WOOT lol Odyssea NEEDLE WHEEL skimmer! - Page 13

luke33 · 07/26/2007, 08:29 PM

Evil, if your planning on doing a meshmod on the odyssea pump that comes with the ps75, you will more than likely be able to fit at most 1 layer and you WILL have start up probs. Here's how there pumps go. The wp500, one layer and your ok, the wp700 2 layers ok, three start up probs and the wp1000, 3 layers, starts up every time. But good luck! Its just that the small pumps aren't really geared for mods.

EvilE · 07/26/2007, 09:50 PM

Should I have not bought the mesh then?? I didn't know this.....

chevegan · 07/27/2007, 04:18 AM

as long as you space the zips evenly and cut it thin and symmetrical you should do fine.

luke33 · 07/27/2007, 06:08 AM

Yea, one layer could work, but you may have start up issues. For a pump that small its not going to make a huge difference but will help out a bit. You may want to use fishing string to be lighter, that could help with startup.

ziac · 07/27/2007, 07:03 AM

i have 2 layers of mesh on my ps 75 i use fishing line to attach it I have no start up problems the mesh is the smae size the factory impeller and attached tightly

luke33 · 07/27/2007, 07:28 AM

Well there ya go man, fishing line works! I think the zip ties weigh it down to much on the smaller pumps. Ziac, your usin the pf4 right, and could you tell a big difference when you added the mesh?

ziac · 07/27/2007, 07:30 AM

yes i am useing p4 and it made a big difference i also made the neck out to full 1 1/2 easy mod made skimmer easier to adjust expcialy with the greater amount of air i get

luke33 · 07/27/2007, 07:41 AM

Are you using it as a hot, and have you had any overflows?

EvilE · 07/27/2007, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ziac
i have 2 layers of mesh on my ps 75 i use fishing line to attach it I have no start up problems the mesh is the smae size the factory impeller and attached tightly

Sweet!!!!

pbukow · 07/27/2007, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ziac
yes i am useing p4 and it made a big difference i also made the neck out to full 1 1/2 easy mod made skimmer easier to adjust expcialy with the greater amount of air i get

Care to share with the rest of the class how you made the neck wider?

EvilE · 07/27/2007, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ziac
i have 2 layers of mesh on my ps 75 i use fishing line to attach it I have no start up problems the mesh is the smae size the factory impeller and attached tightly

So you modded the stock EX 250 pump?? Or you upgraded the pump, then modded that??

ziac · 07/27/2007, 11:27 PM

stock ex 250 i will make and post soem pics tomorrow of the mod to the neck

EvilE · 07/28/2007, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by ziac
stock ex 250 i will make and post soem pics tomorrow of the mod to the neck

Thanks!!!

reeftank21 · 07/28/2007, 06:07 PM

Do you think a recirc 200 is enough for a 240? I'm using one now to help cure my live rock and have doubts. I've tried a couple mods but not yet the mesh.

reeftank21 · 07/28/2007, 06:08 PM

sorry wrong thread

jefferzbooboo · 07/29/2007, 08:01 PM

Has anyone tried to put a PS75 in a H.O.B. Refugium?

luke33 · 07/29/2007, 09:24 PM

Jeff, haven't heard of that but i know Chevman has it hangin on his sump. It should work fine, but kind of defeats the purpose of a fuge : ) It'll just pull out the pods and skim them, which isn't what you want.

clevername · 07/30/2007, 10:13 PM

Just FYI for those of you doing the mod, i used 3 layers of enkamat 4 on a genX 2400. I used fishing line and wove it in between and then tied it off. About 4 month later (1 week ago) it came undone and i found the skimmer stopped working.

Point is, tie it REALLY tight and use some type of pliers to really hold it down. I do agree that the small zip ties weigh it down and im still going to use fishing line...

EvilE · 07/30/2007, 10:47 PM

do you glue and use fishing line, or just fishing line?? I got my enkamat today, so I will be modding it this week....need to know what I'm doing first....

EvilE · 07/30/2007, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ziac
stock ex 250 i will make and post soem pics tomorrow of the mod to the neck

where are the pics???

luke33 · 07/31/2007, 05:46 AM

No glue, just fishing line.

Clever, check your genx for rust........as almost all are rusting.

rckrzy1 · 07/31/2007, 08:39 AM

Anyone add a drain to the cup yet ?

rckrzy1 · 07/31/2007, 10:05 AM

On the 90 degree elbow, would it help to angle it to get a nice vortex going in the chamber ?

GS-Rock · 07/31/2007, 04:57 PM

i have a quick question i dont mean to highjack this thread, but i am still reading the first thread not this spit thread, but so far no one asked this question, i plan on getting a skimmer to test not my modding and i want to get a skimmer i will be happy with, what is better to get the jepo 520 or the odyssa 160?

ziac · 07/31/2007, 06:06 PM

sorry i have not posted pics of the neck mod my camera has come up missing as so as it showes i will post them it is not hard to do i took a pice of 1 and 1/2 inch acrylic tube 2 and 1/4 inches long . then o took my dremal tool and ground the inside of the tube down to about a 45 degree angle then i took acrylic craft glue # 33 put a bead around the 45 angle dropped it into the skimmer cup over the neck that is there made sure it was straight and let it set up after it dryed i took my dremial tool and cut out the factory neck till it was opened to my neck neck size and i was done will post pic when my camera showes back up

07/26/2007, 09:50 PM	#302
EvilE Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,944	Should I have not bought the mesh then?? I didn't know this..... __________________ Targzissians Are Obviously Reptilian Current Tank Info: 55 gallon african cichlid FW, 55 Gallon mixed reef SW

07/27/2007, 04:18 AM	#303
chevegan Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Colorado springs, co Posts: 1,614	as long as you space the zips evenly and cut it thin and symmetrical you should do fine. __________________ Everything is copasetic. Reefing on a budget Current Tank Info: Do it right the first time, save up, spend where it counts OR end up another craigslist ad of money lost.--------Why is this hobby so damn expensive??!-------

07/30/2007, 10:13 PM	#318
clevername Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Manchester, MO Posts: 1,125	Just FYI for those of you doing the mod, i used 3 layers of enkamat 4 on a genX 2400. I used fishing line and wove it in between and then tied it off. About 4 month later (1 week ago) it came undone and i found the skimmer stopped working. Point is, tie it REALLY tight and use some type of pliers to really hold it down. I do agree that the small zip ties weigh it down and im still going to use fishing line... __________________ In process: 210gal, VARIOS-8 return, Kessil Lights, 80 gal sump, mp60's, and REGAL 200EXT 8" RECIRCULATING skimmer

07/30/2007, 10:47 PM	#319
EvilE Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,944	do you glue and use fishing line, or just fishing line?? I got my enkamat today, so I will be modding it this week....need to know what I'm doing first.... __________________ Targzissians Are Obviously Reptilian Current Tank Info: 55 gallon african cichlid FW, 55 Gallon mixed reef SW

07/31/2007, 04:57 PM	#324
GS-Rock Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: lawton, ok Posts: 447	i have a quick question i dont mean to highjack this thread, but i am still reading the first thread not this spit thread, but so far no one asked this question, i plan on getting a skimmer to test not my modding and i want to get a skimmer i will be happy with, what is better to get the jepo 520 or the odyssa 160? __________________ soap is magical... Current Tank Info: 2 15g fw planted

07/26/2007, 08:29 PM	#301
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Evil, if your planning on doing a meshmod on the odyssea pump that comes with the ps75, you will more than likely be able to fit at most 1 layer and you WILL have start up probs. Here's how there pumps go. The wp500, one layer and your ok, the wp700 2 layers ok, three start up probs and the wp1000, 3 layers, starts up every time. But good luck! Its just that the small pumps aren't really geared for mods.

07/27/2007, 06:08 AM	#304
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Yea, one layer could work, but you may have start up issues. For a pump that small its not going to make a huge difference but will help out a bit. You may want to use fishing string to be lighter, that could help with startup.

07/27/2007, 07:03 AM	#305
ziac Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: champaign illinois Posts: 339	i have 2 layers of mesh on my ps 75 i use fishing line to attach it I have no start up problems the mesh is the smae size the factory impeller and attached tightly

07/27/2007, 07:28 AM	#306
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Well there ya go man, fishing line works! I think the zip ties weigh it down to much on the smaller pumps. Ziac, your usin the pf4 right, and could you tell a big difference when you added the mesh?

07/27/2007, 07:30 AM	#307
ziac Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: champaign illinois Posts: 339	yes i am useing p4 and it made a big difference i also made the neck out to full 1 1/2 easy mod made skimmer easier to adjust expcialy with the greater amount of air i get

07/27/2007, 07:41 AM	#308
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Are you using it as a hot, and have you had any overflows?

07/27/2007, 11:27 PM	#312
ziac Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: champaign illinois Posts: 339	stock ex 250 i will make and post soem pics tomorrow of the mod to the neck

07/28/2007, 06:07 PM	#314
reeftank21 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 215	Do you think a recirc 200 is enough for a 240? I'm using one now to help cure my live rock and have doubts. I've tried a couple mods but not yet the mesh.

07/28/2007, 06:08 PM	#315
reeftank21 Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 215	sorry wrong thread

07/29/2007, 08:01 PM	#316
jefferzbooboo Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ND Posts: 118	Has anyone tried to put a PS75 in a H.O.B. Refugium?

07/29/2007, 09:24 PM	#317
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	Jeff, haven't heard of that but i know Chevman has it hangin on his sump. It should work fine, but kind of defeats the purpose of a fuge : ) It'll just pull out the pods and skim them, which isn't what you want.

07/31/2007, 05:46 AM	#321
luke33 Moved On Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 8,375	No glue, just fishing line. Clever, check your genx for rust........as almost all are rusting.

07/31/2007, 08:39 AM	#322
rckrzy1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hurst, TX Posts: 219	Anyone add a drain to the cup yet ?

07/31/2007, 10:05 AM	#323
rckrzy1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hurst, TX Posts: 219	On the 90 degree elbow, would it help to angle it to get a nice vortex going in the chamber ?

07/31/2007, 06:06 PM	#325
ziac Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: champaign illinois Posts: 339	sorry i have not posted pics of the neck mod my camera has come up missing as so as it showes i will post them it is not hard to do i took a pice of 1 and 1/2 inch acrylic tube 2 and 1/4 inches long . then o took my dremal tool and ground the inside of the tube down to about a 45 degree angle then i took acrylic craft glue # 33 put a bead around the 45 angle dropped it into the skimmer cup over the neck that is there made sure it was straight and let it set up after it dryed i took my dremial tool and cut out the factory neck till it was opened to my neck neck size and i was done will post pic when my camera showes back up