwed up and mine will be too blue

This is mine http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/108940417.html but I have optics because my tank is a 40 tall.
I just checked the shipping status and it said its with delivery courier. Does that mean I should get it today? If this is way to blue for me how hard would it be to swap out some blue led's for whites down the road?

Thanks

Dobbs1101 · 07/13/2012, 10:12 AM

The bracket I made myself. It's made from 3/4'' conduit and I used a pipe bender to make the bends. Easy to make and very sturdy

Here's a video of how to make it. I didn't make the video.. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33_EPDciEAs

mlott132 · 07/13/2012, 11:19 AM

That timer is on the lights I just purchased.

bhazard451 · 07/13/2012, 11:35 AM

I'm interested in comparing it to the other fixtures I've tried. I also bought an Apollo Reef Led fixture. I need to see the differences in a quality bridgelux bin, versus a generic chinese one.

Once I get it, I'll have my Reefbreeders one for sale. That one helped me see that adding a few reds increases coloring, at the expense of possibly growing nuisance algae quicker.

biecacka · 07/13/2012, 12:00 PM

Bhazard, won't the controller be able to dim the lights in place of a dimmer?
Corey

bhazard451 · 07/13/2012, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by biecacka

Bhazard, won't the controller be able to dim the lights in place of a dimmer?
Corey

Yes. It is the dimmer.

Zoanut · 07/13/2012, 01:17 PM

Alright just about to order mine and this is what I have so far:

OK, aluminium case, 60 degree optics, 3 channels.
1> First channel for white (mix of 6500k and 10000k) 25pcs
2> Second chanel for blue and royal blue 27pcs
3> Third channel for moonlight (royal blue) 3pcs

Just one thing to bear in mind, I was talking to Simon and he told me that there Royal Blues are 460nm and Blues are 440nm but I think they have that around the wrong way cause the Crees are the other way around. Also The maximun Amps for each leds is 700ma, but the real current is 630ma, so the the wattage of the whole lamp is 120w. I have worked it out and this is going ro cost me $300 including shipping to New Zealand which is $82 USD. Not sure if you guys get it for free or not but if you do just the light by itself is $218.

bhazard451 · 07/13/2012, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoanut

Alright just about to order mine and this is what I have so far:

OK, aluminium case, 60 degree optics, 3 channels.
1> First channel for white (mix of 6500k and 10000k) 25pcs
2> Second chanel for blue and royal blue 27pcs
3> Third channel for moonlight (royal blue) 3pcs

Just one thing to bear in mind, I was talking to Simon and he told me that there Royal Blues are 460nm and Blues are 440nm but I think they have that around the wrong way cause the Crees are the other way around. Also The maximun Amps for each leds is 700ma, but the real current is 630ma, so the the wattage of the whole lamp is 120w. I have worked it out and this is going ro cost me $300 including shipping to New Zealand which is $82 USD. Not sure if you guys get it for free or not but if you do just the light by itself is $218.

Add 4 violets to the white channel. 420nm is optimal, but they only have 400nm, which is somewhat ok. Royal Blue is around 440-460. Cool Blue is usually around 470-480nm. Go with both blues anyway, wont hurt.

Shipping is $59 to the US.

Zoanut · 07/13/2012, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhazard451

Add 4 violets to the white channel. 420nm is optimal, but they only have 400nm, which is somewhat ok. Royal Blue is around 440-460. Cool Blue is usually around 470-480nm. Go with both blues anyway, wont hurt.

Shipping is $59 to the US.

The reason I haven't gone with any Actinics is that I already have a DIY bridgelux fixture and TBH think that LED Actinics are a waste of time as I don't find them very bright or giving a pop to my corals (I have 10 on there own driver). I will be using 2 x ATI True Actinic T5HOs to supplment my LEDs.

bhazard451 · 07/13/2012, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoanut

The reason I haven't gone with any Actinics is that I already have a DIY bridgelux fixture and TBH think that LED Actinics are a waste of time as I don't find them very bright or giving a pop to my corals (I have 10 on there own driver). I will be using 2 x ATI True Actinic T5HOs to supplment my LEDs.

That would look pretty awesome. A LED/T5 actinic combo is great if you have the space for it. Would look awkward for me to hang both though.

Chicago · 07/13/2012, 02:30 PM

what the diff between royal blue and blue.. should we try and do both.. in a unit

Zoanut · 07/13/2012, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicago

what the diff between royal blue and blue.. should we try and do both.. in a unit

They are different colour spectrums. Royal Blue is around 440-460. Cool Blue is usually around 470-480nm as stated by bhazard451 and it covers the entire blue spectrum which corals use to grow along with others. In short no you don't need them however I would say yes you should have them in. All the top end LED fixtures have both. In saying that I have only had Royal Blues in my DIY fixture for 7 months or so and have had good results with my SPS and Zoos.

Chicago · 07/13/2012, 03:00 PM

OK SO ON THE BLUES.. sorry ... for blues.. do a 2:1 maybe.. royal to cool blue.

bhazard451 · 07/13/2012, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicago

OK SO ON THE BLUES.. sorry ... for blues.. do a 2:1 maybe.. royal to cool blue.

You're worrying too much. Look at a Radion or Maxspect to get ideas for coloring.

Aside from Royal Blue, Whites, and Violets (420nm actinic), all the other colors are mostly for visual appeal. They do nothing for your coral or fish, aside from enhancing a few colors. Use very few, and try not to sacrifice too many whites or royal blues for them. I would use 2 blue tops if you are using other colors.

Zoanut · 07/13/2012, 03:17 PM

Not sure on the ratio myself but I'm getting a few more royal blue than blue LEDs.

Zoanut · 07/13/2012, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bhazard451

You're worrying too much. Look at a Radion or Maxspect to get ideas for coloring.

Aside from Royal Blue, Whites, and Violets (420nm actinic), all the other colors are mostly for visual appeal. They do nothing for your coral or fish, aside from enhancing a few colors. Use very few, and try not to sacrifice too many whites or royal blues for them. I would use 2 blue tops if you are using other colors.

And to add to that if you are using 10k for whites you might want to use a little less royal blues cause if the epistar LEDs are like the bridgelux the 10k whites are a little blue.

biecacka · 07/13/2012, 03:53 PM

Bhazard, if the controller is a dimmer do I need a third dimmer or is 2 ok?
Corey

Chicago · 07/13/2012, 03:58 PM

actually doing 14k. so thinking now of more 1 to 1 ratio .. yes i am overthinking this way to much

Chicago · 07/13/2012, 04:08 PM

thanks bhazzard.. done thinking about this.. this thread the more i read it the more i think about this.. sounds like a commercial

pulling tigger on this.. will let you know how the 80pcs in the unit fit and work with 60 optics

Painted aluminium black or white is ok.. NO IRON..

80 led bridgelux or epistare right.. 3 watt.

3 channels.. same as the 120

optics 60 degree

internal lcd to controll timmer and dimmer

hanging kit

basically same as unit we were looking at to start. but doing 80leds

3channels as follows

1. channel 3 royal blue for moon lights WITH 60 DEGREE OPTICS

2. channel 34 royal blues WITH 60 DEGREE OPTICS

3. channel 29 whites 14000k, 4 whites 10000k 2 red 630, 2 green 515, 2 orange 610, 2 violet 440, 2 uv 400 WITH 60 DEGREE OPTICS

cec09 · 07/13/2012, 05:36 PM

Got mine light in today. Very fast shipping. Customs opened it and forgot to put one of the power cords back though. Boo. Just running the blues now. Im very happy with it. Talked to Sam and it will be on the way this monday.

bhazard451 · 07/13/2012, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cec09

Got mine light in today. Very fast shipping. Customs opened it and forgot to put one of the power cords back though. Boo. Just running the blues now. Im very happy with it. Talked to Sam and it will be on the way this monday.

Wouldn't you be able to use a PC power cord in the meantime?

07/13/2012, 09:39 AM	#2876
Dobbs1101 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ Posts: 95	Thanks for the nice compliments. The tank is a 30g all in one, false back with skimmer, pump and refugium. I've had the tank for 5+ years and rebuilt the tank last year after a crash. The overflow RO/DI ran overnight when the float valve failed... Doh! The light ratio is almost 1:1 30blue and 25 white. I actually like that combo. I might just keep that ratio but maybe add 2 red, 2 green and 2 violet for the next 2 lights I'll be getting. Again it's for my 120g SPS tank Here's a video of my 120g http://youtu.be/MaoMfQmz-0E The skimmer is a Tunze 9002 __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!" "really explore the studio space this time." Current Tank Info: 120g RR SPS Tank, 40g sump, Reef Breaders Photon Led Light, Vortech M40's, Vertex i180 Skimmer, MRC Dual Calcium Reactor with Carbon Doser CO2 regulator, Mag 9 Return Last edited by Dobbs1101; 07/13/2012 at 10:09 AM.

07/13/2012, 09:57 AM	#2879
mlott132 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NWI Posts: 697	Dobbs, where did you get the bracket to hang your light? __________________ 75 Gallon mixed reef, Trigger Systems Ruby 30S, Lifereef SVS3-24 Skimmer, Eheim 1262, 2x AI Vega LED Lights, 1x Jebao RW-8 powerhead, 1x Ecotech MP-40 powerhead

07/13/2012, 10:12 AM	#2881
Dobbs1101 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ Posts: 95	The bracket I made myself. It's made from 3/4'' conduit and I used a pipe bender to make the bends. Easy to make and very sturdy Here's a video of how to make it. I didn't make the video.. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33_EPDciEAs __________________ "Guess what?! I've got a fever, and the only prescription... is more cowbell!" "really explore the studio space this time." Current Tank Info: 120g RR SPS Tank, 40g sump, Reef Breaders Photon Led Light, Vortech M40's, Vertex i180 Skimmer, MRC Dual Calcium Reactor with Carbon Doser CO2 regulator, Mag 9 Return

07/13/2012, 11:19 AM	#2882
mlott132 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NWI Posts: 697	That timer is on the lights I just purchased. __________________ 75 Gallon mixed reef, Trigger Systems Ruby 30S, Lifereef SVS3-24 Skimmer, Eheim 1262, 2x AI Vega LED Lights, 1x Jebao RW-8 powerhead, 1x Ecotech MP-40 powerhead

07/13/2012, 02:30 PM	#2890
Chicago Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: earth Posts: 3,218	what the diff between royal blue and blue.. should we try and do both.. in a unit __________________ "If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will" ..famous poet.. Current Tank Info: 500 gal starphire, reef sps dominated, 40 plus fish, 300 gallon sump in basement below, reeftek calcium reactor, reeftek kalkwasser reactor, lifeguard fluidized filter for rowaphose, 4 400MH 10k xm, 2 160 vho super attinic, DYI 50 gallon denitrator

07/13/2012, 09:42 AM	#2877
Mr Neon Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 323	I got the d120 right now and it looks great but I am thinking of going with Simon and Twilight led panel after talking to him on the programmable led with moonlights. Sam does not have a model like that but offered to send me other colored leds to swap out. He is sending me warm whites and the 420nm violets for free. Just not sure how easy or hard it would be to take the leds out and put the other ones in. Has anyone bought the programmable models yet? Seems I can customize the different whites, blues and violets as needed, plus having a programmable feature of sunrise/sunset and moonlights makes it nice if the price is right. Simon got back to me with the following: OK, I understand you requirement. For the lay out of leds in the lamp, I have some questions. We have blue 460nm / 430~440nm; violet 400~410nm; these spectrums are best for aquarium, maybe have no 420nm. Another question, for led quantity of each channel, one channel must be 27pcs leds; one channel must be 25pcs leds and third channel must be 3pcs leds. so I suggest following lay out: 1> First channel bright whites 10,000k----14pcs warm whites 6500k---4pcs blue 430~440nm---------7pcs 2> Second channel blue 460nm-----20pcs blue 430~440nm------4pcs violet 400nm~410nm-----3pcs 3> Third channel (moonlight) blue 460nm-----3pcs What do you think of it? We use big size 45mil 3watt Epistar leds in the lamp, with Fins heatsink and 3pcs fans to remove all heat. you don't need optics or lens, just the leds beam angle is 90degree, correct? Waiting for your kind confirming again, and talk with you more soon, such as the exact price. Take care and many thanks

07/13/2012, 09:49 AM	#2878
ghrorick Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: michigan Posts: 62	Got a tracking number from Hendy and one from Aliexpress. I used Hendys yesterday to see where my lights were and in said they were out with courier in Boston. I thought wow that guy must have alot of stop between Boston MA and Jasper Michigan!! Looked at the tracking number Aliexpress gave me and they were held up in Cincinnati for a day being"processed." Now they are on the way from Dayton (still a nice drive). Don't know why they sent out from there instead of Grand Rapids like they normally do. Hopefully they are in today.

07/13/2012, 10:08 AM	#2880
bluesox_68blues Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Paris ON, Canada Posts: 35	Again dobbs looks great, I think I screwed up and mine will be too blue This is mine http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/108940417.html but I have optics because my tank is a 40 tall. I just checked the shipping status and it said its with delivery courier. Does that mean I should get it today? If this is way to blue for me how hard would it be to swap out some blue led's for whites down the road? Thanks

07/13/2012, 11:35 AM	#2883
bhazard451 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,900	I'm interested in comparing it to the other fixtures I've tried. I also bought an Apollo Reef Led fixture. I need to see the differences in a quality bridgelux bin, versus a generic chinese one. Once I get it, I'll have my Reefbreeders one for sale. That one helped me see that adding a few reds increases coloring, at the expense of possibly growing nuisance algae quicker.

07/13/2012, 12:00 PM	#2884
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Bhazard, won't the controller be able to dim the lights in place of a dimmer? Corey

07/13/2012, 01:17 PM	#2886
Zoanut Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 317	Alright just about to order mine and this is what I have so far: OK, aluminium case, 60 degree optics, 3 channels. 1> First channel for white (mix of 6500k and 10000k) 25pcs 2> Second chanel for blue and royal blue 27pcs 3> Third channel for moonlight (royal blue) 3pcs Just one thing to bear in mind, I was talking to Simon and he told me that there Royal Blues are 460nm and Blues are 440nm but I think they have that around the wrong way cause the Crees are the other way around. Also The maximun Amps for each leds is 700ma, but the real current is 630ma, so the the wattage of the whole lamp is 120w. I have worked it out and this is going ro cost me $300 including shipping to New Zealand which is $82 USD. Not sure if you guys get it for free or not but if you do just the light by itself is $218.

07/13/2012, 03:00 PM	#2892
Chicago Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: earth Posts: 3,218	OK SO ON THE BLUES.. sorry ... for blues.. do a 2:1 maybe.. royal to cool blue. __________________ "If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will" ..famous poet.. Current Tank Info: 500 gal starphire, reef sps dominated, 40 plus fish, 300 gallon sump in basement below, reeftek calcium reactor, reeftek kalkwasser reactor, lifeguard fluidized filter for rowaphose, 4 400MH 10k xm, 2 160 vho super attinic, DYI 50 gallon denitrator

07/13/2012, 03:17 PM	#2894
Zoanut Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New Zealand Posts: 317	Not sure on the ratio myself but I'm getting a few more royal blue than blue LEDs.

07/13/2012, 03:53 PM	#2896
biecacka Registered Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Columbus Ohio Posts: 6,361	Bhazard, if the controller is a dimmer do I need a third dimmer or is 2 ok? Corey

07/13/2012, 03:58 PM	#2897
Chicago Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: earth Posts: 3,218	actually doing 14k. so thinking now of more 1 to 1 ratio .. yes i am overthinking this way to much __________________ "If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will" ..famous poet.. Current Tank Info: 500 gal starphire, reef sps dominated, 40 plus fish, 300 gallon sump in basement below, reeftek calcium reactor, reeftek kalkwasser reactor, lifeguard fluidized filter for rowaphose, 4 400MH 10k xm, 2 160 vho super attinic, DYI 50 gallon denitrator

07/13/2012, 04:08 PM	#2898
Chicago Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: earth Posts: 3,218	thanks bhazzard.. done thinking about this.. this thread the more i read it the more i think about this.. sounds like a commercial pulling tigger on this.. will let you know how the 80pcs in the unit fit and work with 60 optics Painted aluminium black or white is ok.. NO IRON.. 80 led bridgelux or epistare right.. 3 watt. 3 channels.. same as the 120 optics 60 degree internal lcd to controll timmer and dimmer hanging kit basically same as unit we were looking at to start. but doing 80leds 3channels as follows 1. channel 3 royal blue for moon lights WITH 60 DEGREE OPTICS 2. channel 34 royal blues WITH 60 DEGREE OPTICS 3. channel 29 whites 14000k, 4 whites 10000k 2 red 630, 2 green 515, 2 orange 610, 2 violet 440, 2 uv 400 WITH 60 DEGREE OPTICS __________________ "If the thunder don't get you then the lightning will" ..famous poet.. Current Tank Info: 500 gal starphire, reef sps dominated, 40 plus fish, 300 gallon sump in basement below, reeftek calcium reactor, reeftek kalkwasser reactor, lifeguard fluidized filter for rowaphose, 4 400MH 10k xm, 2 160 vho super attinic, DYI 50 gallon denitrator

07/13/2012, 05:36 PM	#2899
cec09 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 413	Got mine light in today. Very fast shipping. Customs opened it and forgot to put one of the power cords back though. Boo. Just running the blues now. Im very happy with it. Talked to Sam and it will be on the way this monday.

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