Capn's LogBook Whats hot What's interesting - Page 12

Aquarist007 · 05/16/2009, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
Capn do you use B-Ionic Magnesium also with the two part?

I have to because of the Instant Ocean salt mix I am using. As soon as I am finished the last pail I am switching to H2Ocean which has a much higher magnesium level in it.
I am using epsom salts right now because it is taking so much to keep the mag level at 1400 ppm(corals seem to be happier with that rather then 1300 ppm)

check your salt mixture out here---it can make a difference on how much 2 part and mag you use

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...readid=1287118

Tangweed · 05/16/2009, 07:06 AM

I use Instant Ocean also. So your using B-Ionic Mag and epsom together? How do you know how much epsom salt to add?

Aquarist007 · 05/16/2009, 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
I use Instant Ocean also. So your using B-Ionic Mag and epsom together? How do you know how much epsom salt to add?

no--just the epsom salts right now--I get 2lbs of it for the same price of 500grams of b-ionic mag

I use the dosing calculator on the reef chemistry forum

http://reef.diesyst.com/cf/chemcalccf.html

put your existing level of mag in there--the desired level--select the product and it gives you how much you need
and important--how much to dose a day to bring up the levels

Tangweed · 05/16/2009, 07:29 AM

Thank you for all the info!

Aquarist007 · 05/16/2009, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
Thank you for all the info!

you are welcome---please post back in a week with your water parameters

BTW
using epsom salts is not a long term solution to raising mag levels. Long term use has the possibility of building hydrogen sulfide up in deep sand beds which is not a good thing for fish.

I am just dosing with it until I get rid of the last IO salt mix

which I have checked out with the chemistry guys as being okay to do temporarily.

Tangweed · 05/16/2009, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
you are welcome---please post back in a week with your water parameters

BTW
using epsom salts is not a long term solution to raising mag levels. Long term use has the possibility of building hydrogen sulfide up in deep sand beds which is not a good thing for fish.

I am just dosing with it until I get rid of the last IO salt mix
which I have checked out with the chemistry guys as being okay to do temporarily.

I'll post test results after 7 days of dosing.

Aquarist007 · 05/16/2009, 06:30 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tangweed
I'll post test results after 7 days of dosing. [/QUOTE

great Jeremy---any questions in between just ask

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 07:02 AM

OK Capn... 7 days of dosing B-Ionic. I did some testing this morning. I also did a five gallon WC last night.

SG - 1.026
PH - 8.8
dKH - 10
CAL - 500
NO3 - 10
PO4 - 0

Is the PH high because test was done without lights for 10hrs?

NO3 could be up because I just noticed dirty filter sock? I will change that ASAP.

I will test PH and NO3 later in the day.

Do you think the CAL is high?

Your thoughts please.

Aquarist007 · 05/20/2009, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
OK Capn... 7 days of dosing B-Ionic. I did some testing this morning. I also did a five gallon WC last night.

SG - 1.026
PH - 8.8
dKH - 10
CAL - 500
NO3 - 10
PO4 - 0

Is the PH high because test was done without lights for 10hrs?

NO3 could be up because I just noticed dirty filter sock? I will change that ASAP.

I will test PH and NO3 later in the day.

tangweed---always make the weekly tests before you do a water change. Depending on the salt mix you are using you won't get results that reflect the weeks dosing.

Ph seems like a miss reading to me --pH in large is related more to the exchange of co2 in your tank and the level of it in the surrounding room. Make sure the surface of your tank is really churning and not covered and open a window close to the tank over night

What salt mix are you using

Nitrates have nothing to do with dosing but all to do with feeding routines, the flow in your tank, the amount of live rock and the filtration system you have(dsb or refugium?)

Do you think the CAL is high?

Your thoughts please.

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 07:50 AM

I will test again tonight.

IO for salt mix.

Plenty of flow in tank. Very little sand in tank. I built a spot in my tank for refugium but have nothing in it or light as of now. If you click on my house I have pictures of my sump. I also have a Pin Point PH meter but need a new probe.

Aquarist007 · 05/20/2009, 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
I will test again tonight.

IO for salt mix.

Plenty of flow in tank. Very little sand in tank. I built a spot in my tank for refugium but have nothing in it or light as of now. If you click on my house I have pictures of my sump. I also have a Pin Point PH meter but need a new probe.

what's the total volume of water in your system and how much two part are you using?

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 08:19 AM

90 gal tank with 40 breeder sump. I'm thinking it to be about 120gal volume. Not sure on volume calculator. Dosing 25 ML daily Also 50lbs plus of LR. Lots of swimming room for fish.

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 08:26 AM

Also tank running warm 81. Set up in family room of house (basement). No windows of any use. I'm also running a dehumidifier.

Aquarist007 · 05/20/2009, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
90 gal tank with 40 breeder sump. I'm thinking it to be about 120gal volume. Not sure on volume calculator. Dosing 25 ML daily Also 50lbs plus of LR. Lots of swimming room for fish.

crank up your skimmer then and make sure the surface of the tank is really churning

you are under supplied with live rock--you should have between 100and 150 lbs of live rock in that system to control the nitrates but in the meantime start feeding a whole less flake food.

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
crank up your skimmer then and make sure the surface of the tank is really churning

you are under supplied with live rock--you should have between 100and 150 lbs of live rock in that system to control the nitrates but in the meantime start feeding a whole less flake food.

Skimmer running good... lots of junk.

Surface is crystal clear... no cloudiness. Side view of tank very clear.

Will do less flake food... might have been over feeding a little.

I'm not a big fan of tons of LR in set up. I was kicking it around about adding more. Now I will when I get some extra funds.

HumanIMDB · 05/20/2009, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
I'm not a big fan of tons of LR in set up. I was kicking it around about adding more. Now I will when I get some extra funds.

A friend of mine feels the same so he has most of thier live rock in a remote tank in the basement. Something I'm thinking of doing with our big build when we get a house.

Get one of those pond liners, fill it with a bunch of live rock and plumb it so that the drain from the display goes into the live rock and then flows into the sump to be skimmed...or something along those lines...maybe the live rock pond would be plumbed like a refugium off the return. Still working on the design.

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by HumanIMDB
A friend of mine feels the same so he has most of thier live rock in a remote tank in the basement. Something I'm thinking of doing with our big build when we get a house.

Get one of those pond liners, fill it with a bunch of live rock and plumb it so that the drain from the display goes into the live rock and then flows into the sump to be skimmed...or something along those lines...maybe the live rock pond would be plumbed like a refugium off the return. Still working on the design.

Ahhh... I have plenty of room in my sump to add some LR

HumanIMDB · 05/20/2009, 10:37 AM

Something like this would be really nice - http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...218&lpage=none

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HumanIMDB
Something like this would be really nice - http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...218&lpage=none

That's a lot of water

Aquarist007 · 05/20/2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HumanIMDB
Something like this would be really nice - http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...218&lpage=none

thanks for your help Chris--appreciated

Tangleweed--get your chemistry stablized with the 2 part before adding anymore live rock to the system.

Tangweed · 05/20/2009, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
thanks for your help Chris--appreciated

Tangleweed--get your chemistry stablized with the 2 part before adding anymore live rock to the system.

I like that... Tangleweed

HumanIMDB · 05/20/2009, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by capn_hylinur
thanks for your help Chris--appreciated

Any time Scott.

Aquarist007 · 05/22/2009, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tangweed
I like that... Tangleweed

I feel tangleweed is for tangs who get caught in it and tangweed is for us who prefer to smoke it

Tangweed · 05/23/2009, 03:50 AM

Funny stuff Capn

I'm going to run some more test after the holiday week... I will post them and then ask for more advice

Aquarist007 · 05/23/2009, 05:44 AM

great--I'll be here

glad you have a sense of humour--it should be a criteria on here.

05/16/2009, 07:06 AM	#277
Tangweed Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 1,002	I use Instant Ocean also. So your using B-Ionic Mag and epsom together? How do you know how much epsom salt to add? __________________ Thanks! Jeremy Current Tank Info: 90 gal with 40 gal breeder sump / fuge, Octo skimmer, lights and some water.

05/16/2009, 07:29 AM	#279
Tangweed Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 1,002	Thank you for all the info! __________________ Thanks! Jeremy Current Tank Info: 90 gal with 40 gal breeder sump / fuge, Octo skimmer, lights and some water.

05/16/2009, 06:30 PM	#282
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tangweed I'll post test results after 7 days of dosing. [/QUOTE great Jeremy---any questions in between just ask __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

05/20/2009, 07:02 AM	#283
Tangweed Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 1,002	OK Capn... 7 days of dosing B-Ionic. I did some testing this morning. I also did a five gallon WC last night. SG - 1.026 PH - 8.8 dKH - 10 CAL - 500 NO3 - 10 PO4 - 0 Is the PH high because test was done without lights for 10hrs? NO3 could be up because I just noticed dirty filter sock? I will change that ASAP. I will test PH and NO3 later in the day. Do you think the CAL is high? Your thoughts please. __________________ Thanks! Jeremy Current Tank Info: 90 gal with 40 gal breeder sump / fuge, Octo skimmer, lights and some water.

05/20/2009, 07:50 AM	#285
Tangweed Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 1,002	I will test again tonight. IO for salt mix. Plenty of flow in tank. Very little sand in tank. I built a spot in my tank for refugium but have nothing in it or light as of now. If you click on my house I have pictures of my sump. I also have a Pin Point PH meter but need a new probe. __________________ Thanks! Jeremy Current Tank Info: 90 gal with 40 gal breeder sump / fuge, Octo skimmer, lights and some water.

05/20/2009, 08:19 AM	#287
Tangweed Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 1,002	90 gal tank with 40 breeder sump. I'm thinking it to be about 120gal volume. Not sure on volume calculator. Dosing 25 ML daily Also 50lbs plus of LR. Lots of swimming room for fish. __________________ Thanks! Jeremy Current Tank Info: 90 gal with 40 gal breeder sump / fuge, Octo skimmer, lights and some water.

05/20/2009, 08:26 AM	#288
Tangweed Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 1,002	Also tank running warm 81. Set up in family room of house (basement). No windows of any use. I'm also running a dehumidifier. __________________ Thanks! Jeremy Current Tank Info: 90 gal with 40 gal breeder sump / fuge, Octo skimmer, lights and some water.

05/20/2009, 10:37 AM	#293
HumanIMDB Premium Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Winnipeg, MB Posts: 1,556	Something like this would be really nice - http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...218&lpage=none __________________ Chris Rivers Will do computer support for frags. :) Click on the Red House to see our AGA92 Corner Reef Tank Build thread. Current Tank Info: 10 Gal (Aqualight 96W Quad 50/50, AquaClear Power Filter 70 with Chaeto lit by 6500K Bulb, AquaClear Power Head 20, 50w Tronic Heater), 92 Gal All-Glass Corner (Cycling)

05/23/2009, 03:50 AM	#299
Tangweed Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mohnton, PA Posts: 1,002	Funny stuff Capn I'm going to run some more test after the holiday week... I will post them and then ask for more advice __________________ Thanks! Jeremy Current Tank Info: 90 gal with 40 gal breeder sump / fuge, Octo skimmer, lights and some water.

05/23/2009, 05:44 AM	#300
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	great--I'll be here glad you have a sense of humour--it should be a criteria on here. __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock