Pix & ID: Critters that come in your rocks: the good and the bad. - Page 121

Mikesull415 · 01/08/2014, 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andi5000

Soooo I'm new to both this forum and to reef tanks, just got some live rock in my tank a day ago. I'm curious what these 2 things are. The first one looks kinda like a bristol worm. It's alive, i know that much. I have a few of them living in the holes in the rock
The second thing: Green Umbrella/pod/flower (lol) came with the very colourful chunk of live rock I got. I have zero ideas as to what it is.
A little help would be mega appreciated

First one definitely looks like a bristle worm. Good to have around for cleaning. I've got one in my tank that's about five inches long but I rarely see him. He found a hole in a piece of live rock he likes and pretty much stays in it. Every now and then he'll come out (usually not completely) to eat something off the bottom.

Can't help with the second one

ReeferKimberly · 01/08/2014, 09:34 PM

Andi I wanna say the second one is an alveopora coral, very similar to goniopora but with 12 'tentacles' rather than 24 on each stock.

zsxking · 01/09/2014, 02:16 AM

My tank is one month old. I learned about aiptasia recently and there is an anemone like thing on my live rock since I bought it. When touched it would retreat, leaving on a tip visible. Is it aiptasia? Do I need to get rid of it?

uploadfromtaptalk1389255363770.jpg

ReeferKimberly · 01/09/2014, 02:29 AM

Yes it is aiptasia and yes you should get rid of it if you want coral. If no coral it does not really much matter (in my personal opinion), just know it will reproduce rapidly and can sting things.

dzl1 · 01/09/2014, 05:48 AM

Panta rhei, thank you for the info.

DZL1.

Andi5000 · 01/09/2014, 08:04 AM

Cool! I had a feeling it was a bristle worm, noticed this morning when I woke up that I've for a bristle star as well! To say the least, I'm really excited to pick up some more live rock tonight.
Question, since this is the first few days of me having a tank, it's still in the cycling process. will the coral temporarily die off while my water levels bounce around? As I expect that my cycling conditions aren't prime for coral to be growing in the tank already (it's a section about half the size of a dime)
Again, I'm a TOTAL newby here! lol

ReeferKimberly · 01/09/2014, 08:11 AM

Honestly alveoporas are difficult. Not nearly as difficult as gonioporas though and people have been having a lot more success with those lately. If it is a big cycle it will not be good for the alve at all. It would not come back if it died quickly. It is possible it could make it of course....but the water would have to remain pretty good for it to survive a cycle. If you lose it I would not be surprised.....but at least you can know it wasn't you, they are just not all that easy corals. They require good water quality AND lot of tiny planktonic food. A difficult combination for a reef. Most do better in tanks without skimmers and with spot feeding. The problem is you want a lot of food but also want clean water so it is hard to replicate outside of the ocean.

Andi5000 · 01/09/2014, 08:20 AM

I honestly wasnt expecting any of the live rock to have coral. I had a feeling it might be some sort of polyp when I first saw it but was still very unsure. I thought it was dying the first day cuz it shrivelled and the little flower/umbrellas retracted to just look like spots/dots. but as soon as I put the tank light on to check everything out it was out full blooming and blowing in the current. Obviously I'd prefer to have it stay alive but I wont beat myself up if it doesn't make it. Good to know they aren't the easiest to keep (I'll just keep telling myself that lol)
Thanks very much for the help! I'm sure I'll be posting again soon!

Reef monkeys · 01/09/2014, 12:07 PM

Can someone I'd these?

Andi5000 · 01/09/2014, 07:00 PM

I'm sorry to be a pest, 2 days in a row here.
I'd like to know what on earth is on this chunk of live rock I have. Whats the green/white spiky things? and also that red stuff that kinda looks like its taking over/ growing on top of the green/white things?
it was super hard to get a pic and I cant get a better one. This is a cycling tank as well.
Any help would be much appreciated.

P.s. ReeferKimberly you were spot on with that coral, thanks so much. when i was in the shop today they had some that was kinda pinkish! I'm learning so much so fast!

ReeferKimberly · 01/09/2014, 08:40 PM

No problem, happy to help

That 'rock' is an LPS coral skeleton. The pinkish stuff growing could either be part of it trying to come back to life or it could just be coralline algae. Would need a better picture to see if it is actually coral flesh. As far as what kind of LPS, I am guessing a lobophyllia but am not sure without a top-down pic.....does kind of look like flesh though. It might be not 100% dead.

ReeferKimberly · 01/09/2014, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reef monkeys

Can someone I'd these?

You mean the two in the middle towards the bottom? Look like button polyps that are closed up. Rest are zoas.

Andi5000 · 01/09/2014, 09:09 PM

Thanks again ReeferKimberly, I will do my best to get a few better shots for you

Reef monkeys · 01/10/2014, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReeferKimberly

You mean the two in the middle towards the bottom? Look like button polyps that are closed up. Rest are zoas.

Yea the two at the bottom, they have never opened up that's as open as they have gotten in 3 months

LadyDave · 01/11/2014, 08:17 AM

Can someone ID this snail thing? Found it sliding over my live rock.... Pulled it out with a turkey baster and it went into its shell. It's stayed in there since so can't get a pic of it other than in its shell. Do I need to chuck it?? Worried it'll eat my zoas.

Sugar Magnolia · 01/11/2014, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyDave

Can someone ID this snail thing? Found it sliding over my live rock.... Pulled it out with a turkey baster and it went into its shell. It's stayed in there since so can't get a pic of it other than in its shell. Do I need to chuck it?? Worried it'll eat my zoas.

LadyDave · 01/11/2014, 02:03 PM

Does nobody know what this is? It kind of looks like a mussel/cockle from the side but I'm sure it's moving too fast.... It's crawling up the side of the cup I have it in now..... Tried to get a pic and scared it so it retreated again. It's now floating/stuck to the side of the cup with some kind of slimey trail!!

LadyDave · 01/11/2014, 02:12 PM

The dark line down the middle bit facing upwards in the last photo is where it's snailey (I know that's not a word!!) body comes out of!

LadyDave · 01/11/2014, 03:48 PM

I'm about to give up with this..... Here's a closer pic.

Please, someone must know what kind of creature this is???

dorado_bite · 01/11/2014, 04:24 PM

Interesting read

LadyDave · 01/11/2014, 05:32 PM

9 hours later and I finally have an ID. Was beginning to think it was an alien with the lack of responses on here...

Andi5000 · 01/11/2014, 08:14 PM

Ok. Hopefully some easy ones for you awesome ppl on here.

pic 1. red stuff. coral? I've noticed more and more of this rock turning red everyday and theres red growths just like it popping up everywhere. I'm pretty sure it's not coralline as theres some growing on the one side of the rock, this is just such a deep vibrant red!
pic 2. Hoping ReeferKimberly sees this one. I think I got a better pic of the 'flesh'? Might this be coming back on me?
Pic 3. white feathery thingies growing off the rock. This is the biggest spot thus far, keeps getting bigger/longer. Keeper?

Anyhoo, sorry If I'm driving you all crazy, I've actually been able to figure out a lot of stuff on my own (believe it or not lol) but some things, I just don't know where to start looking.
Any info would be very helpful and appreciated!!

Cheers

Mikesull415 · 01/11/2014, 09:31 PM

Did some digging. I think the first one is a squat lobster. Still have no idea about the other two. Any ideas?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikesull415

here's some I'd LOVE to know what they are. All three came in on the same piece of live rock.

SushiGirl · 01/11/2014, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LadyDave

9 hours later and I finally have an ID. Was beginning to think it was an alien with the lack of responses on here...

Everyone isn't on here non-stop all day/all night. 9 hours is not a long time for this kind of thing. I can't see your pics at all on the computer, just on my phone. It's a harmless bivalve.

Andi, 3rd pic are foraminiferans, pic 1 may be also, hard to tell. I'm not any good with baby/recovering coral ID. My album has a lot of pics with names on them you can go through if you're having a hard time finding critters (click on my name, then my Homepage link).

Mike, 1st ID is correct. Have you tried here to see if you can find some of the crabs? Not sure if someone suggested that or not, I've been working too much lately!

ReeferKimberly · 01/11/2014, 11:56 PM

I can never seen tapatalk pics until someone quotes them like sugar did. I guess I will start quoting them even if I don't know what they are. Maybe you upload them somewhere else and put them here, like tumblr? I don't know how tapatalk works really, but I hate it because I can never seen the pictures.

Andi yes that is definitely coral flesh. It has a chance and is not dead yet. I still think it is a lobophyllia. An LPS, not the easiest coral like the softs, especially going through a cycle but you never know

I have no idea what any of those crab/lobsters are but just wanted to say they are very pretty!

01/09/2014, 08:11 AM	#3007
ReeferKimberly Marley & Me Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 1,452	Honestly alveoporas are difficult. Not nearly as difficult as gonioporas though and people have been having a lot more success with those lately. If it is a big cycle it will not be good for the alve at all. It would not come back if it died quickly. It is possible it could make it of course....but the water would have to remain pretty good for it to survive a cycle. If you lose it I would not be surprised.....but at least you can know it wasn't you, they are just not all that easy corals. They require good water quality AND lot of tiny planktonic food. A difficult combination for a reef. Most do better in tanks without skimmers and with spot feeding. The problem is you want a lot of food but also want clean water so it is hard to replicate outside of the ocean. Last edited by ReeferKimberly; 01/09/2014 at 08:19 AM.

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
skimmer: good or bad	Reefingman	Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment	3	06/09/2010 09:04 AM
Good idea or bad idea?	spamin76	Tridacnid Clams and other Mollusks	6	05/25/2004 07:25 AM
Good News and Bad News	rvitko	Tunze	4	12/05/2003 12:43 PM

01/08/2014, 09:34 PM	#3002
ReeferKimberly Marley & Me Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 1,452	Andi I wanna say the second one is an alveopora coral, very similar to goniopora but with 12 'tentacles' rather than 24 on each stock.

01/09/2014, 02:16 AM	#3003
zsxking Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 48	My tank is one month old. I learned about aiptasia recently and there is an anemone like thing on my live rock since I bought it. When touched it would retreat, leaving on a tip visible. Is it aiptasia? Do I need to get rid of it? uploadfromtaptalk1389255363770.jpg

01/09/2014, 02:29 AM	#3004
ReeferKimberly Marley & Me Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 1,452	Yes it is aiptasia and yes you should get rid of it if you want coral. If no coral it does not really much matter (in my personal opinion), just know it will reproduce rapidly and can sting things.

01/09/2014, 05:48 AM	#3005
dzl1 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 18	Panta rhei, thank you for the info. DZL1.

01/09/2014, 08:04 AM	#3006
Andi5000 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 9	Cool! I had a feeling it was a bristle worm, noticed this morning when I woke up that I've for a bristle star as well! To say the least, I'm really excited to pick up some more live rock tonight. Question, since this is the first few days of me having a tank, it's still in the cycling process. will the coral temporarily die off while my water levels bounce around? As I expect that my cycling conditions aren't prime for coral to be growing in the tank already (it's a section about half the size of a dime) Again, I'm a TOTAL newby here! lol

01/09/2014, 08:20 AM	#3008
Andi5000 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 9	I honestly wasnt expecting any of the live rock to have coral. I had a feeling it might be some sort of polyp when I first saw it but was still very unsure. I thought it was dying the first day cuz it shrivelled and the little flower/umbrellas retracted to just look like spots/dots. but as soon as I put the tank light on to check everything out it was out full blooming and blowing in the current. Obviously I'd prefer to have it stay alive but I wont beat myself up if it doesn't make it. Good to know they aren't the easiest to keep (I'll just keep telling myself that lol) Thanks very much for the help! I'm sure I'll be posting again soon!

01/09/2014, 12:07 PM	#3009
Reef monkeys Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Osage, Iowa Posts: 19	Can someone I'd these?

01/09/2014, 08:40 PM	#3011
ReeferKimberly Marley & Me Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 1,452	No problem, happy to help That 'rock' is an LPS coral skeleton. The pinkish stuff growing could either be part of it trying to come back to life or it could just be coralline algae. Would need a better picture to see if it is actually coral flesh. As far as what kind of LPS, I am guessing a lobophyllia but am not sure without a top-down pic.....does kind of look like flesh though. It might be not 100% dead.

01/09/2014, 09:09 PM	#3013
Andi5000 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 9	Thanks again ReeferKimberly, I will do my best to get a few better shots for you

01/11/2014, 08:17 AM	#3015
LadyDave Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 63	Can someone ID this snail thing? Found it sliding over my live rock.... Pulled it out with a turkey baster and it went into its shell. It's stayed in there since so can't get a pic of it other than in its shell. Do I need to chuck it?? Worried it'll eat my zoas.

01/11/2014, 02:03 PM	#3017
LadyDave Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 63	Does nobody know what this is? It kind of looks like a mussel/cockle from the side but I'm sure it's moving too fast.... It's crawling up the side of the cup I have it in now..... Tried to get a pic and scared it so it retreated again. It's now floating/stuck to the side of the cup with some kind of slimey trail!!

01/11/2014, 02:12 PM	#3018
LadyDave Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 63	The dark line down the middle bit facing upwards in the last photo is where it's snailey (I know that's not a word!!) body comes out of!

01/11/2014, 03:48 PM	#3019
LadyDave Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 63	I'm about to give up with this..... Here's a closer pic. Please, someone must know what kind of creature this is???

01/11/2014, 04:24 PM	#3020
dorado_bite Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 5	Interesting read

01/11/2014, 05:32 PM	#3021
LadyDave Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 63	9 hours later and I finally have an ID. Was beginning to think it was an alien with the lack of responses on here...

01/11/2014, 11:56 PM	#3025
ReeferKimberly Marley & Me Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Roseville, California Posts: 1,452	I can never seen tapatalk pics until someone quotes them like sugar did. I guess I will start quoting them even if I don't know what they are. Maybe you upload them somewhere else and put them here, like tumblr? I don't know how tapatalk works really, but I hate it because I can never seen the pictures. Andi yes that is definitely coral flesh. It has a chance and is not dead yet. I still think it is a lobophyllia. An LPS, not the easiest coral like the softs, especially going through a cycle but you never know I have no idea what any of those crab/lobsters are but just wanted to say they are very pretty!