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Unread 10/16/2014, 10:54 AM   #326
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I think its pretty much inevitable that there will be dead spots due to rockwork structures etc. That doesnt disqualify a pump from being a top tier pump because they all suffer from it unless you add ten pumps but then you are not comparing apples to apples.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 11:03 AM   #327
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I think its pretty much inevitable that there will be dead spots due to rockwork structures etc. That doesnt disqualify a pump from being a top tier pump because they all suffer from it unless you add ten pumps but then you are not comparing apples to apples.
I agree, I expect a dead spot or two in the rock. Maybe it could be avoided by the putting the rock on stilts like I've seen some do.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 06:09 PM   #328
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This thing is loud, disappointed...
How do you know if it's loud when it hasn't even been released yet?


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Unread 10/16/2014, 07:27 PM   #329
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I'm generally for cheaper items. Do I really need that lightening storm mode or would better over all quality for the same price be better. But honestly looking at the specs on this it's really well priced for what your getting. I'm just waiting for the smaller sized and cheaper model to come out. I don't need the $300 to rearrange my live rock for me.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 07:47 PM   #330
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Are you a beta tester? Every video I've seen people say they're very quiet.
Gyre 50w was released in china. Many reefers complain about its noise.

A Chinese reefer said its noise is very big when it first run and unacceptable, but it will be getting better after run-in. The following video was recorded after run-in, using 70% power, you can hear the "rum rum" noise.

watch at 0:45/10:40
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODAzNTc0MTgw.html

Some ppl said its noise like a phone vibrating.
Magnetic holder isn't strong enough.
Flow is very strong as they claim.

Hope they will improve it in next version.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 07:58 PM   #331
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Gyre 50w was released in china. Many reefers complain about its noise.

A Chinese reefer said its noise is very big when it first run and unacceptable, but it will be getting better after run-in. The following video was recorded after run-in, using 70% power, you can hear the "rum rum" noise.

watch at 0:45/10:40
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODAzNTc0MTgw.html

Some ppl said its noise like a phone vibrating.
Magnetic holder isn't strong enough.
Flow is very strong as they claim.

Hope they will improve it in next version.
Wow.

Just wow.

And furthermore wow.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 08:00 PM   #332
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Wow.

Just wow.

And furthermore wow.
I'm guessing he's not a native English speaker. No need to make fun. I'm sure he speaks better English than we do Chinese.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 08:03 PM   #333
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I'd like to see what happens when that tank is filled with rocks.
Why would someone fill their tank with rocks?


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Unread 10/16/2014, 08:04 PM   #334
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I'd like to see what happens when that tank is filled with rocks.
We've seen several videos that show it working on running tanks with rock.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 08:05 PM   #335
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I'm guessing he's not a native English speaker. No need to make fun. I'm sure he speaks better English than we do Chinese.
What on Earth make you think I was making fun of the language of the post?


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Unread 10/16/2014, 08:09 PM   #336
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What on Earth make you think I was making fun of the language of the post?
My mistake, then I honestly have no idea what you were referring to. Haha


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Unread 10/16/2014, 08:32 PM   #337
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My mistake, then I honestly have no idea what you were referring to. Haha
Maybe the fact that you can barely hear it?


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Unread 10/16/2014, 08:56 PM   #338
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Looks like a great pump to me. I would like to have on in the future.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 09:08 PM   #339
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Too many variables to determine if this unit is performing correctly.

What if I listened to a ceiling fan on youtube that was out of balance and said "wow this thing is loud" and then the next day go to a friends house and notice his ceiling fan was silent.

I had a jebao pump that made the same noise. Luckily I bought 2 and was able to compare. The other unit was dead silent. Determined that the impeller was out of balance on the first unit. Called the company I bought the pump from and they sent me a new impeller. Replaced the impeller and the problem was solved.

Who knows if this guy has his cages installed correctly... Damaged his unit putting it together..... I mean come on. Judging a pump through youKU? especially trying to gauge magnetism through a video....

I don't know if this guys is a "troll" , but where I come from we have a saying... "Haters gonna Hate" lol

Edit: Also DC pumps are sensitive to voltage. For example a DC pump designed to run on 220 and then converted to 110 may have some issues in the long run and vise versa... A pump company (who I will not name) already ran across this issue in the US.



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Unread 10/16/2014, 09:58 PM   #340
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Gyre 50w was released in china. Many reefers complain about its noise.

A Chinese reefer said its noise is very big when it first run and unacceptable, but it will be getting better after run-in. The following video was recorded after run-in, using 70% power, you can hear the "rum rum" noise.

watch at 0:45/10:40
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODAzNTc0MTgw.html

Some ppl said its noise like a phone vibrating.
Magnetic holder isn't strong enough.
Flow is very strong as they claim.

Hope they will improve it in next version.
Tough to gauge over video, where microphones can make something seem worse than it actually is. Nonetheless, I will take your words into consideration. I assume the man recording the video discussed the noise? It didn't really seem that bad to me, but I will continue to listen to peoples impressions. I wonder how long the break-in period is? Your post has been helpful, thanks.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 10:43 PM   #341
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Gyre 50w was released in china. Many reefers complain about its noise.

A Chinese reefer said its noise is very big when it first run and unacceptable, but it will be getting better after run-in. The following video was recorded after run-in, using 70% power, you can hear the "rum rum" noise.

watch at 0:45/10:40
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODAzNTc0MTgw.html

Some ppl said its noise like a phone vibrating.
Magnetic holder isn't strong enough.
Flow is very strong as they claim.

Hope they will improve it in next version.
I don't know where that sound is coming from but I can attest to this. I've stood literally inches away from this thing and couldn't hear it at all. Messed with the controller and took it up on a 5 foot long tank to where it was making vortexes on the other side and still didn't hear anything.

After messing with this thing at my local shop I had them pre-order me one immediately. And the one they have is just a prototype.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 11:08 PM   #342
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Just give u guy an impression - This thing don't slient as tunze or even jebao. That comment not just come from one video/reefer. There are many reefers complain about this.

Maybe USA version will be better, since this is the first batch released in china.


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Unread 10/16/2014, 11:11 PM   #343
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Just give u guy an impression - This thing don't slient as tunze or even jebao. That comment not just come from one video/reefer. There are many reefers complain about this.

Maybe USA version will be better, since this is the first batch released in china.
Then that is no good for you guys... I hope they warranty the flaw if it is just localized to the Chinese version. I hope this translates well.


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Unread 10/17/2014, 01:58 AM   #344
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I listened to the one on display at MACNA and it was pretty darn quiet, had to get my ear very close to the unit to hear it at all, tho they were still prototypes not the retail versions.


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Unread 10/17/2014, 03:40 AM   #345
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I have been wanting this pump from the get go!

Unfortunately it is prices at around 500$ in Denmark!

Have to wait for the XF130 and see what it's price is going to be


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Unread 10/17/2014, 04:18 AM   #346
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There are three production units in the US and all three are dead silent. I had to put my ear up to the aquarium to see if I could hear any noise. This was right out of the box too, wasn't even broken in yet.


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Unread 10/17/2014, 05:59 AM   #347
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I still want this. But I still think connecting to a controller would put this over the top. I know it comes with its own, but when I hit feed mode on my apex there is a whole program that goes into effect. Thats the one plus about vortechs.

Feed A
Main pump off
Vortechs down to 10% for 5 minutes
After 5 minutes
main pump kicks on
Vortech in nutrient export mode for an hour
After the hour
Vortech back into tidal swell

Not to mention you can program them for multiple changes during the day or night.

I like this thing a bunch and will try it out, but connectivity is the big thing now.


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Unread 10/17/2014, 07:27 AM   #348
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I still want this. But I still think connecting to a controller would put this over the top. I know it comes with its own, but when I hit feed mode on my apex there is a whole program that goes into effect. Thats the one plus about vortechs.

Feed A
Main pump off
Vortechs down to 10% for 5 minutes
After 5 minutes
main pump kicks on
Vortech in nutrient export mode for an hour
After the hour
Vortech back into tidal swell

Not to mention you can program them for multiple changes during the day or night.

I like this thing a bunch and will try it out, but connectivity is the big thing now.
Why not just hook it up to a programmable outlet and have it go off for 5 minutes when you hit your apex feed button?


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Unread 10/17/2014, 09:02 AM   #349
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There are three production units in the US and all three are dead silent. I had to put my ear up to the aquarium to see if I could hear any noise. This was right out of the box too, wasn't even broken in yet.
Is there any info yet on the smallest one? Pricing, controller, flow rates? I'm thinking the $300 in a 20g tank will probably rearrange everything in the tank even on lower settings after watching the videos.


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Unread 10/17/2014, 09:16 AM   #350
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Why not just hook it up to a programmable outlet and have it go off for 5 minutes when you hit your apex feed button?
If his programing was a simple on & off programing then that would work. But if you read his post he talks about the vortechs coming back on in a different mode(nutrient export) for one hour and then switching over to another mode. That isn't possible without it being programmable.


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