anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 13

floyd78 · 02/25/2013, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by barry_keith

Floyd, would I be able to pick up a pot like you used at RadioShack?

I'm sure they have one. I got a Pot with the PWM module that I got off of ebay. Just do a search for 24v PWM they are around 10 bucks from china. You just hook it up to the 24 volt lines to the pump. You leave the VA line hooked up to the controller.

tst400 · 02/25/2013, 07:59 PM

So would I be able to controll them with my rkl???

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bhazard451 · 02/25/2013, 08:20 PM

The other way would be to disconnect the VA wire, and hook it up to a 5v PWM output, like the RKL or the Reef Angel.

I'm trying to determine the cleaner/better setup for an Apex. 24v PWM module, or Stevesleds converter.

Bought both. I'll try one on one pump, and one on the other. Steve's can do 2 pumps at once, which is convenient. Then you just need to cut an ethernet cable to wire it to the apex.

serpent · 02/25/2013, 08:34 PM

WOOHOOO! This is awesome now that we can connect to a controller!

serpent · 02/25/2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by bhazard451

The other way would be to disconnect the VA wire, and hook it up to a 5v PWM output, like the RKL or the Reef Angel.

I'm trying to determine the cleaner/better setup for an Apex. 24v PWM module, or Stevesleds converter.

Bought both. I'll try one on one pump, and one on the other. Steve's can do 2 pumps at once, which is convenient. Then you just need to cut an ethernet cable to wire it to the apex.

Which 24v PWM did you get? Thanks.

bhazard451 · 02/25/2013, 09:04 PM

Just some random ebay one that uses wire terminals instead of that 3 wire plug, to make hooking up to an Apex easier.

I'm not exactly sure it would truly work 100% with a 0-10v signal to it, even with a pot on it working right now. It's still a PWM module, and it doesn't mention full 0-10v compatibility anywhere. I think steve's might work better, since it actually converts the signal. That's why I'm going to test both.

serpent · 02/25/2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bhazard451

Just some random ebay one that uses wire terminals instead of that 3 wire plug, to make hooking up to an Apex easier.

I'm not exactly sure it would truly work 100% with a 0-10v signal to it, even with a pot on it working right now. It's still a PWM module, and it doesn't mention full 0-10v compatibility anywhere. I think steve's might work better, since it actually converts the signal. That's why I'm going to test both.

Thanks. I noticed his were on backorder, so I figured I would check other options.

treetopflyn · 02/25/2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by floyd78

Yeah that looks like what you would need to talk to the PWM module.

Cool but it really be needed if I am only using one?

bhazard451 · 02/25/2013, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by treetopflyn

Cool but it really be needed if I am only using one?

I'm pretty sure all you will need to do is attach the VA wire to your reef angel PWM output, and write a program for it to get it running how you want.

Terrance · 02/25/2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonSKL

Well, since I have two WP40s I just can't resist to put both in my 125g to see what they can do. Wow, the fish are struggling to stay in one place. The water surface is like a flowing river and the current in the tank stirred up a mini sand storm. Because the two pumps are not in sync so the waves seemed to cancel out each other but they are moving. I don't think anyone will need more than one in a 125g or less tank. All in all I am very pleased with the WP40. They are quiet and powerful. They seem to be well made and definitely a good value at this time. Now we just need to see how reliable they are and that only time will tell.

Thanks for the video.
Are you going to leave it both in your 125g?

Lordhelmet · 02/26/2013, 12:24 AM

This has done what Vortec said it was going to do, make a low cost controllable pump. Or to put it another way. If tunzee and Vortec are ferrari and Lamborghini, then this pump is the Nissan GTR, the same performance for much much less. Can't wait to set up my next tank!

SimonSKL · 02/26/2013, 07:19 AM

If anyone knows how to control the WP40 with RKE or RKL via the APC module, I will be very interested to know how it is done. I understand the APC module works with Tunze pumps.

Ron Reefman · 02/26/2013, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmet

This has done what Vortec said it was going to do, make a low cost controllable pump. Or to put it another way. If tunzee and Vortec are ferrari and Lamborghini, then this pump is the Nissan GTR, the same performance for much much less. Can't wait to set up my next tank!

Good analogy... I just wonder how many people here would know what a Nissan GTR even is? I was a Toyota guy. But I'd put my old MR2 up against a Nissan GTR in a race.

Me at the SCCA 1995 National Championships.

tomservo · 02/26/2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by floyd78

I'm sure they have one. I got a Pot with the PWM module that I got off of ebay. Just do a search for 24v PWM they are around 10 bucks from china. You just hook it up to the 24 volt lines to the pump. You leave the VA line hooked up to the controller.

This may work, but without knowing how the pump motor works it's probably a bad idea to chop up the DC volts to the pump. The pump was designed to take a 5v PWM signal to control speed so there is logic in the wet end, stuffing PWM down it's throat without knowing the design is likely to result in a failure. The voltage regulator for the logic in the pump was designed to take smooth 24v DC and make it (probably) 5v; it was not designed to take a series of voltage spikes as input.

Redngold · 02/26/2013, 07:53 AM

Hoping to see one of these working on an apex soon! I'll have to pull the trigger on one then.

SimonSKL · 02/26/2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrance

Thanks for the video.
Are you going to leave it both in your 125g?

No, I am buying the WP40s for my 92 gal corner tank. Here is a video with one WP40 in W1 mode in my 92g tank. I also have a Koralia PH running in the opposite direction. The WP40 is plugged into my RKE system which runs the pump for 30 sec and off for 15 sec. If I run the WP40 continuously I am afraid the waves will be spilling over the rim.

Sorry for the loud TV background noise. I have a speaker right on top of the tank.

bhazard451 · 02/26/2013, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Redngold

Hoping to see one of these working on an apex soon! I'll have to pull the trigger on one then.

Once I get my 0-10v converter around march 11th or so, I'll test it and make a tutorial on it, unless someone else can do one quicker.

amutti · 02/26/2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by floyd78

Ok Guys! I got my MP40 today and it works great! I quickly went to modding it to try and figure out if I could control it with PWM. It worked like a charm I am able to control the intensity of all modes. The awesome part about all of this is that I can control it with any 0-10v controller IE Apex. The crappy part is that I sold my Apex JR awhile back with my DIY LED's. Looks like I will be buying one soon as well as a VDM module.
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So you took the heatsinks off the PVMs and pushed them over so they would fit?

floyd78 · 02/26/2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by amutti

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Originally Posted by floyd78

Ok Guys! I got my MP40 today and it works great! I quickly went to modding it to try and figure out if I could control it with PWM. It worked like a charm I am able to control the intensity of all modes. The awesome part about all of this is that I can control it with any 0-10v controller IE Apex. The crappy part is that I sold my Apex JR awhile back with my DIY LED's. Looks like I will be buying one soon as well as a VDM module.
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they were already pushed over

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Terrance · 02/26/2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SimonSKL

No, I am buying the WP40s for my 92 gal corner tank. Here is a video with one WP40 in W1 mode in my 92g tank. I also have a Koralia PH running in the opposite direction. The WP40 is plugged into my RKE system which runs the pump for 30 sec and off for 15 sec. If I run the WP40 continuously I am afraid the waves will be spilling over the rim.

Sorry for the loud TV background noise. I have a speaker right on top of the tank.

Thanks again for the feedback and video. You probably have several dozens of people watching your video and reading your feedback before buying a WP40.

I hope the WP40 is built to be turned on/off constantly. Some powerheads are not meant to be used like that.

SimonSKL · 02/26/2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrance

Thanks again for the feedback and video. You probably have several dozens of people watching your video and reading your feedback before buying a WP40.

I hope the WP40 is built to be turned on/off constantly. Some powerheads are not meant to be used like that.

True. But since the pump has a wave mode, W1, which the pump stops and starts in short cycle (the propeller actually comes to a complete stop in each cycle), I figure it should be able to handle the on and off cycle. This may be a true test for the pump in this regard. So far it has been running like that without any problem.

amutti · 02/26/2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by floyd78

they were already pushed over

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I can't find any 24V PVMs like that? Oh well.

jrp1588 · 02/26/2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lordhelmet

This has done what Vortec said it was going to do, make a low cost controllable pump. Or to put it another way. If tunzee and Vortec are ferrari and Lamborghini, then this pump is the Nissan GTR, the same performance for much much less. Can't wait to set up my next tank!

Except the gtr is still really expensive. If say it's more like a mustang with a big turbo and fully upgraded suspension. It'll give those ferraris a run for their money, but it's about as refined as a wooden club. Haha

SimonSKL · 02/26/2013, 10:16 AM

Some of you have been running the pump for a couple weeks, any problem so far?

bhazard451 · 02/26/2013, 10:31 AM

Waiting stinks. I'm anxious to get this thing up and running on my Apex, yet I have no idea how to program it when I do. lol

02/25/2013, 08:20 PM	#303
bhazard451 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,900	The other way would be to disconnect the VA wire, and hook it up to a 5v PWM output, like the RKL or the Reef Angel. I'm trying to determine the cleaner/better setup for an Apex. 24v PWM module, or Stevesleds converter. Bought both. I'll try one on one pump, and one on the other. Steve's can do 2 pumps at once, which is convenient. Then you just need to cut an ethernet cable to wire it to the apex. Last edited by bhazard451; 02/25/2013 at 08:27 PM.

02/26/2013, 12:24 AM	#311
Lordhelmet Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 2,008	This has done what Vortec said it was going to do, make a low cost controllable pump. Or to put it another way. If tunzee and Vortec are ferrari and Lamborghini, then this pump is the Nissan GTR, the same performance for much much less. Can't wait to set up my next tank! __________________ I need a new signiture Current Tank Info: 90 gallon, 14 gallon

02/26/2013, 07:19 AM	#312
SimonSKL Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Danville, IL Posts: 1,918	If anyone knows how to control the WP40 with RKE or RKL via the APC module, I will be very interested to know how it is done. I understand the APC module works with Tunze pumps. __________________ Simon Mixed LPS and SPS corals Camera - Canon T2i with EF100mm 2.8f USM macro lens Current Tank Info: AG 92g corner tank and Marineland 125g, RKE controllers, Maxspect and Eshine LEDs, MP40WES, Jebo WP40 & WP25

02/26/2013, 10:16 AM	#324
SimonSKL Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Danville, IL Posts: 1,918	Some of you have been running the pump for a couple weeks, any problem so far? __________________ Simon Mixed LPS and SPS corals Camera - Canon T2i with EF100mm 2.8f USM macro lens Current Tank Info: AG 92g corner tank and Marineland 125g, RKE controllers, Maxspect and Eshine LEDs, MP40WES, Jebo WP40 & WP25

02/25/2013, 07:59 PM	#302
tst400 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: phoenix az Posts: 184	So would I be able to controll them with my rkl??? Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2

02/25/2013, 08:34 PM	#304
serpent Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: GA Posts: 78	WOOHOOO! This is awesome now that we can connect to a controller!

02/25/2013, 09:04 PM	#306
bhazard451 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,900	Just some random ebay one that uses wire terminals instead of that 3 wire plug, to make hooking up to an Apex easier. I'm not exactly sure it would truly work 100% with a 0-10v signal to it, even with a pot on it working right now. It's still a PWM module, and it doesn't mention full 0-10v compatibility anywhere. I think steve's might work better, since it actually converts the signal. That's why I'm going to test both.

02/26/2013, 07:53 AM	#315
Redngold Registered Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 71	Hoping to see one of these working on an apex soon! I'll have to pull the trigger on one then.

02/26/2013, 10:31 AM	#325
bhazard451 Registered Member. Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,900	Waiting stinks. I'm anxious to get this thing up and running on my Apex, yet I have no idea how to program it when I do. lol