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Unread 08/22/2012, 01:40 PM   #3526
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Hi, Steve,

A little off-topic, and I'm sure you answered this earlier, but do firefish need to be added first due to a need to stake out safe territory?

I have a fairly lightly stocked 55 gallon DT with a 30 gallon sump that has been a long-existing Fish-only. For the last several months, I have been working to convert it to a reef, and it now is supporting water params very well. Currently it has in it:

3 Ocellarius clowns (I know you always say they will become two)
1 pigmy Angel (has been a non-issue with eating my few softies/zoas)
1 Bicolor blenny

Inverts
1 fighting conch
2 turbo snails
5 Nassirus snails
2 peppermint shrimp
4 small scarlet hermits (thrown in by LFS with snails before I read your warnings on hermits)

I really like firefish, and would like to add a pair, but you always say to add them first. Could I, after quarantine, do anything to successfully add a pair?

thanks,

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Thanks. How many anthias would you recommend for a 135 gallon (6ft long)? Also, is it easy to determine the gender of the resplendent or carberryi? One of the things I liked about the lyretail is the stark difference in gender.

Sorry about the typos. I meant anthias not wrasse and did not mean cranberry either.
that is beyond the scope of this thread. Lots of information can be obtained in the Reef Fish forum.


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Thanks. I have a 10 gallon I plan on setting up as a quarantine tank. I also have a 29 gallon, but I feel thats a little big for a quarantine tank. One more question about my fish choice. Can the blue/green chromis do okay by itself in a comunity tank, or would I be better of getting a couple of them? Online it just says they do good in a school, but doesn't say if it's okay to have just one. Thank you for all the help you've given me so far!
stocking more than one chromis is likely to end up with just one or at most two


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I had a 12g nano and just moved up to a 90g with 30g sump w/live rock and protein skimmer. I moved 2 Ocellaris clowns,a neon goby, a coral banded shrimp, and a pistol shrimp into this tank along with the cleaner crew of snails, crabs, and hermits. I have a mixture of LEDs and T5s and plan on doing sps, lps and soft corals. Please let me know if this list of fish will work in the tank:

Coral beauty
Royal gamma
Randal orange striped prawn goby
Lawnmower blennie
Six line wrasse very aggressive
Longnose Hawkfish precludes shrimp
Leopard wrasse x2 (male and a female) get some experience first before trying leopard wrasses and better tried in a mature tank
Firefish x 2 must be a male plus female

Later on when the tank is more established I would like to add a banded pipefish and a green mandarin.
That would be too many copepod eaters in only a moderately sized tank


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Hi, Steve,

A little off-topic, and I'm sure you answered this earlier, but do firefish need to be added first due to a need to stake out safe territory?

depends on their tank mates. In your case, adding a true M + F pair should be fine.

I have a fairly lightly stocked 55 gallon DT with a 30 gallon sump that has been a long-existing Fish-only. For the last several months, I have been working to convert it to a reef, and it now is supporting water params very well. Currently it has in it:

3 Ocellarius clowns (I know you always say they will become two)
1 pigmy Angel (has been a non-issue with eating my few softies/zoas)
1 Bicolor blenny

Inverts
1 fighting conch
2 turbo snails
5 Nassirus snails
2 peppermint shrimp
4 small scarlet hermits (thrown in by LFS with snails before I read your warnings on hermits)

I really like firefish, and would like to add a pair, but you always say to add them first. Could I, after quarantine, do anything to successfully add a pair?

thanks,

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Unread 08/22/2012, 03:11 PM   #3531
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Starting a 65 Gallon (36x18x24) with a 20 gallon sump, mixed reef and a DSB. Was considering the following fish, may be too many. Also, what inverts would you recommend?

Maroon Clownfish
Bicolor Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
Orchid Dottyback
Four Line Wrasse (Last Fish)
Blue Spot Jawfish
Green Mandarin (Mature Tank)



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Unread 08/22/2012, 04:20 PM   #3532
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I have a 100g reef tank. On my wish list is:Yashia shrimp goby,gold spotted rabittfish and a mimic lemonpeel tang.


In my tank now:

Ocellaris clownfish (one)
Blue green chromis (one)
Randall's goby (pair)
Bluejaw triggerfish (male)
Dispar Anthias (one)
Tailspot Benny
Banggai cardinal

Thanks for your advice


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Starting a 65 Gallon (36x18x24) with a 20 gallon sump, mixed reef and a DSB. Was considering the following fish, may be too many. Also, what inverts would you recommend?

Maroon Clownfish very aggressive
Bicolor Blenny
Royal Gramma Basslet
Orchid Dottyback semi-aggressive
Four Line Wrasse (Last Fish) very aggressive
Blue Spot Jawfish needs lower temperatures for success
Green Mandarin (Mature Tank) any lined wrasse will not allow this fish to exist




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I have a 100g reef tank. On my wish list is:Yashia shrimp goby,gold spotted rabittfish and a mimic lemonpeel tang.

all the additions are fine

In my tank now:

Ocellaris clownfish (one)
Blue green chromis (one)
Randall's goby (pair)
Bluejaw triggerfish (male) I am skeptical about the success of this fish
Dispar Anthias (one)
Tailspot Benny
Banggai cardinal

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Unread 08/22/2012, 08:56 PM   #3535
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Hey, Steve...I just learned of this thread, so I figured I'd get your opinion on my proposed setup.

I've got a standard 75-gal DT (48L x 18D x 21H) and a 30-gal long sump (36L x 12D x 17H) /w fuge.

My original intention was for this to be a FOWLR, but I've got to be honest with myself and concede this will very likely become a softies tank (Xenia and GSP only and let them run a muck). I've got both of these in my 45-gal reef.

My preferred stocking list is a follows:

• 1x Humu Picasso Triggerfish (Rhinecanthus aculeatus)

• 1x Coral Beauty Angelfish (Centropyge bispinosa)

Note: These two are firm on the list

• 1x Saddleback Butterflyfish (Chaetodon ephippium)

or

• 1x Dot Dash Butterflyfish (Chaetodon punctatofasciatus)

Note: prefer the Saddleback, but concerned, regarding size, about having it and the trigger in this size tank

• 1x Saddle Valentini Puffer (Canthigaster valentini)

or

• 1x Papuan Toby Puffer (Canthigaster papua)

• 1x Highfin Red-Banded Goby (Stonogobiops nematodes)

Then for something small, I'd like to get some Chromis of some sort, and I like the looks of the Black Bar Chromis ((Chromis retrofasciata). I'd get at least 4 of them.

Appreciate you having a look at this, and look forward to hearing your recommendations.

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Unread 08/22/2012, 11:09 PM   #3536
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I have a 100g reef tank. On my wish list is:Yashia shrimp goby,gold spotted rabittfish and a mimic lemonpeel tang.


In my tank now:

Ocellaris clownfish (one)
Blue green chromis (one)
Randall's goby (pair)
Bluejaw triggerfish (male)
Dispar Anthias (one)
Tailspot Benny
Banggai cardinal

Thanks for your advice
How does your blue/green chromis do by itself? I want to get one for my 50 gallon and was wondering if they do ok by themselves because they say they are a schooling fish.


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Hey, Steve...I just learned of this thread, so I figured I'd get your opinion on my proposed setup.

I've got a standard 75-gal DT (48L x 18D x 21H) and a 30-gal long sump (36L x 12D x 17H) /w fuge.

My original intention was for this to be a FOWLR, but I've got to be honest with myself and concede this will very likely become a softies tank (Xenia and GSP only and let them run a muck). I've got both of these in my 45-gal reef.

My preferred stocking list is a follows:

• 1x Humu Picasso Triggerfish (Rhinecanthus aculeatus)

• 1x Coral Beauty Angelfish (Centropyge bispinosa)

Note: These two are firm on the list

• 1x Saddleback Butterflyfish (Chaetodon ephippium)

or

• 1x Dot Dash Butterflyfish (Chaetodon punctatofasciatus)

Note: prefer the Saddleback, but concerned, regarding size, about having it and the trigger in this size tank

• 1x Saddle Valentini Puffer (Canthigaster valentini)

or

• 1x Papuan Toby Puffer (Canthigaster papua)

• 1x Highfin Red-Banded Goby (Stonogobiops nematodes)

Then for something small, I'd like to get some Chromis of some sort, and I like the looks of the Black Bar Chromis ((Chromis retrofasciata). I'd get at least 4 of them.

Appreciate you having a look at this, and look forward to hearing your recommendations.

JB
As the trigger is firm on the list, this qualifies as an aggressive fish tank and I do not provide commentary on aggressive fish tanks. Best answers can be found here.


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How does your blue/green chromis do by itself? I want to get one for my 50 gallon and was wondering if they do ok by themselves because they say they are a schooling fish.
this is not a discussion thread. Please post questions in a different thread.


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Unread 08/23/2012, 06:55 AM   #3539
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46 gallon bowfront, mixed reef (corals in for 1-3 weeks), 3 months old.
AquaC Remora skimmer, HOB filter, Rena Filstar XP2 canister filter

In tank:
3x green chromis - in for 2 months
1x cleaner shrimp - just went in
snails

Would like to add (one each):
Midas blenny
Six line wrasse - aggressive to all fish? or okay with this list
Ocellaris clown - will not add until corals are larger - one year?

If bioload allows, add one or two from this list:
Clown goby
firefish
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46 gallon bowfront, mixed reef (corals in for 1-3 weeks), 3 months old.
AquaC Remora skimmer, HOB filter, Rena Filstar XP2 canister filter

In tank:
3x green chromis - in for 2 months will become one eventually
1x cleaner shrimp - just went in
snails

Would like to add (one each):
Midas blenny
Six line wrasse - aggressive to all fish? or okay with this list aggressive, will limit other options
Ocellaris clown - will not add until corals are larger - one year?

the only issue with corals is that they may be associated with the clown to their detriment

If bioload allows, add one or two from this list:
Clown goby
firefish no lined wrasse, introduce early
banggai cardinal
bioload is fine, with no lined wrasse, all can work except as noted above


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bioload is fine, with no lined wrasse, all can work except as noted above
Thank you for your reply.

Would a Carpenter or McClosker Flasher work as a substitute for the six line?

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Hi there,

In the process of upgrading my 60 gallon FOWLR to a 90 gallon reef tank with a 30 gallon sump/fuge. Working on getting my fish list put together and had some questions (of course)
=)

I currently have:
1 x Salarias ramosus
1 x Gobiodon strangulatus
1 x Gobiodon atrangulatus
1 x Gobiodon citrinus
1 x Valenciennea strigata
2 x Nemateleotris magnifica
And a bonded pair of Amphiprion ocellaris

I would like to add:
1 x Centropyge loriculus

And it was suggested to me to add:
1 x Zebrasoma flavescens
-or-
1 x Zebrasoma xanthurum
-and-
Ctenochaetus flavicauda

I originally planned on adding the Zebrasoma flavescens in addition to 3-5 Pseudanthias squamipinnis (this was also by suggestion), but I am wary of adding the anthias because they get so big. I want something my fish can grow into instead of grow out of.

***I do plan on adding a m/f pair of Synchiropus splendidus once my pod population has been established (waiting about a year).

If I could do the list of fish I have, in addition to the flame angel, the yellow tang, the bristletooth tang, and a single six line wrasse (all added last), that would be ideal, but it's understood if that is one to many tangs in the tank. But, I think I'd rather skip the anthias all together. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry for such a long post!

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Thank you for your reply.

Would a Carpenter or McClosker Flasher work as a substitute for the six line?

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Hi there,

In the process of upgrading my 60 gallon FOWLR to a 90 gallon reef tank with a 30 gallon sump/fuge. Working on getting my fish list put together and had some questions (of course)
=)

I currently have:
1 x Salarias ramosus
1 x Gobiodon strangulatus
1 x Gobiodon atrangulatus
1 x Gobiodon citrinus
1 x Valenciennea strigata
2 x Nemateleotris magnifica only if a male + female pair
And a bonded pair of Amphiprion ocellaris

I would like to add:
1 x Centropyge loriculus

And it was suggested to me to add:
1 x Zebrasoma flavescens
-or-
1 x Zebrasoma xanthurum
-and-
Ctenochaetus flavicauda this is the only tang I would consider

I originally planned on adding the Zebrasoma flavescens in addition to 3-5 Pseudanthias squamipinnis (this was also by suggestion), but I am wary of adding the anthias because they get so big. I want something my fish can grow into instead of grow out of.

carberryi or resplendent anthias would work and stay reasonably sized.

***I do plan on adding a m/f pair of Synchiropus splendidus once my pod population has been established (waiting about a year).

If I could do the list of fish I have, in addition to the flame angel, the yellow tang, the bristletooth tang, and a single six line wrasse (all added last), that would be ideal, but it's understood if that is one to many tangs in the tank. But, I think I'd rather skip the anthias all together. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Sorry for such a long post!

Thank you!



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Revising my fish list for my 75G with coral tank.

I currently have
purple firefish
red head goby
bicolor blenny
couple cleaner shrimp
peppermint shrimp
sea star

Would like to add
Foxface Lo
Pacific Redstripe Hogfish
Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse

Would these additions be compatible with my current fish?


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New thoughts...65 Gallon (36x18x24) with a 20 gallon sump, mixed reef and a DSB. Was considering the following fish. Could I add more or just about right for bioload? What order should they be added as well? Thanks for the help!

2 Ocellaris Clownfish
Firefish, Helfrichi*
Blue Spot Jawfish (lower temp)
Green Mandarin (Mature Tank)

Could I fit?
Spotted Cardinalfish
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Okay I have a 29 gallon setup for about a year now with lots of rock and sand. In another year I would like to upgrade to a 50 or 75 gallon. Right now I have 3 fish all about an inch long:

sixline wrasse
ocellaris clown
bluegreen chromis
plus 7 nassarius snails and a peppermint shrimp

I feed the fish heavy and they all get along. I hope the sixline doesn't get territorial.

I would like to add soon:

captive bred kaudern's cardinal ~1"
royal gramma ~1"


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Revising my fish list for my 75G with coral tank.

I currently have
purple firefish
red head goby
bicolor blenny
couple cleaner shrimp
peppermint shrimp
sea star

Would like to add
Foxface Lo either this fish or the kole tang but not both
Pacific Redstripe Hogfish will eat shrimp and possibly small fish
Kole Yellow Eye Tang
Tanaka's Pygmy Wrasse

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New thoughts...65 Gallon (36x18x24) with a 20 gallon sump, mixed reef and a DSB. Was considering the following fish. Could I add more or just about right for bioload? What order should they be added as well? Thanks for the help!

2 Ocellaris Clownfish
Firefish, Helfrichi* need tank cover (not egg crate)
Blue Spot Jawfish (lower temp)
Green Mandarin (Mature Tank)

Could I fit? yes
Spotted Cardinalfish
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Okay I have a 29 gallon setup for about a year now with lots of rock and sand. In another year I would like to upgrade to a 50 or 75 gallon. Right now I have 3 fish all about an inch long:

sixline wrasse
ocellaris clown
bluegreen chromis
plus 7 nassarius snails and a peppermint shrimp

I feed the fish heavy and they all get along. I hope the sixline doesn't get territorial. it probably will

I would like to add soon: fine

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