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Unread 06/27/2013, 12:10 PM   #3451
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My WP40 has been running in my tank for over a month now. I am running it stock 100%. I thought that it would quiet down after a few weeks of running and I have to say that mine is just as loud as the day I bought it. I have taken it apart and made sure that the shaft was in the correct postion and still the same results. When I run in all modes except low I can hear it.

As far as I am concerned this product is what I expected and I would buy another if I needed one. Just hoping I won't have to use my spare I purchased.
Perhaps you can run your spare and see if its any quieter. If so, then just leave the noisier one as the spare.


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Unread 06/27/2013, 01:53 PM   #3452
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Have you open it up and clean out the two ends of the impeller?

The first month mine was pretty loud too, until I decided to take it out and cleaned it. The noise now is significantly quieter. I have to get really cost to my tank to hear it.

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My WP40 has been running in my tank for over a month now. I am running it stock 100%. I thought that it would quiet down after a few weeks of running and I have to say that mine is just as loud as the day I bought it. I have taken it apart and made sure that the shaft was in the correct postion and still the same results. When I run in all modes except low I can hear it.

This is not a great big problem for me since my tank is in the living room in the basement so we are not around it all the time. Second the sound of the water entering the overflow mask the sound as well. I will try the new controller from FS to see if that works out. Well maybe I can't order one from FS so I am open for offers from some one willing to sell me one. I really like the flow I am seeing in W1 mode but the under tow is too much so I have to leave it in else or low.

As far as I am concerned this product is what I expected and I would buy another if I needed one. Just hoping I won't have to use my spare I purchased.



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Unread 06/28/2013, 09:47 AM   #3453
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I just got a new anemone and am running two wp40's and want to anemone proof them as best I can. Does anyone know if the Ecotech Marine VorTech Foam Cover for MP40 will fit on our wp40's?

http://www.marinedepot.com/Ecotech_M...FIPHRP-vi.html






Or would I be better served with a DIY project like this:

http://www.aquariumoverload.com/powe...moneguard.html





I would imagine the plastic mesh would be the better long term solution as it won't need to be cleaned/maintained like the foam...


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Unread 06/28/2013, 09:50 AM   #3454
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Unread 06/28/2013, 09:53 AM   #3455
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Unread 06/28/2013, 09:58 AM   #3456
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Theyre cheap so I just threw away the pieces every week or so. Just whenever they were dirty. After a month or so of my nem staying put I removed them.


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Unread 06/28/2013, 10:01 AM   #3457
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Longevity?
You don't need them to last too long, the PH should be anemone safe for the introduction period. After that it should not move too much, how deep is your tank? My pH are usually up high far from rock and sand.



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Unread 06/28/2013, 12:09 PM   #3458
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You don't need them to last too long, the PH should be anemone safe for the introduction period. After that it should not move too much, how deep is your tank? My pH are usually up high far from rock and sand.
30" tall I believe and ya I have the ph up high


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Unread 06/28/2013, 12:24 PM   #3459
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Does anyone have a layout of pro's and con's for the 40 vs the 25 and vice versa. From what I've read the big one is obviously the big one eye sore vs the smaller 25. But is there more intigrated into the 25 as far as functionality goes due to its second generation status and such a closeness in price. Obviously I want more power but it seems the smaller 25 is becoming the better way to go.?. I have a 90g with a good 6 PH in it right now mixed between evolutions and sicce and still have a few dead spots despite running an open rock scape. I would be happy to trade these up for a single pump that would work. Just torn between the 40&25. Any info to help make the decision on which to go with greatly appreciated. Thanks


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Unread 06/28/2013, 12:40 PM   #3460
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No there is no new functionality unless you consider the speed control on the W1 setting a significant change, but I'm sure that the new WP-40's will have the new controller too.


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Unread 06/28/2013, 01:26 PM   #3461
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I belive they both use the same controller now, I have the WP40 with the speed control for the W1 setting. These are a good size but better than the 2 Koralias that it's replacing


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Unread 06/28/2013, 01:50 PM   #3462
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I belive they both use the same controller now, I have the WP40 with the speed control for the W1 setting. These are a good size but better than the 2 Koralias that it's replacing
Yeah it depends where you get it from.
Fish-Street goes through so many that they have the new controllers, but the guy on E-bay who bought 100 of them when they first came out and still has 50 is going to have the old controller and won't get the new controller for you.


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Unread 06/28/2013, 03:47 PM   #3463
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So is that the best place to aquire one? Fish-street? I saw you can get the new controller for like $13 and that the stock controller now has 12 settings/modes from fish-street only(from what I understood from the writen text) is that all I will need to get from him-the pump and the variable speed controller added on and im set(until I hook it to the apex anyways)???it also seemed there were other parts you can get for free?? The rubber shaft cap mod for quiteing the pump from him also. Its hard to understand what's goin on on his site. I was also thinking I would keep 2 of the hydors hidden in the rock for random flow so im guessing a 25 would work quite nicely in my 90g???from the videos I've seen anyways.


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Unread 06/28/2013, 07:08 PM   #3464
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I like the demos I saw on youtube. Sold! I ordered a WP40 today for my new 125g. I was afraid if I didnt get it now this product may longer not be available or go up in price. It really is too good to be true! I had gotten 2 Koralia 1400s with the smart wave controller because like most, believed the manufacturer on the new pump being silent. Returned the pumps today as well. Ill probly craglist the controller.


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Unread 06/28/2013, 07:32 PM   #3465
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I was afraid if I didnt get it now this product may longer not be available or go up in price. It really is too good to be true!
Its not too good to be true. Its just about right to be true.

Based on the build of materials (BOM), they are probably making a ~100% profit which is pretty normal for retail.

The other pumps that you are used to seeing with much higher price tags have better circuits (audible alarms when stuck, thermal/run dry shutdown protections) and better customer support and/or enforceable patents that prohibit others from manufacturing their protected design which leads to inflated margins on those proprietary units.


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Unread 06/28/2013, 09:01 PM   #3466
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Just got my WP40 in today, I have a question for all you current users. The pump is making a nasty vibration/ chatter noise even on the low night mode setting. Anyone have experience with this ? I tried pulling the pump off the bracket but it still makes the noise and I feel it in my hand . It's almost like the blade is hitting the cage exterior


Ill try to disassemble it tomorrow ... New issue which i find very odd .. The light sensor was working perfectly, I have the control on my canopy and the sensor was reading the light reflecting off the wall..
Now the sensor works backwards ! Light turns the pump off ! Darkness turns it on and then my finger over the sensor turns it off , I'm so confused



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Unread 06/28/2013, 10:12 PM   #3467
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grabbed two of these for my 155g wave mode is cool


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Unread 06/28/2013, 10:18 PM   #3468
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Just got my WP40 in today, I have a question for all you current users. The pump is making a nasty vibration/ chatter noise even on the low night mode setting. Anyone have experience with this ? I tried pulling the pump off the bracket but it still makes the noise and I feel it in my hand . It's almost like the blade is hitting the cage exterior


Ill try to disassemble it tomorrow ... New issue which i find very odd .. The light sensor was working perfectly, I have the control on my canopy and the sensor was reading the light reflecting off the wall..
Now the sensor works backwards ! Light turns the pump off ! Darkness turns it on and then my finger over the sensor turns it off , I'm so confused
Pull the shroud off the pump and make sure both bushings are pushed in all the way, there is one on the shroud and the other is in the pump


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Unread 06/28/2013, 10:20 PM   #3469
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Also what lights do you have on your tank? To much light hitting the sensor can damage it, im guessing thats what happened


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Unread 06/29/2013, 07:03 AM   #3470
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Just got my WP40 in today, I have a question for all you current users. The pump is making a nasty vibration/ chatter noise even on the low night mode setting. Anyone have experience with this ? I tried pulling the pump off the bracket but it still makes the noise and I feel it in my hand . It's almost like the blade is hitting the cage exterior


Ill try to disassemble it tomorrow ... New issue which i find very odd .. The light sensor was working perfectly, I have the control on my canopy and the sensor was reading the light reflecting off the wall..
Now the sensor works backwards ! Light turns the pump off ! Darkness turns it on and then my finger over the sensor turns it off , I'm so confused
Someone found some better photocells @ Radio Snack
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062590


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Unread 06/29/2013, 07:20 AM   #3471
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Someone found some better photocells @ Radio Snack
http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...ductId=2062590
The link doesn't take you to the cell but using the info from it you can find it....go to radioshack.com and search for 2062590

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Unread 06/29/2013, 07:49 AM   #3472
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Does anyone have a layout of pro's and con's for the 40 vs the 25 and vice versa. From what I've read the big one is obviously the big one eye sore vs the smaller 25. But is there more intigrated into the 25 as far as functionality goes due to its second generation status and such a closeness in price. Obviously I want more power but it seems the smaller 25 is becoming the better way to go.?. I have a 90g with a good 6 PH in it right now mixed between evolutions and sicce and still have a few dead spots despite running an open rock scape. I would be happy to trade these up for a single pump that would work. Just torn between the 40&25. Any info to help make the decision on which to go with greatly appreciated. Thanks
Wp25/wp40 comparison
Price- similar
Noise level- similar

Wp40

Pros
-Wide flow
-High flow

Cons
-Big

Wp25

Pros
-Small
-high flow in relation to size

Cons
-narrow flow

Feel free to add your pros/cons
I will be putting my wp40 back in my 90 gallon. I like the wider flow compared to the wp25s.


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Unread 06/29/2013, 09:05 AM   #3473
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well here is the 2nd inncodent. this was just letting 1 of my wp40's run in regular water for about 24 hours. neither of my wp25's did this. I took the pump apart to see if I could see where it was comming from but I couldn't see anything. I just dumped the water and am now running it again in new clean water to see if it continues to leach.




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Unread 06/29/2013, 09:31 AM   #3474
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That sucks, do you use well water or city water? or is this ro/di water?


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Unread 06/29/2013, 09:35 AM   #3475
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city water, this house is old though if if we leave for a day and come back to turn on the water it will start out a rust color before clearing up after running it a while.

I will try in rodi water to see if there is a diffrence, however my wp25's never changed the color of the water.


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