Warner Marine Now Has A Pellet Product

[Rizup]

Originally Posted by MVlk

What is the smallest tank and smallest skimmer you goes are running these with??

Although I have them on hand, I am on the fence now whether to put these into use.

Regardless I am holding off for a little bit as I just replaced my bulbs and ordered the Hanna Phosphate meter. I want to have a good baseline to start from and be able to test accurately.

Not sure on the first part, but I am also waiting on my Phosphate Photometer. Where did you order yours? I ordered it over a week ago and I am still waiting as they are on backorder

[MVlk]

I found the meter cheapest on Amazon... shipped next day.

[Kenfuzed]

I highly recommend the original Hanna LR Photometer over the newer (smaller) checker. While the $50 checker is much cheaper I found it to be not nearly as accurate as the more expensive full version LR Photometers.

[poolkeeper1]

Originally Posted by Kenfuzed

I highly recommend the original Hanna LR Photometer over the newer (smaller) checker. While the $50 checker is much cheaper I found it to be not nearly as accurate as the more expensive full version LR Photometers.

Our Reef Club did a comparason of the new cheaper meter against the older more exspensive, Back to back with the same water samples and they were both spot on! No measurable difference between the two, As fair a test as possible without being in a lab. FYI
Bill

[reef_doug]

Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

Our Reef Club did a comparason of the new cheaper meter against the older more exspensive, Back to back with the same water samples and they were both spot on! No measurable difference between the two, As fair a test as possible without being in a lab. FYI
Bill

Bill, which model did your club check:
HI 736 Phosphorus Ultra Low Range
HI 731 Phosphate model

Thanks

[Kenfuzed]

Originally Posted by poolkeeper1

Our Reef Club did a comparason of the new cheaper meter against the older more exspensive, Back to back with the same water samples and they were both spot on! No measurable difference between the two, As fair a test as possible without being in a lab. FYI
Bill

Wow, wish our tests were like that. Tried 3 different "checkers" against 2 of the pro original version photometers. The first one gave 3 different readings from the same sample so it was returned. The second checker meter read zero consistently while the 2 full size photometers both gave readings of 0.12. A day later the same checker gave a reading of 1.71 while the 2 original (full) meters were still reading 0.12. Brought someone else's checker over and it read zero on the same tank water. Just for kicks I took the same water and my original full size meter to a LFS who also has the same meter, and his was dead on with mine.

While I think the checkers are far better than most of the regular test kits out there, IMO the original gives me consistent readings every time. Then again, theres always the chance that we got 3 bad checkers.

[Rizup]

Originally Posted by Kenfuzed

Wow, wish our tests were like that. Tried 3 different "checkers" against 2 of the pro original version photometers. The first one gave 3 different readings from the same sample so it was returned. The second checker meter read zero consistently while the 2 full size photometers both gave readings of 0.12. A day later the same checker gave a reading of 1.71 while the 2 original (full) meters were still reading 0.12. Brought someone else's checker over and it read zero on the same tank water. Just for kicks I took the same water and my original full size meter to a LFS who also has the same meter, and his was dead on with mine.

While I think the checkers are far better than most of the regular test kits out there, IMO the original gives me consistent readings every time. Then again, theres always the chance that we got 3 bad checkers.

That's what I was afraid of. I hadn't really heard of too many bad experiences with the "checkers" yet, but I guess I haven't really heard that many positive reviews either.

[Kenfuzed]

Originally Posted by Rizup

That's what I was afraid of. I hadn't really heard of too many bad experiences with the "checkers" yet, but I guess I haven't really heard that many positive reviews either.

Others may have positive experiences, I just wasn't one of them. Believe me, I of all people would have preferred a cheaper alternative but the testing I witnessed was a bit too inconsistent.

[basser1]

Kenfuzed.... You might want to share your experience with the colorimeter in the Hanna forum as well. I know the prez of the company responds there. He may want to address this (potential) problem.

[poolkeeper1]

Originally Posted by reef_doug

Bill, which model did your club check:
HI 736 Phosphorus Ultra Low Range
HI 731 Phosphate model

Thanks

I'm not sure, Mvlk may be able to check in on that Info as i believe he was at the meeting when they did the tests. I was only told of the results second hand from other members.
Kenfused, I don't doubt your results either as these meters are only as good as the particular unit and the persons doing the tests. I've had many test that were done with same test kits and get different results on the same sample. It's just not an exact science at the hobby level equipment we have access to.
Bill

[MVlk]

I m pretty sure it was the 713 the other model is too new.

[Stuart60611]

Although I started this thread, it has taken me until now to finally take the plunge and add Ecobak to my system. I elected to purchase the GE0 420 Pellet Reactor from Premium Aquatics along with a Tunze pump to power it. The reactor can hold 2 or more liters of Ecobak. I have a extremely heavily stocked 125 fowlr with a total water volume of about 140 gallons when including the sump. I have an SRO 2000 skimmer. My plan is start out with a full liter and see how things go for about 1 month or so. I then may add up to an additional liter to deal with my heavy bioload. I have been dosing large amounts of vodka in the system daily and adding biodigest weekly for about 1 year so I do not think there will be a major shock to my system by introducing the Ecobak. I plan on slowly reducing my vodka doses over the course of 1 week or so after I introduce Ecobak. I also plan on puting some biodigest on the Ecobak media in the reactor to seed the reactor and speed the colonization process.

[theJiggyfly]

Originally Posted by PowermanKW

So I wanted to update. I have been running 6-7 weeks now and no GFO. My PO4 is lower that what I used to run. Just a slightest tint of blue which is <.02 with the right numbers. My PO4 was just a bit higher before running GFO. This will be my last update though since I am getting out of the hobby and the pellets are going to another tank. So far I say these work as advertised.

I am the lucky recipient of the eco-bak from powerman. I have them on my 230 and also on a 40 gallon breeder that is my zoa farm. Hopefully this will alleviate the cyano from the big tank and keep the zoa tank rockin.

[kkris]

Try contacting them directly. They should be able to help you out.

Had a great conversation with John today. Great guy. Can't wait to try the product.

[Rizup]

Originally Posted by kkris

Had a great conversation with John today. Great guy. Can't wait to try the product.

Definitely. Let is know how things go. What type of reactor do you plan to use?

My water clarity is normally very good, but this morning I swear I couldn't tell there was any water in the tank. Might just be me but it looks as clear as the day after I change my carbon. Maybe it isn't any different than normal and it is just wishful thinking. I mean, the pellets have only been on the tank for a couple of days

[drtrash]

When people say "tumble" is it the whole column or just movement within reactor? I am running 250 ml thru TLF at 100 gph.

[lex211]

Originally Posted by Kenfuzed

Others may have positive experiences, I just wasn't one of them. Believe me, I of all people would have preferred a cheaper alternative but the testing I witnessed was a bit too inconsistent.

I have the 713 it works great got it in a group by on CMAS


Lothar

[Stuart60611]

Curious if those who have been using Ecobak for a bit have noticed the pellets dissolving at all. If so, what volume of pellets did you start with on what size system, and during what time period did you observe how much of the pellets reduce?

[DJREEF]

Originally Posted by drtrash

When people say "tumble" is it the whole column or just movement within reactor? I am running 250 ml thru TLF at 100 gph.

You want just enough movement to keep then pellets clean.

DJ

[kkris]

Definitely. Let is know how things go. What type of reactor do you plan to use?

Dusting off the old zeo reactor!

100 GPH flow thru or a gentle boil is what John recommended.
It's also important to note that he suggests no additional bak supplements.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by drtrash

When people say "tumble" is it the whole column or just movement within reactor? I am running 250 ml thru TLF at 100 gph.

As I understand it, Eco Bak pellets do not need to tumble vigorously. I have a slight tumble within my BRS unit.

[Maximus]

Here's a crappy/shaky video I just shot:



Another angle:

[MSHUR]

Originally Posted by kkris

Dusting off the old zeo reactor!

100 GPH flow thru or a gentle boil is what John recommended.
It's also important to note that he suggests no additional bak supplements.

Hi Kris,
why he said its important no add bak suppl? I use pellets for about 3wks now and i dont see any results so far. Po4 still high--0.08, start it with 0,07
No3 was about 5ppm and remaining the same. i use 500ml NP pellets and 500ml vertex

mike

[Buganddoug]

It takes about four weeks to start to kick in.It dose need time to seed.

[MSHUR]

Possable. but prior to pellets i was dosing Prodibio, so my tank already had bac population