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Unread 07/16/2010, 08:04 AM   #326
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would it be better to wet skim or dry skim


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Unread 07/16/2010, 09:09 AM   #327
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wettter the better when dosing


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Unread 07/17/2010, 01:34 PM   #328
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Have 1 liter on line in my heavily stocked 125 (estimated water volume with sump 140) fowlr for over 48 hours now. I was dosing a large amount of vodka daily and biodigest weekly before so I expect my pellets to cycle quickly. Weaned off the vodka last week so I am not adding any vodka now. I did, however, seed the pellets with a vile of biodigest, but I do not plan to add any more live bacteria. I have them in a large geo reactor powered by a tunze silence pump. I have quite a bit of flow going throw them now to lightly tumble the liter (definitely way more than 100 gph and more like 350-400 gph). So far things are going great. No bacterial bloom at all, and in fact water has got that clear look you get when you change the carbon or dose vodka. I have not tested my nitrate and phosphate levels b/c it is a useless excercise right now since the algae is giving me false readings (tested low before and know that cannot be correct in light of the algae). Efluent from reactor is being placed in front of my skimmer intake, and skimmer production is so far on par or a bit larger in volume and darker in color as when dosing vodka.



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Unread 07/17/2010, 05:32 PM   #329
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Has anyone noticed that most of the bacterial strings just kind of pass right through the skimmer? I mean, some of them get hung up on the bubble plate, but for the most part they just pass right through to the display.

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Unread 07/17/2010, 07:50 PM   #330
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I'm also a newbie here using pellets also.And as of today my feed back.Grant me this was put online as of Thursday.But here are my results.I run the flow threw and old Zeo reactor.The media is flowing in their like flowing lava.Yes I could crank the flow up a lot more.But I didn't want to strip the water to fast.The skimmer has maintain the same as before as for output.Color and volume been steady.But the water has gotten really clear.I know a lot of folks talk about removing filter bags.My are still in there.Matter of fact I'm running .025 micron bags.With no overflow or plugging up.Yes all this depends on ones system also.But you say why do I run .025 filter bags,being they are very fine knit.Well,when I used to clean the panes,this small microns kick butt,when it came to pull the unwanted out.But again the algae would reappear again.I wanted to pull as much algae and spores out of my system as I could.I know I'm only into this a few days here.But it's doing great.I haven't had any cloudy water like some have potsed here.I still running the GFO threw the system.But wanted this to kick in first,then maybe take it off line as time goes on. I'm not going to do anything right now,and just let it do it's thing.But fish and corals seem to be very happen.Being having clearer water now,just going to watch out for the corals.Because with super clear water,corals could have effect on more light now.But just wanted to join you guys,with this thread so we all can learn,what's best method and success rate.But I'm a happy camper.


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Unread 07/17/2010, 08:47 PM   #331
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well i guess im jumping off the bridge too , i just started my TLF up with pellets , mine dont seam to tumble with the valve full open they float to the top , at half they lie on the bottom , basicly theres no inbetween , they eather float or sink . anyone else using the TLS reactor for them see the same thing ? what is the correct way float or sink


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Unread 07/17/2010, 08:51 PM   #332
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Turn your valve down when they float to the top and turn it up when they lie on the bottom. Take your time with the valve until you get them to tumble. Nothing good comes from rushing.


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Unread 07/17/2010, 08:57 PM   #333
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ok ill try it agian , maybe its too early ? i just started it up 15min ago ?


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Unread 07/17/2010, 08:58 PM   #334
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They will need time to seed.


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Unread 07/17/2010, 08:59 PM   #335
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so in the mean time should they float or sink ?


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Unread 07/17/2010, 09:00 PM   #336
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im not trying to rush it , just trying to set it for now


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Unread 07/17/2010, 09:14 PM   #337
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When I put mine in half were floaters and others on the bottom.And I soaked them for 24 hours in RODI water before they were put in.And even then I had clumps of them with air bulbbles stuck to them floating all over the container.Another 24 hours all are sinkers now.


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Unread 07/17/2010, 09:29 PM   #338
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Reefflections Thanks for the input.


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Unread 07/17/2010, 11:06 PM   #339
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Yep, give them about a day or two and they shouldn't clump much. I found that when I still had floating pellets it was because I had the flow rate too high. Seems better now. I'm using the Warner Marine reactor though.


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Unread 07/17/2010, 11:07 PM   #340
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Turn your valve down when they float to the top and turn it up when they lie on the bottom. Take your time with the valve until you get them to tumble. Nothing good comes from rushing.
I agree. Good advice.


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Unread 07/17/2010, 11:08 PM   #341
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When I put mine in half were floaters and others on the bottom.And I soaked them for 24 hours in RODI water before they were put in.And even then I had clumps of them with air bulbbles stuck to them floating all over the container.Another 24 hours all are sinkers now.
I soaked mine in RO/DI overnight too. Don't know if it helped or not. Certainly can't hurt.


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Unread 07/18/2010, 06:53 AM   #342
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Reefflections Thanks for the input.
No problem here at my end.
I'm just no sure at this time,what to expect next?Because I haven't had any time of outbreak,like others mentioned here.Also my skimmer hasn't give me signs others have had?Green to black liquid either?I really have the same skimmate I had before.I have a Deltec skimmer,and over flow go directly into the skimmer.Again maybe still tank running it's coarse also.I'm thinking some system just run different also.On how high levels are from 1 tank to another for seeing different results.But I don't have the filter bag issue either.But I feel at this time is a good thing.I'm just writing here,what's happening in my tank,when using Eco Bak.I haven't scene any stringing bacteria either yet.But only running a few days.Only time will tell.As we know in this hobby.It's always a waiting game.We never get over night results.


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Unread 07/18/2010, 11:45 AM   #343
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So I wanted to update. I have been running 6-7 weeks now and no GFO. My PO4 is lower that what I used to run. Just a slightest tint of blue which is <.02 with the right numbers. My PO4 was just a bit higher before running GFO. This will be my last update though since I am getting out of the hobby and the pellets are going to another tank. So far I say these work as advertised.



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Unread 07/18/2010, 12:23 PM   #344
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i took the white mesh screen i made out of the bottom and left the top one in . works great now , thanks .


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Unread 07/18/2010, 03:07 PM   #345
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i took the white mesh screen i made out of the bottom and left the top one in . works great now , thanks .
If you took the Mesh out what's holding the pellets inside the container? Don't they just fall through the bottom holes in the cartridge they are in?
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Unread 07/18/2010, 07:27 PM   #346
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i use a TLF reactor between the very bottom and the red plate with holes in ( comes with the TLF reactor ) it is only about maybe 1/2 inch , there might be i few pellets there cant really see . water travels from bottom then goes up and out so u will need the mesh on the top so they dont end up in ur sump .


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Unread 07/18/2010, 07:56 PM   #347
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I would turn down your valve ever so slight. See if that helps. I would give it a week before trying to open the valve to much. The pellets need to seed and get the air out.


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Unread 07/18/2010, 08:40 PM   #348
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Do you need a skimmer with this new filter media.


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Unread 07/18/2010, 08:59 PM   #349
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Do you need a skimmer with this new filter media.
The whole carbon dosing regimen is based on a very efficient skimmer, The bigger the better IMO. I would not try this without at least a decent skimmer as you may do more harm than good.
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Thanks, 0 skimmer and not really alot of Algae so I will not look into this anymore.


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