Kessil Club

[Bronx19]

Your tank pic shows nothing in the top 6".

[ComforablyNumb]

Where is this magnificent reef of yours?

[redlazer]

Well I’m joining the Kessil club scored 2 h150 for my refugium just over the price of a of 1 h80.

[ComforablyNumb]

Originally Posted by Bronx19

Lets compare at 6" depth, 2x Kessil A360s vs ATI 4 Bulb.

Remember?? Seems 6" was fine with you when you were trying to make a point....

[Thor2j]

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

pffffft .. why would BRS bother putting that graph together if it was useless?

See the post above yours where people are noticing how petty some of you are being ?



Edit: I've not yet commented on Thors tank .. and I purposely did not reply to your petty insult (Hey, there is at least one stick of stylo in there) because you have done this before. Silly comments, baseless insults, etc.
Are you here to pick fights?

Please show us all your reef. It must be pretty spectacular.

Go ahead comment on my tank. Over 110 frags , almost all thriving with everything from basic mushrooms to high end chalices and sps. Comment away

[smatter]

Originally Posted by Thor2j

Go ahead comment on my tank. Over 110 frags , almost all thriving with everything from basic mushrooms to high end chalices and sps. Comment away

I'll comment. It looks pretty damn good, nice work . No one is disputing the AP700s ability. It's a really really nice light. Some just prefer the attributes of the time-tested A360 form factor.

[ComforablyNumb]

I am not going to lower myself to your level with petty insults about your tank as you did mine.

I try to stay above that nonsense.

[Thor2j]

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

I am not going to lower myself to your level with petty insults about your tank as you did mine.

I try to stay above that nonsense.

There was zero insult intended. It was simply a statement based on what i could see and data collected from extensive testing with the 360s and the ap700s.

Your tank looks good. I simply don't see any high PAR acros in the picture. Maybe there are some. And for the data part I stated you will have almost no light in the corners of a 48" tank at the bottom with 2 360s. That's it.

[ComforablyNumb]

You have a blatant shadowed triangle in the middle of the tank.

A 4' tank lit with an AP700 looks great and if you space 2x360s out further, they look like crap

Yes... Your tank is the exact one I had in mind sorry to say.

I must have taken that the wrong way. You must have meant to say something positive about it. No prob.

Enjoy your tank ..I enjoy mine.
Now can we stop this nonsense pls?

[Thor2j]

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

I must have taken that the wrong way. You must have meant to say something positive about it. No prob.

Enjoy your tank ..I enjoy mine.
Now can we stop this nonsense pls?

Have no idea what nonsense u are talking about. Once again, corals I can see in a photo, doesn't look like acros needing high PAR and fact that corners will not get light. Where's the nonsense??

[rvareef]

can we change the thread name to kessil fight club?

[ComforablyNumb]

The nonsense from you is quoted.

And did I not already say "Acro's have nothing to recommend them over any other coral. As a matter of fact, they will be your first losses should anything go wrong, no matter which light you use."

Move on pls. Insulting someone's tank sight unseen is rather silly.

[ComforablyNumb]

Originally Posted by rvareef

can we change the thread name to kessil fight club?

haha! Like it. Insulting someone's hard work and decent results is rather silly.

[Thor2j]

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

The nonsense from you is quoted.

And did I not already say "Acro's have nothing to recommend them over any other coral. As a matter of fact, they will be your first losses should anything go wrong, no matter which light you use."

Move on pls. Insulting someone's tank sight unseen is rather silly.

Still not seeing any nonsense, maybe u can point it out? Facts are not nonsense.

Told u it looked good. You simply have no comprehension of lighting requirements and are trying to lead others down your path with lack of knowledge.

[ComforablyNumb]

Pointing out:

Quote:
You have a blatant shadowed triangle in the middle of the tank.
Quote:
A 4' tank lit with an AP700 looks great and if you space 2x360s out further, they look like crap

Nonsense.

You simply have no comprehension of lighting requirements and are trying to lead others down your path with lack of knowledge

More petty nonsense.


On a more colorful note:

Love that Kessil blue. This colony has been fragged three times ..one is right behind the main colony and the other is in the extreme upper right hand of the reef. The other I gave away.

[ComforablyNumb]

Closeup pic of first candycane frag in upper right of my reef:



Orange seri encrusting:


Chalice also in the upper right of tank:


And 3 of my 21 blue mushrooms. I started with 5 and as they gradually got adjusted to my higher light situation than from whence they came (a friends tank), they did well. Growing tips of stylo's extreme left:

[Thor2j]

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

Pointing out:

Quote:
You have a blatant shadowed triangle in the middle of the tank.
Quote:
A 4' tank lit with an AP700 looks great and if you space 2x360s out further, they look like crap

Nonsense.



More petty nonsense.


On a more colorful note:

Love that Kessil blue. This colony has been fragged three times ..one is right behind the main colony and the other is in the extreme upper right hand of the reef. The other I gave away.

Neither of those quotes were by me Einstein.

Looks good, all.low light corals however.

[ComforablyNumb]

Originally Posted by Thor2j

You simply have no comprehension of lighting requirements and are trying to lead others down your path with lack of knowledge.

[ComforablyNumb]

Originally Posted by Thor2j

low light corals however.

100% of what I want to keep. Some SPS are now "low light corals" I guess.

Another low light sps coral growing over half way down my reef, one of three frags when I first got them. They came from a dealers shallow water tank running directly under Gen3 Pro's:


Same ones not long ago, I am hoping the bottom two continue to merge, and then into the upper one for a decent colony eventually:



Low light digitata frag when I first got it:


A few months later:


The secret is to not have any comprehension of lighting requirements and a complete lack of knowledge.
haha .. lighten up guys, its only a hobby

[Thor2j]

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

100% of what I want to keep. Some SPS are now "low light corals" I guess.

Another low light sps coral growing over half way down my reef, one of three frags when I first got them. They came from a dealers shallow water tank running directly under Gen3 Pro's:


Same ones not long ago, I am hoping the bottom two continue to merge, and then into the upper one for a decent colony eventually:



Low light digitata frag when I first got it:


A few months later:


The secret is to not have any comprehension of lighting requirements and a complete lack of knowledge.
haha .. lighten up guys, its only a hobby

Yes those are low light sps just like setosas and most montis.

I agree with u, many of the Lps and softies are every bit as spectacular as sps.

Problem is u are trying to tell someone who wants sps dominate that 2 360s on a 48 is fine. It won't come close.

[AGdent07]

I've got two Kessil A350s that I just took off my reef tank if anyone is interested.

[ComforablyNumb]

Originally Posted by Thor2j

I agree with u, many of the Lps and softies are every bit as spectacular as sps.

Problem is u are trying to tell someone who wants sps dominate that 2 360s on a 48 is fine. It won't come close.

24" is the maximum length of his tank actually. 2 ft cube if I recall
Its mine that is 48" long.
And with two, he could grow everything I can ..more easily too. He only has to cover a 24" square and can place/point them anywhere he'd like.

I've thrown out so many plating monti's and birds nests that I refuse to put them in my tank anymore.
They just grow way too fast and the monti's shade.

Here's some monti that I had to get rid of, it started growing into the digitita and acans, irritating them and me .. and shaded below so I turfed all monti's:


And some healthy pocci's:


Enjoy your tank, I enjoy mine. The ap700 was not avail when I set up my tank but its doing fine nonetheless.

Edit: I also enjoy my fish very much. I have 13 in there .. a little yellow tang, 3 chromis, 3 cards, 1 matted file fish, 1 gold stripe maroon clown, and a few various damsels. I've lost one fish in two and half years with this reef, a chromis that evaporated or something. All others are two years old or older. Been reefing since '89 .. and yes I'm that old, 63. Beats dying young all to h3ll.

[ComforablyNumb]

I have a question for anybody ..

Why are 360's still the same price they've always been?

[rvareef]

I think the real question is how many pendants do you need for kenya trees?

[Bronx19]

Originally Posted by ComforablyNumb

I have a question for anybody ..

Why are 360's still the same price they've always been?

Because they haven't released a successor. No light fixture drops in price until they are replaced by a newer version. Giesemann Spectra/Infiniti have been around forever, still the same RRP.