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Unread 07/25/2012, 06:31 PM   #3226
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Need to get better pics uploaded I will have better ones up in a little while. Those are hella small. Tapatalk is crap.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 06:32 PM   #3227
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Different types. Eshine is usually pretty expensive for what you get.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 06:39 PM   #3228
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bhazzaard.. i was trying to order the one from twilight with like 80 leds in it. now im thinking im better off with the usa made like your showing above. for 50 bucks more apex controllable. twlight wanted 315.00

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Unread 07/25/2012, 06:41 PM   #3229
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Let us know how it goes bhazard. If I am not happy with them, more than likely I will send them back. Are there any other mfr that have the dimmer control like these?


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Unread 07/25/2012, 06:57 PM   #3230
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Let us know how it goes bhazard. If I am not happy with them, more than likely I will send them back. Are there any other mfr that have the dimmer control like these?
They might not all be like this, especially if you created your own grid on how you wanted them arranged.

My whites might be underpowered, or have a faulty driver. If they are supposed to be brighter, it would fix the color and output issues I'm having.

Evergrow is making their own light with controller soon. All the other Chinese fixtures I've seen with a controller are expensive, and priced on par with an AI Sol.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 06:59 PM   #3231
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Are you going to contact Twilight or try to fix on your own?


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:03 PM   #3232
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Sorry to hear the disappointment on the Twilight.. I was waiting to see how they are compared to the d120.

I been running my whites are less than 30% and the blue at 50%. Almost a month now and everything is great. I doubt I will go 100% on whites or blues on the d120. It is very bright right now and hurts the eyes (if you stare at it! LOL). Hopefully the corals that I have continue to show improvement.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:12 PM   #3233
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Sorry to hear the disappointment on the Twilight.. I was waiting to see how they are compared to the d120.

I been running my whites are less than 30% and the blue at 50%. Almost a month now and everything is great. I doubt I will go 100% on whites or blues on the d120. It is very bright right now and hurts the eyes (if you stare at it! LOL). Hopefully the corals that I have continue to show improvement.
Yeah, the brightness difference is what really disappoints me. The Evergrows are BRIGHT, where these seem almost half as bright. I guess Evergrow really does use a good Bridgelux bin, compared to these Epistars. Very noticeable difference.

Could be a bad light though. Would like to hear if others who have ordered from Twilight are experiencing the same thing.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:22 PM   #3234
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Let me try asking this again. What lighting schedule is everyone finding to work well on the LED fixtures? Specifically I have the dual-dimmable d120's, i.e, separate dimmers for blue and white. What has been found to work long-term with these fixtures? Thanks.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:25 PM   #3235
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Let me try asking this again. What lighting schedule is everyone finding to work well on the LED fixtures? Specifically I have the dual-dimmable d120's, i.e, separate dimmers for blue and white. What has been found to work long-term with these fixtures? Thanks.
I run mine for 12-14 hours with no issues. I would previously only run my MH/T5 for 6-8 hours because it would heat the tank too much. No heat issues with leds.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:42 PM   #3236
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Are you going to contact Twilight or try to fix on your own?
Already contacted. Waiting to see what can be done.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:49 PM   #3237
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Please keep us updated. I will let you know tomorrow how mine turned out. Did you release the funds in the aliexpress escrow account? If they won't do anything to correct the problem you should be able to hold their funds.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:52 PM   #3238
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Let me try asking this again. What lighting schedule is everyone finding to work well on the LED fixtures? Specifically I have the dual-dimmable d120's, i.e, separate dimmers for blue and white. What has been found to work long-term with these fixtures? Thanks.
At the moment I am running my lights total 10/11 hours. Probably do a max of 12 with 6/7 hours of day and 3/4 sunrise/sunset.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:56 PM   #3239
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Problem is, I got what I asked for. It just happens to look like complete **** the way they arranged it, and the led quality is subpar. They made no attempt to actually make it look good.

I'm better off trying to fix it myself.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 07:59 PM   #3240
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Different types. Eshine is usually pretty expensive for what you get.
is these real cree leds (original )

and do u mean they are more expensive than other cree fixtures ?


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Unread 07/25/2012, 09:28 PM   #3241
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does any one tried this seller it seems he have the same d 120 box but with very discounted price
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/prod...404394550.html


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Unread 07/25/2012, 09:41 PM   #3242
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does any one tried this seller it seems he have the same d 120 box but with very discounted price
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/prod...404394550.html
Yes, those are fine. You might want to get something with more than just blue:white though if they can customize it for you.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 09:50 PM   #3243
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i havent hung mine yet because I'm still trying to figure out how i want to do it. the reason i went with the a4's over the a6 or a8 is the a4's fit perfectly over my 24x24 openings created by my braces. i have to braces creating 3 spaces 24x24 and the 3 a4's fit right in there and will light them well
once i get them up and running ill take and post pictures
Wish I had that kind of opening, my tank only has two openings and its pretty small hence looking for something that has more power with more spread


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Unread 07/25/2012, 09:54 PM   #3244
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Bhazzrad. I had twilight setting up custom 180 80 pc led .. Now telling them. Need mre specifics and layout posted. To the link. I was going to trust them on layout. But to any longer given our issue. Should I ask them what bin LEDs they use ect.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 10:10 PM   #3245
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Bhazard what power do you recommend starting these on? Percentage wise.
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Unread 07/25/2012, 10:18 PM   #3246
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Bhazzrad. I had twilight setting up custom 180 80 pc led .. Now telling them. Need mre specifics and layout posted. To the link. I was going to trust them on layout. But to any longer given our issue. Should I ask them what bin LEDs they use ect.
Don't even bother. There are much better options available.

They refuse to do anything for my light, and basically said there is nothing wrong and its my problem. My problem is now I have a terrible looking light that I now have to modify with new, better leds to look acceptable.

Go with the Apollo light. You said you have an Apex, and its a much better light with an actual warranty.


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Unread 07/25/2012, 11:24 PM   #3247
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Ok, I have decided to go with the A8 model x 2

Color ratio the simple 48:48 ratio (please stop me if there is something better)

Just doing my final negotiation with evergrow and will see what happends.


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Unread 07/26/2012, 05:02 AM   #3248
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Pull the trigger and the lights have been ordered.

Hope it arrives next week, I will post pic once I have them setup


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Unread 07/26/2012, 05:34 AM   #3249
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No I was looking for a link where you bought them from
I did a GB direct with e.shine.


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Unread 07/26/2012, 05:59 AM   #3250
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Yeah, the brightness difference is what really disappoints me. The Evergrows are BRIGHT, where these seem almost half as bright. I guess Evergrow really does use a good Bridgelux bin, compared to these Epistars. Very noticeable difference.

Could be a bad light though. Would like to hear if others who have ordered from Twilight are experiencing the same thing.

I have ordered 4 lights Which are due to be shipped tomorrow. I am very concerned although my layout and ratio is more 1:1. Fingers crossed


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