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snorvich · 06/29/2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloudburst2000

Huh...I always heard that skunks were the lesser aggressive of the larger clowns. Even ORA lists them as 'a peaceful clownfish that can be easily kept in community or reef tanks'. I want a slightly larger clown. I really like the Clarkii too but I specifically went with a skunk because I was under the impression that they were much more peaceful than the other larger clown species.

Perhaps relatively so. Absolutely so, not at all.

hajas · 06/29/2012, 04:30 PM

I currently have the start of a mixed reef, including:
2 firefish
2 black and white clowns
1 algae blenny
2 cleaner shrimp
2 blood shrimp
Assorted snails and hermits

I am looking to add 4 Maldives Lyretail Anthias (3 female and 1 male) or a pair of Kaudern's Cardinalfish.

My tank is 220 gal. Is there any issues with adding either group? Any warnings about either type of fish? Thanks in advance.

cap11885 · 06/29/2012, 04:34 PM

Looking at a beautiful potters angel. how safe is it in my mixed reef

Cloudburst2000 · 06/29/2012, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

Perhaps relatively so. Absolutely so, not at all.

No fish is absolutely certain. I understand that. I hosted my brother-in-law's neon dottyback in my tank for close to a year. He was a model citizen so when my brother-in-law claimed him back, I got one of my own. Mine was very aggressive. He ruled the tank with an iron fist. I have also seen 'peaceful' fish who had major chips in their shoulders. Fish vary in temperament even within the same species. I have just read that pink skunk clowns are normally less aggressive then other larger clowns...except, of course, when they are spawning. So for a community tank, the skunk seemed like the best bet of the larger clowns, plus I think they look cool.

cap11885 · 06/29/2012, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cap11885

Looking at a beautiful potters angel. how safe is it in my mixed reef

Im actually at the pet store right now. any opinions would be welcome

snorvich · 06/29/2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by hajas

I currently have the start of a mixed reef, including:
2 firefish
2 black and white clowns
1 algae blenny
2 cleaner shrimp
2 blood shrimp
Assorted snails and hermits

I am looking to add 4 Maldives Lyretail Anthias (3 female and 1 male) or a pair of Kaudern's Cardinalfish.

My tank is 220 gal. Is there any issues with adding either group? Any warnings about either type of fish? Thanks in advance.

For the Kaudern's Cardinal fish, it is important that they be tank bred and a male + female pair. I personally prefer a different species of anthias but either choice will work fine.

snorvich · 06/29/2012, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cap11885

Im actually at the pet store right now. any opinions would be welcome

They may or may not be reef safe but they are one of the more difficult dwarf angels.

hajas · 06/29/2012, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

For the Kaudern's Cardinal fish, it is important that they be tank bred and a male + female pair. I personally prefer a different species of anthias but either choice will work fine.

Why do you prefer a different species? Temperament? Appearance?

snorvich · 06/29/2012, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hajas

Why do you prefer a different species? Temperament? Appearance?

I prefer resplendants or carberryi and would probably increase the number a bit from your plan. Coloration and appearance to my eye are better but it is clearly a subjective choice

Fatrob164 · 06/29/2012, 09:55 PM

This is what I have 55 gallon
60 pounds live rock
4 turbo snails
2 nassarius snails
2 brittle starfish
Snowflake eel
15 hermit crabs
Valentini puffer
melanurus wrasse

I'm thinking of adding two clowns and a rbta as well as a flame angel. But I do have another reef tank if the puffer or flame angel decide to start nibbling. Let me know what ya think

VectorAKA · 06/29/2012, 10:27 PM

1st Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri) x2 (a male and Female)
2nd Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred (Pterapogon kauderni) x3
3rd Jawfish, Yellowhead (Opistognathus aurifrons) x2
4th Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) x1
5th Scooter Blenny (Synchiropus ocellatus) x1
6th Orchid Dottyback - Tank-Bred(Pseudochromis fridmani) x2
7th Red Mandarin (Pterosynchiropus splendidus var.) x1
After those I will have to see…maybe a clown fish then add a Rose Tip anemone. Sometime between this a Pacific Tang. I have plenty of rock work for the fish to hide in and space for foraging and swimming.

I want to add a variety of corals....any I should be especially wary of with my fish choices?

I have 20 Astrea snails, 10 narsissus snails, 1 green Emerald crab, 3 scarlet hermit crabs (wanna add two more) and a Peppermint Shrimp.

72 gal bowfront w/ 30lbs of LR and 50lbs of other rocks which half of are seeding as LR w/29 gal sump running carbon filters when I feel the need, bio-balls, 65 gal Coralife skimmer and refugium w/ Chaeto LS and LR rubble.

VectorAKA · 06/30/2012, 12:01 AM

BTW....I was going to get the Pacific Blue Tang really tiny and upgrade to a larger tank later anyways....they don't grow to fast...right?

snorvich · 06/30/2012, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Fatrob164

This is what I have 55 gallon
60 pounds live rock
4 turbo snails
2 nassarius snails
2 brittle starfish
Snowflake eel
15 hermit crabs
Valentini puffer
melanurus wrasse

I'm thinking of adding two clowns and a rbta as well as a flame angel. But I do have another reef tank if the puffer or flame angel decide to start nibbling. Let me know what ya think

I would not add any fish to this tank

snorvich · 06/30/2012, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VectorAKA

BTW....I was going to get the Pacific Blue Tang really tiny and upgrade to a larger tank later anyways....they don't grow to fast...right?

tank upgrades rarely happen and this fish grows quickly. RC recommends a 240 gallon tank for a hepatus tang

snorvich · 06/30/2012, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by VectorAKA

1st Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri) x2 (a male and Female)
2nd Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred (Pterapogon kauderni) x3 Only 2 will survive long term and even then only if you have a male + female
3rd Jawfish, Yellowhead (Opistognathus aurifrons) x2
4th Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) x1
5th Scooter Blenny (Synchiropus ocellatus) x1 two dragonets are a bit iffy despite eating frozen
6th Orchid Dottyback - Tank-Bred(Pseudochromis fridmani) x2
7th Red Mandarin (Pterosynchiropus splendidus var.) x1
After those I will have to see…maybe a clown fish then add a Rose Tip anemone. Sometime between this a Pacific Tang. I have plenty of rock work for the fish to hide in and space for foraging and swimming.

I do not recommend a tang for this sized tank

I want to add a variety of corals....any I should be especially wary of with my fish choices?

I have 20 Astrea snails, 10 narsissus snails, 1 green Emerald crab, 3 scarlet hermit crabs (wanna add two more) and a Peppermint Shrimp.

72 gal bowfront w/ 30lbs of LR and 50lbs of other rocks which half of are seeding as LR w/29 gal sump running carbon filters when I feel the need, bio-balls, 65 gal Coralife skimmer and refugium w/ Chaeto LS and LR rubble.

mlott132 · 06/30/2012, 12:51 PM

My cycle has been finished on 6/10 and I added my cuc on 6/15. My first fish is still in QT for another two weeks. Would it be ok to add a cleaner shrimp and maybe either a brittle or serpent sea star to my DT?

snorvich · 06/30/2012, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mlott132

My cycle has been finished on 6/10 and I added my cuc on 6/15. My first fish is still in QT for another two weeks. Would it be ok to add a cleaner shrimp and maybe either a brittle or serpent sea star to my DT?

While this thread is about marine fish compatibility, yes it would be fine.

s.h.moradi · 06/30/2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mlott132

My cycle has been finished on 6/10 and I added my cuc on 6/15. My first fish is still in QT for another two weeks. Would it be ok to add a cleaner shrimp and maybe either a brittle or serpent sea star to my DT?

I think its better to test the important parameters(NH3 - NO2 - PH - no3 - po4) before adding anything. Another point is that you should introduce the fish at first and then invertebrates

snorvich · 06/30/2012, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by s.h.moradi

I think its better to test the important parameters(NH3 - NO2 - PH - no3 - po4) before adding anything. Another point is that you should introduce the fish at first and then invertebrates

This thread is an expert thread answered by Reef Central Staff and unlike other threads, is NOT a discussion thread. While your participation is encourage elsewhere, we would ask that you refrain from answering this thread. Your cooperation is most appreciated.

Arnold40 · 06/30/2012, 07:46 PM

I have a 65 gallon DT with 20 gal sump. I have SPS and LPS currently I have 3 blue reef chromis and a golden midas blennie. I was thinking about adding 2 more fish.

Ocellaris clown and a splendid dottyback.

do you see any issues and how is the stocking level? I have an EV120 skimmer.

snorvich · 06/30/2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold40

I have a 65 gallon DT with 20 gal sump. I have SPS and LPS currently I have 3 blue reef chromis and a golden midas blennie. I was thinking about adding 2 more fish.

Ocellaris clown and a splendid dottyback.

do you see any issues and how is the stocking level? I have an EV120 skimmer.

bioload would still be fine but the dottyback is a very aggressive fish

s.h.moradi · 07/01/2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

This thread is an expert thread answered by Reef Central Staff and unlike other threads, is NOT a discussion thread. While your participation is encourage elsewhere, we would ask that you refrain from answering this thread. Your cooperation is most appreciated.

Hi
I couldnt send PM then I reply here
Im new to the forum
sorry for mistake!
you said this thread is an expert thread,but:
whats the problem if I can reply a Q corrrectly??!!
what do you mean by an expert?!!
how do you know that Im not an expert? Im an author and editor of a magazine. I wrote 4 books about marine fish and reefs and now Im the editor of ornamental fish Magazine (publishing in IRAN)
anyway, maybe by an expert you mean something else! thank you for mentioning

Arnold40 · 07/01/2012, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

bioload would still be fine but the dottyback is a very aggressive fish

Would you suggest not adding the Splendid Dottyback? Are all dottybacks very aggressive?

What if I skip the dottyback, could I add 3 Agile Chromis to the tank with the Blue Reef Chromis?

snorvich · 07/01/2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Arnold40

Would you suggest not adding the Splendid Dottyback? Are all dottybacks very aggressive?

What if I skip the dottyback, could I add 3 Agile Chromis to the tank with the Blue Reef Chromis?

Chromis over time will winnow down their number to just one or two. All dottybacks are aggressive, the least aggressive is P. fridmani.

Arnold40 · 07/01/2012, 05:07 AM

Thanks for the quick replies!

Okay, I am somewhat confused. Would it be better to add just one chromis? Are the Blue Reef Chromis and Agile chromis compatible? Since I already have 3 Reef Chromis could I add an agile chromis to the tank without issue?

So new stocking list:

3 Blue Reef Chromis
1 golden midas blennie
1 Ocellaris Clown
1 Agile Chromis
1 Orchid Dottyback

Would this work?

06/29/2012, 04:30 PM	#2952
hajas Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 109	New purchase I currently have the start of a mixed reef, including: 2 firefish 2 black and white clowns 1 algae blenny 2 cleaner shrimp 2 blood shrimp Assorted snails and hermits I am looking to add 4 Maldives Lyretail Anthias (3 female and 1 male) or a pair of Kaudern's Cardinalfish. My tank is 220 gal. Is there any issues with adding either group? Any warnings about either type of fish? Thanks in advance.

06/29/2012, 04:34 PM	#2953
cap11885 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 278	potters angel Looking at a beautiful potters angel. how safe is it in my mixed reef __________________ 250dd, icecap 48xl sump, skimmer, 4 koralia pumps w/controller, 2x hydra 52HD, Apex controller. Oldest fish 14 years. Current Tank Info: 250 mixed

06/29/2012, 10:27 PM	#2961
VectorAKA Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lehigh Acres, Fl Posts: 103	Intended fish 1st Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse (Paracheilinus carpenteri) x2 (a male and Female) 2nd Kaudern's Cardinal - Tank-Bred (Pterapogon kauderni) x3 3rd Jawfish, Yellowhead (Opistognathus aurifrons) x2 4th Midas Blenny (Ecsenius midas) x1 5th Scooter Blenny (Synchiropus ocellatus) x1 6th Orchid Dottyback - Tank-Bred(Pseudochromis fridmani) x2 7th Red Mandarin (Pterosynchiropus splendidus var.) x1 After those I will have to see…maybe a clown fish then add a Rose Tip anemone. Sometime between this a Pacific Tang. I have plenty of rock work for the fish to hide in and space for foraging and swimming. I want to add a variety of corals....any I should be especially wary of with my fish choices? I have 20 Astrea snails, 10 narsissus snails, 1 green Emerald crab, 3 scarlet hermit crabs (wanna add two more) and a Peppermint Shrimp. 72 gal bowfront w/ 30lbs of LR and 50lbs of other rocks which half of are seeding as LR w/29 gal sump running carbon filters when I feel the need, bio-balls, 65 gal Coralife skimmer and refugium w/ Chaeto LS and LR rubble.

06/30/2012, 12:51 PM	#2966
mlott132 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: NWI Posts: 697	My cycle has been finished on 6/10 and I added my cuc on 6/15. My first fish is still in QT for another two weeks. Would it be ok to add a cleaner shrimp and maybe either a brittle or serpent sea star to my DT? __________________ 75 Gallon mixed reef, Trigger Systems Ruby 30S, Lifereef SVS3-24 Skimmer, Eheim 1262, 2x AI Vega LED Lights, 1x Jebao RW-8 powerhead, 1x Ecotech MP-40 powerhead

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Fatrob164 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Macedon Posts: 102	This is what I have 55 gallon 60 pounds live rock 4 turbo snails 2 nassarius snails 2 brittle starfish Snowflake eel 15 hermit crabs Valentini puffer melanurus wrasse I'm thinking of adding two clowns and a rbta as well as a flame angel. But I do have another reef tank if the puffer or flame angel decide to start nibbling. Let me know what ya think

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VectorAKA Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Lehigh Acres, Fl Posts: 103	BTW....I was going to get the Pacific Blue Tang really tiny and upgrade to a larger tank later anyways....they don't grow to fast...right?

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Arnold40 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 71	I have a 65 gallon DT with 20 gal sump. I have SPS and LPS currently I have 3 blue reef chromis and a golden midas blennie. I was thinking about adding 2 more fish. Ocellaris clown and a splendid dottyback. do you see any issues and how is the stocking level? I have an EV120 skimmer.

07/01/2012, 05:07 AM	#2975
Arnold40 Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Clifton Park, NY Posts: 71	Thanks for the quick replies! Okay, I am somewhat confused. Would it be better to add just one chromis? Are the Blue Reef Chromis and Agile chromis compatible? Since I already have 3 Reef Chromis could I add an agile chromis to the tank without issue? So new stocking list: 3 Blue Reef Chromis 1 golden midas blennie 1 Ocellaris Clown 1 Agile Chromis 1 Orchid Dottyback Would this work?