anyone tried to using Jebo WP40? - Page 152

shlap · 08/20/2013, 05:03 PM

Just put my new WP-40 on a 150 gal (60x24x24) tank and wow... once dialed in, it can make such a big wave that I'm afraid to walk away from it, lol!

SimonSKL · 08/20/2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by shlap

Just put my new WP-40 on a 150 gal (60x24x24) tank and wow... once dialed in, it can make such a big wave that I'm afraid to walk away from it, lol!

That doesn't look like a Jabao WP40. It looks like a Vortech MP40!

SimonSKL · 08/20/2013, 05:27 PM

Sorry I missed the WP40 on the left side.

Dactylopterus · 08/21/2013, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ycg675

Here is the pic. The old controller is there for scale, it is not being used. Total project cost about $60

Why worry assembling this when you can use the tunze conector for less money and a lot smaller than this?

xsdbs · 08/22/2013, 10:29 AM

That's quite impressive. I have been looking thru this thread a bit but honestly I think that I get a touch of ADD and start jumping around a bit. On fishstreet, they're showing the WP40 and a 12 mode controller but I see where people are putting dimmers on it also. Is this because they have the older style controller?
I have the same size tank as yours but only with 1 overflow. In the video, are you only using the WP40?
Also why do some people use a 24 volt power supply? (I may not have been patient enough in my reading to find this out)
Thanks in advance for any advice or help anyone can offer.

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Originally Posted by shlap

Just put my new WP-40 on a 150 gal (60x24x24) tank and wow... once dialed in, it can make such a big wave that I'm afraid to walk away from it, lol!

shlap · 08/22/2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xsdbs

That's quite impressive. I have been looking thru this thread a bit but honestly I think that I get a touch of ADD and start jumping around a bit. On fishstreet, they're showing the WP40 and a 12 mode controller but I see where people are putting dimmers on it also. Is this because they have the older style controller?
I have the same size tank as yours but only with 1 overflow. In the video, are you only using the WP40?
Also why do some people use a 24 volt power supply? (I may not have been patient enough in my reading to find this out)
Thanks in advance for any advice or help anyone can offer.

Yes, the WP-40 was the only thing running during this video.
The original WP-40 only had one speed, TURBO! The new one allows you to select 3 different speeds. People using dimmers are using them for more control of the speed, and to use with their controllers (btw if anyone has one hooked up to a RKL, please let me know!)

Sacohen · 08/22/2013, 11:13 AM

XSDBS;

People are using 24V power supplies, because that's the the 40 and 25 use.
Some are getting variable voltage power supplies to reduce the speed.
Running it at 100% on 12v is like running it at 50% on 24v.

You can reduce the voltage to the controller either with a dimmer or a variable voltage power supply.

shlap;

The three speeds S1, S2 & S3 only work on the W1 mode.
Also I have not seen anyone successfully controlling it with an RKL, beside just on and off.

shlap · 08/22/2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

XSDBS;
The three speeds S1, S2 & S3 only work on the W1 mode.

Oh thanks Sacohen, good to know... On the 150gal, I'm always on S1 so never noticed

I really want to control the speed at night with my RKL though.. hope someone gets this working!

Yariel0527 · 08/22/2013, 12:37 PM

Just got mine I ordered 4 for my tank just put them all together I'm totally amazed with the performance of this pumps them 4 replace one MP-40 and Two tunze 6105..
Very happy with the customer service and the communication plus I got my pumps in three days from china that's a hell of a shipping I can't even get that here with national stores Love them.....

eddiem · 08/22/2013, 01:01 PM

..answered my own question :S

xsdbs · 08/23/2013, 06:26 AM

thank you and shlap for your help. Here's a slightly dumb question, what's RKL?
Would a single WP 40 be good for my 60x24x24 tank or would I be better off using 2 WP25's with one at opposite ends of the tank? Thanks again

** on a different note, I'm taking it that this is the newest technology instead of using closed loops, is this correct? I've been out of the hobby for a few years but I'm back into it. Had a big loss a couple years ago when I came home from vacation to find a dead tank because electricity was off for a couple days.

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Originally Posted by shlap

Oh thanks Sacohen, good to know... On the 150gal, I'm always on S1 so never noticed

I really want to control the speed at night with my RKL though.. hope someone gets this working!

Fitz19d · 08/23/2013, 06:42 AM

RKL = Reef Keeper Light.

There were some other expert guys on here, but basically from my reading as a 1yr noob. Seems like a ton of effort and complications and difficult to get just right. With such nice power heads seems silly to me to use anything but.

Price is so similiar, newer wp40's with speed control x2 might be best. (Certainly won't lack, and can turn it down to 50% if need be.) I havn't used my wp25 yet so I've heard conflicting on it's power. (Much more focused I guees? Opposing with one blasting behind rockwork might work.)

Ron Reefman · 08/23/2013, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by xsdbs

thank you and shlap for your help. Here's a slightly dumb question, what's RKL?
Would a single WP 40 be good for my 60x24x24 tank or would I be better off using 2 WP25's with one at opposite ends of the tank? Thanks again

** on a different note, I'm taking it that this is the newest technology instead of using closed loops, is this correct? I've been out of the hobby for a few years but I'm back into it. Had a big loss a couple years ago when I came home from vacation to find a dead tank because electricity was off for a couple days.

RKL is Reef Keeper Lite which is a computer reef controller.

I went with 2 WP25's on my 180g mixed reef. I had a WP40 and switched when the WP25's came out. And I put them on timers so they run 8 hours each with a 2 hour overlap, so I have typical, average 6 hour tidal flows. The coral get current from both ends (better for them... slightly) and I just think it's cool to have lights doing sunrise and sunsets with pumps doing tidal flows.

I wouldn't say 'instead of using closed loops" but as an alternative to a CL, or as in my case, in addition to a CL.

chercm · 08/23/2013, 07:24 AM

i really wonder if Jebo will come out a controller to control the wave makers wirelessly

Sacohen · 08/23/2013, 07:37 AM

I wouldn't count on that.

SimonSKL · 08/23/2013, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chercm

i really wonder if Jebo will come out a controller to control the wave makers wirelessly

Not for the price we paid for the pump. Wireless communication adds a new level of technology along with additional cost. If Jebao wants to become Tunze or Ecotech, they should continue to improve their products with new features and functionalities. If they just want to be mass producer of low cost products, we won't see further refinement.

jbaeza83 · 08/23/2013, 08:10 AM

You guys know they are releasing an wp60 right?

Sacohen · 08/23/2013, 08:48 AM

Yes.

This is what I posted in the WP60 thread...

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

I just got an e-mail from Wynstan at Jebao on the WP-60.
He said ...

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The WP-60 will be release by the end of this month,
flow rate is about 20000L/H;

I won't hold my breath on the end of the month, we've heard that before.
As far as the flow of 20000L/H that's about 5283.44 US gallons. That's a bunch of water.

Again, the flow on the 25 was not what they said it would be when it was finally released.

There is talk about a WP-10 also, but I haven't been able to get any information on that pump from them.

jbaeza83 · 08/23/2013, 10:04 AM

Yeah I got the same info along with some pictures and a video of it making some huge waves in a 180g.

chercm · 08/23/2013, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SimonSKL

Not for the price we paid for the pump. Wireless communication adds a new level of technology along with additional cost. If Jebao wants to become Tunze or Ecotech, they should continue to improve their products with new features and functionalities. If they just want to be mass producer of low cost products, we won't see further refinement.

understood. there is a 3rd party controller which can be controlled wirelessly for the wp60/25 :

http://www.sgreefclub.com/forum/topi.../#entry1125643

shifty51008 · 08/24/2013, 07:25 AM

if i'm reading that correctly, you still need 1 controller for each pump, and then you can set them up to sync with each other wirelessly like the vortech's? if thats the case I will just buy the reef angel controller.

007Bond · 08/24/2013, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sacohen

Yes.

This is what I posted in the WP60 thread...

There is talk about a WP-10 also, but I haven't been able to get any information on that pump from them.

Hi,...Can you put up the WP60 thread link. Thanks---Rick

shifty51008 · 08/24/2013, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 007Bond

Hi,...Can you put up the WP60 thread link. Thanks---Rick

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2316653

007Bond · 08/24/2013, 04:50 PM

Thanks, ...Found it.

ycg675 · 08/26/2013, 08:12 AM

The backup power, the apex connection to two pumps rather than a Tunze connector for each, The fuse

08/20/2013, 05:27 PM	#3778
SimonSKL Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Danville, IL Posts: 1,918	Sorry I missed the WP40 on the left side. __________________ Simon Mixed LPS and SPS corals Camera - Canon T2i with EF100mm 2.8f USM macro lens Current Tank Info: AG 92g corner tank and Marineland 125g, RKE controllers, Maxspect and Eshine LEDs, MP40WES, Jebo WP40 & WP25

08/22/2013, 11:13 AM	#3782
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	XSDBS; People are using 24V power supplies, because that's the the 40 and 25 use. Some are getting variable voltage power supplies to reduce the speed. Running it at 100% on 12v is like running it at 50% on 24v. You can reduce the voltage to the controller either with a dimmer or a variable voltage power supply. shlap; The three speeds S1, S2 & S3 only work on the W1 mode. Also I have not seen anyone successfully controlling it with an RKL, beside just on and off. __________________ Steve Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Mixed Reef

08/22/2013, 01:01 PM	#3785
eddiem Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Goffstown, NH Posts: 929	..answered my own question :S Last edited by eddiem; 08/22/2013 at 01:43 PM.

08/23/2013, 07:37 AM	#3790
Sacohen Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Davie, FL Posts: 1,778	I wouldn't count on that. __________________ Steve Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Mixed Reef

08/23/2013, 10:04 AM	#3794
jbaeza83 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 147	Yeah I got the same info along with some pictures and a video of it making some huge waves in a 180g. Last edited by jbaeza83; 08/23/2013 at 10:11 AM.

08/20/2013, 05:03 PM	#3776
shlap Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 233	Just put my new WP-40 on a 150 gal (60x24x24) tank and wow... once dialed in, it can make such a big wave that I'm afraid to walk away from it, lol!

08/22/2013, 12:37 PM	#3784
Yariel0527 Registered Member. Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 111	Just got mine I ordered 4 for my tank just put them all together I'm totally amazed with the performance of this pumps them 4 replace one MP-40 and Two tunze 6105.. Very happy with the customer service and the communication plus I got my pumps in three days from china that's a hell of a shipping I can't even get that here with national stores Love them.....

08/23/2013, 06:42 AM	#3787
Fitz19d Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Frederick Colorado Posts: 475	RKL = Reef Keeper Light. There were some other expert guys on here, but basically from my reading as a 1yr noob. Seems like a ton of effort and complications and difficult to get just right. With such nice power heads seems silly to me to use anything but. Price is so similiar, newer wp40's with speed control x2 might be best. (Certainly won't lack, and can turn it down to 50% if need be.) I havn't used my wp25 yet so I've heard conflicting on it's power. (Much more focused I guees? Opposing with one blasting behind rockwork might work.)

08/23/2013, 07:24 AM	#3789
chercm Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 2,971	i really wonder if Jebo will come out a controller to control the wave makers wirelessly

08/23/2013, 08:10 AM	#3792
jbaeza83 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Corona, CA Posts: 147	You guys know they are releasing an wp60 right?

08/24/2013, 07:25 AM	#3796
shifty51008 12-5 Chiefs record Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: NW Iowa Posts: 10,134	if i'm reading that correctly, you still need 1 controller for each pump, and then you can set them up to sync with each other wirelessly like the vortech's? if thats the case I will just buy the reef angel controller. __________________ 75 gal. mixed DT, 100 gal. sump, 50 gal. fuge, Clownfish breeder

08/24/2013, 04:50 PM	#3799
007Bond Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Sylvania,Ohio Posts: 1,925	Thanks, ...Found it.

08/26/2013, 08:12 AM	#3800
ycg675 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 20	The backup power, the apex connection to two pumps rather than a Tunze connector for each, The fuse