Aquaforest products- Component 1+2+3+

[120reefer]

Originally Posted by ivanotas

Hi 120reefer. My para are as. Kh 7.7, cal 400 and mg 1350. Tested with salifert test kit. My current component 1 2 3 are at 26ml each daily (1.1ml hry). In additional, i dose kh buffer at 50ml daily ( 2.1ml hrly)

Ok so what I'd like to do is get you to transition over to all component 1,2,3. We will do this step by step.

Your kh looks good and calcium is a little low but not bad at all. Mag looks great.

So what I'd like you to do is increase your component +2 up to 50ml per day ( 2.1ml hrly)

Component 1+and component 3+ up to 50ml per day (2.1ml hrly) also.

I want you to cut back your kh buffer dose to 25ml daily (1.1 mil per hrly)


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[120reefer]

The recommend Dkh is 6.0 to 8.0 .

So 7.7dkh is good we just need to match your consumption so you no longer have to dose kh buffer.

This way you will only need components 1,2,3.


We will do this slow and get it right.

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[ivanotas]

Originally Posted by 120reefer

The recommend Dkh is 6.0 to 8.0 .

So 7.7dkh is good we just need to match your consumption so you no longer have to dose kh buffer.

This way you will only need components 1,2,3.


We will do this slow and get it right.

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Hi 120reefer,
Thanks again. Hopefully i can get some mix formulation.

[120reefer]

If you need formulation you can find this in the guide .

http://aquaforest.eu/wp-content/uplo...ide_EN_RGB.pdf


I also made a handy video to help you mix your own components +1,+2,+3





https://youtu.be/EP47ArjSVmw


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[ivanotas]

Originally Posted by 120reefer

You are correct. If you want to bring up your KH you can dose this separately. My personal recommendation is to not increase the DKH more than 1DKH per 24 hour period.

What is your current DKH level? What is your current Calcium level? What is your current Magnesium level?

I will help you stabilize your system

So basically before you start dosing the components 1+, 2+, 3+ you will need to adjust your levels manually to get your system stable. Then once you are stable if your alkalinity or dkh continues to drop you will have to increase the dosing of component +2 to meet the demand.

But first we need to find out how much DKH per day your tank is consuming.

This is where we will start.

So we will need to know what your DKH is today and then we test again tomorrow 24 hours later .




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So do i stop dosing to know how much dkh drop?
From what i measure. With my existing dosing- i am getting a constant of 7.7dkh daily (as per monitored)

[120reefer]

Originally Posted by ivanotas

So do i stop dosing to know how much dkh drop?
From what i measure. With my existing dosing- i am getting a constant of 7.7dkh daily (as per monitored)

Yes you can this way we know how much your consumption is.

You will have to measure each day once every 24 hours at the same time each day.

Then you will have to manually dose to get back to your stable 7.7dkh. Then we can develop our plan to match the demand .


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[ivanotas]

Originally Posted by 120reefer

Yes you can this way we know how much your consumption is.

You will have to measure each day once every 24 hours at the same time each day.

Then you will have to manually dose to get back to your stable 7.7dkh. Then we can develop our plan to match the demand .


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Great! Let me do it this weekend after water change. Then share the result with u. Many Thanks again!

[120reefer]

Your very welcome


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[The Bean]

Hi everyone...i've been tagging along in the background reading into this as i have been having some problems with my system and very, very high calc and magnesium. I have been dosing components 1, 2 and 3 and my doser has ran away with levels (wheels slipping!) and I have only been measuring ALK as my tanks was nailed on for ages ALK 8, CALC 450 and MAG 1400.
My tank is 400ltr with a mix of 75% SPS and 25 %LPS.
I was dosing only 50ml per day all equal.

Cut a long storey short my calc is 500, DKH 8 and MAG 1800.
I have done a 40% water change with the AF Reef salt I always use and stopped dosing all together with just dosing ALK (Not Component 2!).

Question is why is my Calc and Mag not moving even after the time of a month with no dosing and water changes, the tank looks better after the 40% water change and my seriatopora looks better and fluffy again but my levels are still too high to even consider using 1,2 and 3 again?
Do I need to add some trace elements?
My Phos and Nitrate are .015 and 2.5 respectively.
Thanks in advance!
Miles

[The Bean]

Update...Still no 1+2+3+dosing.
Calc now down to 450-475 (two different test/ readings red sea test kit) DKH still in line at 8.4 Magnesium off the scale at 1ml of tyrant used so nearer 2000pmm!

[GoVols]

Originally Posted by The Bean

Question is why is my Calc and Mag not moving

Cal has a lot higher seawater buffer rate than alk and when your cal shot up with the mag the cal maybe buffered even more.

So even though your not seeing cal go down on your test kit (yet), that does not mean your corals are not intaking cal.

Corals use 1 ion of cal to 1 ion of alk for intake.

If your alk stops dropping too, then that would be a whole other problem like low mag.

But... That's JMO

Read link and scroll down to Apparent Excess Demand for Alkalinity

http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2004-12/rhf/index.php

[The Bean]

Originally Posted by The Bean

Hi everyone...i've been tagging along in the background reading into this as i have been having some problems with my system and very, very high calc and magnesium. I have been dosing components 1, 2 and 3 and my doser has ran away with levels (wheels slipping!) and I have only been measuring ALK as my tanks was nailed on for ages ALK 8, CALC 450 and MAG 1400.
My tank is 400ltr with a mix of 75% SPS and 25 %LPS.
I was dosing only 50ml per day all equal.

Cut a long storey short my calc is 500, DKH 8 and MAG 1800.
I have done a 40% water change with the AF Reef salt I always use and stopped dosing all together with just dosing ALK (Not Component 2!).

Question is why is my Calc and Mag not moving even after the time of a month with no dosing and water changes, the tank looks better after the 40% water change and my seriatopora looks better and fluffy again but my levels are still too high to even consider using 1,2 and 3 again?
Do I need to add some trace elements?
My Phos and Nitrate are .015 and 2.5 respectively.
Thanks in advance!
Miles

Okay...many thanks for put reply...problem I have is I'm going on holiday for a week on saturday!! do I just keep dosing All and leave the Calc/ Mag and get my tank sitter to manually dose some trace elements or do I dose again 1+2+3+ in background levels? regards Miles

[120reefer]

Originally Posted by The Bean

Okay...many thanks for put reply...problem I have is I'm going on holiday for a week on saturday!! do I just keep dosing All and leave the Calc/ Mag and get my tank sitter to manually dose some trace elements or do I dose again 1+2+3+ in background levels? regards Miles

Until you return from holiday I would just keep the Alkalinity stable for now.


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[GoVols]

Originally Posted by 120reefer

Until you return from holiday I would just keep the Alkalinity stable for now.

+1

[The Bean]

Okay I'm away now and just left the doser dosing Alk (not AF)....which is 8dkh although my mag is still 1800-2000 (not in test kit range) my calcium was dropping tho to about 460-470 so fingers crossed not dropped too much by the time I get back. I will run components 1+2+3+ in a very low dose if the calc and mag are in range and need buffering and alter the dose on the Alk separately. Does this sound okay? All after a large water change! cheers Miles

[The Bean]

Back from holiday....Alk dropped to 7.2 DKH although dosing still. Its using 40ml a day only with a Alk Buffer which I have mixed to the same ratio as the component 2 ( 50ml per 100ltrs water raises DKH 1.3).
My calcium is now down to 430-440 and my Mag still at 1750ppm after another large water change.
What does AquaForest recommend I do now or anyone for that matter? I have lost 3 millipora which is about 20 percent of my stock.
Do I need to start dosing everything except the MAG and maintain that until mag drops?
Cheers Miles

[120reefer]

Originally Posted by The Bean

Back from holiday....Alk dropped to 7.2 DKH although dosing still. Its using 40ml a day only with a Alk Buffer which I have mixed to the same ratio as the component 2 ( 50ml per 100ltrs water raises DKH 1.3).
My calcium is now down to 430-440 and my Mag still at 1750ppm after another large water change.
What does AquaForest recommend I do now or anyone for that matter? I have lost 3 millipora which is about 20 percent of my stock.
Do I need to start dosing everything except the MAG and maintain that until mag drops?
Cheers Miles

Exactly. Sounds like your on top of it .


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[120reefer]

HAPPY EASTER to everyone!


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[The Bean]

Happy easter reefer! thank you

[serenity]

Can you run 1, 2, 3 without balling method too? I have a 27, do weekly water changes, and run Red Sea Coral Pro Salt Mix. Is running just 1, 2, and 3 a waste of time/money?

Thanks.

[120reefer]

Are you currently meeting the demand s of your tank without dosing and only doing water changes??


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[serenity]

Originally Posted by 120reefer

Are you currently meeting the demand s of your tank without dosing and only doing water changes??


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Thus far yes. Mostly a soft tank, with a couple Monties and a couple SPS, but more towards Zoas.

Waiting for the 10' tank build, so I started a 27 to play with until Jan.

Do you suggest a product you carry that I could dose in conjunction with 1,2,3?

[serenity]

Was looking at dosing the following too.

MAGNESIUM DRY - AQUAFOREST
CALCIUM DRY - AQUAFOREST
kH Buffer Dry - Aquaforest

and considering adding to the supps above.
Component Strong A, B, C, K - Aquaforest

[120reefer]

If your currently meeting your demands then you won't need components 1,2,3 yet. I'd suggest during this time to get the dry components magnesium, calcium, and kh buffer to use as necessary until your demand rises to the level to warrant components 1,2,3

Components A,B,C,K Strong are incorporated in the components 1,2,3.

So once you start using the components 1,2,3 there is no need to dose components A,B,C,K separately.



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[serenity]

Originally Posted by 120reefer

If your currently meeting your demands then you won't need components 1,2,3 yet. I'd suggest during this time to get the dry components magnesium, calcium, and kh buffer to use as necessary until your demand rises to the level to warrant components 1,2,3

Components A,B,C,K Strong are incorporated in the components 1,2,3.

So once you start using the components 1,2,3 there is no need to dose components A,B,C,K separately.



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Fantastic! Thank you very much for your honest help with this. I will go ahead and order this now, and start doing less WC to keep up with the CA, Mg, and Kh.

Looking forward to using 1,2,3 sooner than later! I will just need to fill up the tank with more corals