anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 130

Sacohen · 05/28/2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chrislPa

I run mine at full power. Using a RK controller to cut power at night. It may go a week at a time and retain the setting I run on. Then the next couple of days it will reset. Seems to be hit or miss.

You have yours hooked up to a ReefKeeper?
This is the first time I've heard of anyone using it with a ReefKeeper.
Is there a tutorial some where for other ReefKeeper owners?

SimonSKL · 05/28/2013, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

You have yours hooked up to a ReefKeeper?
This is the first time I've heard of anyone using it with a ReefKeeper.
Is there a tutorial some where for other ReefKeeper owners?

I plugged my two WPs to my RKE controller also but I just use it to control on and off times as well as turning them off at night.

RKE has a APC module compatible with Tunze pumps but I don't know if it will be able to control a WP40. May be someone with experience with APC can chime in.

Sacohen · 05/28/2013, 06:17 PM

I've been following this thread and the WP25 (along with some others) since the beginning and I don't recall anyone controlling the speed of the WP's with an RK.

I may be wrong, but I don't remember seeing it.

salty joe · 05/29/2013, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidinGA

I have had a wp40 running for about 2 months now and just got a second one last week. I can say the second one is operating much stronger than the original one. I guess over time the first one has lost some power...??? I hadn't really noticed the power loss until I plugged in the new one and was like WHOA that's a big difference! I probably need to clean my original and see if that's the problem.....

David, were you able to ascertain why your pump lost power?

chercm · 05/29/2013, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by treetopflyn

Ill try to post tonight. I have the knob almost all the way to the right and I am running at 19.5 volts

Your tank pix please

chercm · 05/29/2013, 07:31 AM

Any other reefers can upload your tank pix with the wp40 please ?

70ss · 05/29/2013, 07:49 AM

Youtube search results for tanks with wp40. http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...be.pqGZyavy1oI

chrislPa · 05/29/2013, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sacohen

You have yours hooked up to a ReefKeeper?
This is the first time I've heard of anyone using it with a ReefKeeper.
Is there a tutorial some where for other ReefKeeper owners?

I only use it for night mode. Nothing else. Sorry for the confusion.

Sacohen · 05/29/2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chrislPa

I only use it for night mode. Nothing else. Sorry for the confusion.

Is the speed being controlled by the ReefKeeper or is it just an on/off like SimonSKL had?

chrislPa · 05/29/2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

Is the speed being controlled by the ReefKeeper or is it just an on/off like SimonSKL had?

It's just used for on/off.

Sacohen · 05/29/2013, 09:15 AM

Oh Ok. That's fine. Like I said. I don't believe anyone has gotten the WP-40 (or 25) to be controlled speed wise by the Reef Keeper yet, but I'm sure there are people working on it.

ingtar_shinowa · 05/29/2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by treetopflyn

I will be adding another 40 for the opposite side of the tank to simulate tidal flow

Hey tree, I have a 125 im finishing off. Are you getting dead spots and thats why you are adding another on the far side. From most the videos I;ve watched people seem to get solid movement. I was thinking about using two on the same wall like in a peninsula style tank though I'm aquascaping pillars and ledges. I was also thinking about using 25s once the kinks get straightened out.

What do you think?

Dactylopterus · 05/29/2013, 10:37 AM

Yes, you can control up to 4 WP40-25 pumps with the APC module, but you have to add two resistors to the cable adapter that act as a voltage divider to convert to 0-5V, is the same mod used on the APEX controller.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2283594

Tunze(R) Pump Control
The primary purpose for the Advanced Pump Controller (APC) it so control the Tunze brand stream pumps. This module allows you to integrate these pumps into your system and control them via your ReefKeeper (Lite or Elite).
Storm Mode Integration
The APC allows you to integrate these pumps with our new storm mode feature allowing for the generation of turbulent flow.
Night Mode
The APC has special options at night to calm your tank to simulate the stillness of the evening hours in your aquarium. This gives fish the ability to rest.
Multiple Modes
With a master/slave mode as well as sequential you'll fine the APC paired with the ReefKeeper has you covered!

treetopflyn · 05/29/2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ingtar_shinowa

Hey tree, I have a 125 im finishing off. Are you getting dead spots and thats why you are adding another on the far side. From most the videos I;ve watched people seem to get solid movement. I was thinking about using two on the same wall like in a peninsula style tank though I'm aquascaping pillars and ledges. I was also thinking about using 25s once the kinks get straightened out.

What do you think?

No dead spots I just don't like all the flow going in one direction all the time. I would do two for alternating flow direction. I would also go with 40s to give you the option of more flow when/if you need it. Example mine is dialed back but once a week I run it at full power to clean things out

Sacohen · 05/29/2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dactylopterus

Yes, you can control up to 4 WP40-25 pumps with the APC module, but you have to add two resistors to the cable adapter that act as a voltage divider to convert to 0-5V, is the same mod used on the APEX controller.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2283594

Tunze(R) Pump Control
The primary purpose for the Advanced Pump Controller (APC) it so control the Tunze brand stream pumps. This module allows you to integrate these pumps into your system and control them via your ReefKeeper (Lite or Elite).
Storm Mode Integration
The APC allows you to integrate these pumps with our new storm mode feature allowing for the generation of turbulent flow.
Night Mode
The APC has special options at night to calm your tank to simulate the stillness of the evening hours in your aquarium. This gives fish the ability to rest.
Multiple Modes
With a master/slave mode as well as sequential you'll fine the APC paired with the ReefKeeper has you covered!

Thanks Dactylopterus it's good to know that the WP40 and probably 25 can work on the Reef Keeper controllers as well as the Apex and Reef Angel.

vbsaltydog · 05/29/2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dactylopterus

Yes, you can control up to 4 WP40-25 pumps with the APC module, but you have to add two resistors to the cable adapter that act as a voltage divider to convert to 0-5V, is the same mod used on the APEX controller.

I have seen this mentioned a few times and a voltage divider should not be needed. If the controller is capable of 0-10v output and the pump accepts 0-5v input then simply run the controller at 50% power to achieve 100% power at the pump.

offshored · 05/29/2013, 11:45 AM

Just bought 4

Should be here in a few days.

rrasco · 05/29/2013, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vbsaltydog

I have seen this mentioned a few times and a voltage divider should not be needed. If the controller is capable of 0-10v output and the pump accepts 0-5v input then simply run the controller at 50% power to achieve 100% power at the pump.

It's not required, you can do what you said, but it's "safer" to not have to worry about burning up the control pin by sending more than 5V.

vbsaltydog · 05/29/2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rrasco

It's not required, you can do what you said, but it's "safer" to not have to worry about burning up the control pin by sending more than 5V.

I was simply letting people know that a voltage divider is not required as a few posts have suggested. Not everyone is comfortable with modifying electronic circuits and for them, its easier to remember the maximum power setting of 50% from the controller to the pump. Its nice to have options.

ingtar_shinowa · 05/29/2013, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by treetopflyn

No dead spots I just don't like all the flow going in one direction all the time. I would do two for alternating flow direction. I would also go with 40s to give you the option of more flow when/if you need it. Example mine is dialed back but once a week I run it at full power to clean things out

nice, thanks for the input. I'll be using a RA controller so it should be pretty sweet.

rrasco · 05/29/2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by vbsaltydog

I was simply letting people know that a voltage divider is not required as a few posts have suggested. Not everyone is comfortable with modifying electronic circuits and for them, its easier to remember the maximum power setting of 50% from the controller to the pump. Its nice to have options.

That's fine, I was simply letting them know there could be consequences if you forget to calculate the percentage correctly. I wasn't harping on you. Better safe than sorry IMO.

vbsaltydog · 05/29/2013, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rrasco

That's fine, I was simply letting them know there could be consequences if you forget to calculate the percentage correctly. I wasn't harping on you. Better safe than sorry IMO.

No worries.

Dactylopterus · 05/29/2013, 03:45 PM

When using the dashboard on the APEX is easy to go from OFF to ON (100%) instead of AUTO sending a 10V signal to the pump. Its better to be safe and do the resistor mod, it's very easy and is well explained on the thread I posted before

insanefishguy · 05/29/2013, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ingtar_shinowa

Hey tree, I have a 125 im finishing off. Are you getting dead spots and thats why you are adding another on the far side. From most the videos I;ve watched people seem to get solid movement. I was thinking about using two on the same wall like in a peninsula style tank though I'm aquascaping pillars and ledges. I was also thinking about using 25s once the kinks get straightened out.

What do you think?

I run two in my 125 mixed reef on opposite ends. One is on w3. The other is on else. It took me weeks here and there to get all my lps inflating happy and not getting too much flow. Now my sps are happy as all get out and my lps are fully inflated and happy. Only problem is the sand blown away in a small part of the front center of the tank. Some zoas will cover that up. But at full blast angled right two can be done with patience and small adjustments. Once or twice a week I switch modes to for a few hours

ingtar_shinowa · 05/29/2013, 08:12 PM

Nice fish great info! Thank you. My current 125g I just whimped out and did vortechs. I've always had a hard time understanding flow.

05/28/2013, 06:17 PM	#3228
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	I've been following this thread and the WP25 (along with some others) since the beginning and I don't recall anyone controlling the speed of the WP's with an RK. I may be wrong, but I don't remember seeing it. __________________ Steve Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Mixed Reef

05/29/2013, 09:15 AM	#3236
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	Oh Ok. That's fine. Like I said. I don't believe anyone has gotten the WP-40 (or 25) to be controlled speed wise by the Reef Keeper yet, but I'm sure there are people working on it. __________________ Steve Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Mixed Reef

05/29/2013, 10:37 AM	#3238
Dactylopterus Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 231	ReefKeeper controlled WP40-WP25 Yes, you can control up to 4 WP40-25 pumps with the APC module, but you have to add two resistors to the cable adapter that act as a voltage divider to convert to 0-5V, is the same mod used on the APEX controller. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh....php?t=2283594 Tunze(R) Pump Control The primary purpose for the Advanced Pump Controller (APC) it so control the Tunze brand stream pumps. This module allows you to integrate these pumps into your system and control them via your ReefKeeper (Lite or Elite). Storm Mode Integration The APC allows you to integrate these pumps with our new storm mode feature allowing for the generation of turbulent flow. Night Mode The APC has special options at night to calm your tank to simulate the stillness of the evening hours in your aquarium. This gives fish the ability to rest. Multiple Modes With a master/slave mode as well as sequential you'll fine the APC paired with the ReefKeeper has you covered! Last edited by Dactylopterus; 05/29/2013 at 10:43 AM.

05/29/2013, 07:31 AM	#3231
chercm Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,971	Any other reefers can upload your tank pix with the wp40 please ?

05/29/2013, 07:49 AM	#3232
70ss Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: PA Posts: 86	Youtube search results for tanks with wp40. http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...be.pqGZyavy1oI

05/29/2013, 11:45 AM	#3242
offshored RC Sponsor Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Austin, Tx Posts: 437	Just bought 4 Should be here in a few days.

05/29/2013, 03:45 PM	#3248
Dactylopterus Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 231	When using the dashboard on the APEX is easy to go from OFF to ON (100%) instead of AUTO sending a 10V signal to the pump. Its better to be safe and do the resistor mod, it's very easy and is well explained on the thread I posted before

05/29/2013, 08:12 PM	#3250
ingtar_shinowa Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Billings MT Posts: 1,610	Nice fish great info! Thank you. My current 125g I just whimped out and did vortechs. I've always had a hard time understanding flow.