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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by coralman123

the fish i am planning on are a banana wrasses, pink face wrasses,
blue head wrasses, hardwicke wrasses, and a gold bar wrasses
a long with a trigger it would be ether niger or a blue throat i am not set
on these fish if you have any idea i would like the advice you are willing to give
thanks

As I indicated earlier, I do not provide commentary on aggressive fish tanks. Best to post those questions where I indicated previously.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by darkart82

75 gallon reef tank with a 15 gallon refuge with cheato.

My current in my tank as of now list.

1 A. Percula
2 1.1 pair Centropyge loriculus
3 Chromis viridis these will likely winnow down to one or two long run
1 Siganus unimaculatus
1 Gramma loreto
2 Nemateleotris magnifica

I want to add another clown and dragonet or should I call it a day because im pushing the envolope of being overstocked ?

adding another clown can be done if and only if it is significantly smaller. If your tank is mature (7 months minimum) a dragonet should be fine

[darkart82]

Originally Posted by snorvich

adding another clown can be done if and only if it is significantly smaller. If your tank is mature (7 months minimum) a dragonet should be fine

how many small gobies could I add to this system? I mean with the two above included? 1, 2. or 10 ? lol

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by darkart82

how many small gobies could I add to this system? I mean with the two above included? 1, 2. or 10 ? lol

I never give numbers like that. Gobies do not necessarily like each other unless they are mated. Same ecological niche. Generally more than one of any fish is a special circumstance.

[darkart82]

Originally Posted by snorvich

I never give numbers like that. Gobies do not necessarily like each other unless they are mated. Same ecological niche. Generally more than one of any fish is a special circumstance.

I want to get a few sandsifters and some shrimp, I want fire shrimp and cleaner shrimp and a shrimp to pair with a goby.

[justinf67]

Been here a few times, but gonna throw out my list as I think I have it finalized.

75G Current Stock:
Coral Beauty
2 Black and white ocellaris
2 engineer gobies (If they cause issues in the tank, they will be rehomed)
Yellow watchman Goby
(Had a Flame Hawk, he is now in my sump till I can bring him to LFS, as he attacked the new clowns and my YWG. Can't handle his aggression)

Future additions, listed in order of addition.
Midas Blenny
Trio/Harem of appropriate Fairy/Flasher Wrasses (Not sure which yet and I wont ask for suggestions)
Kole Tang....
This will complete the stocking in my 75g.

I just started a new 40g breeder. Once its done cycling, my list for it isnot all at once obviously)

1st, Firefish.
2nd, Hifin goby yasha possibly with pistol shrimp, not sure yet
3rd, pair of orange ocellaris
4th, Royal Gramma,
5th/last fish, Flame Angel

How does the stock list look for each tank? Thanks again for your assistance

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by darkart82

I want to get a few sandsifters and some shrimp, I want fire shrimp and cleaner shrimp and a shrimp to pair with a goby.

Sand sifters are probably not going to be what you want, or at least not more than one. Fighting conchs are better for keeping the sand clean. Fireshrimp and cleaner shrimp are fine. One pistol shrimp (or a pair) to place with a symbiotic goby is fine.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by justinf67

Been here a few times, but gonna throw out my list as I think I have it finalized.

75G Current Stock:
Coral Beauty
2 Black and white ocellaris
2 engineer gobies (If they cause issues in the tank, they will be rehomed)
Yellow watchman Goby
(Had a Flame Hawk, he is now in my sump till I can bring him to LFS, as he attacked the new clowns and my YWG. Can't handle his aggression)

Future additions, listed in order of addition.
Midas Blenny
Trio/Harem of appropriate Fairy/Flasher Wrasses (Not sure which yet and I wont ask for suggestions)
Kole Tang....
This will complete the stocking in my 75g.

this should be fine. I am surprised about the flame hawk, that is unusual for this fish

I just started a new 40g breeder. Once its done cycling, my list for it isnot all at once obviously)

1st, Firefish.
2nd, Hifin goby yasha possibly with pistol shrimp, not sure yet
3rd, pair of orange ocellaris
4th, Royal Gramma,
5th/last fish, Flame Angel

that also sounds fine, ideally in that order

How does the stock list look for each tank? Thanks again for your assistance

[scubawarm]

First off: Thanks for your efforts snorvich!

120 gallon mixed reef. 48x24x24 with LOTS of long tunnels and caves in the rockwork.
With maybe a little too much cleaning crew.

CURRENTLY HAVE
Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clown Fish) - PAIR very small/young
Forcipiger Flavissimus (Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish) Doesn’t touch corals hunts for PODS all day long
Gramma loreto (Royal Gramma Basslet)


WANT TO ADD
Chromis viridis (Green Chromis Fish) 3ea could be easily talked out of.
Ecsenius stigmatura (Tail spot Blenny Fish)
Cryptocentrus cinctus (Yellow Watchman Goby Fish)
Paracheilinus mccoskeri (McCoskeri Fairy Wrasse Fish) Male – Pair if I can find a female too
Cirrhilabrus scottorum (Scott's Fairy Wrasse) PAIR
Ctenochaetus flavicauda (White Tail Bristletooth Tang)
Heniochus diphreutes (Schooling Bannerfish) If you think there is room

[willienelson]

36G elos midi with LPS and SPS

I've got no fish in the tank now, but I have a mostly snail clean up crew with 2 halloween hermits, 2 peppermint shrimp and a fancy brittle sea star

would like to add over several months

next month
1x Picasso clown (Amphiprion percula)
1x Yellow Clown Goby (Gobiodon okinawae)

a few months later
1x Candy basslet (Liopropoma carmabi)

finally
1x Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani) would add this last
do I need to be worried for the peppermint shrimp and rest of the cleanup crew? would a small wrasse be ok instead or would that be worse?

[justinf67]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Been here a few times, but gonna throw out my list as I think I have it finalized.

75G Current Stock:
Coral Beauty
2 Black and white ocellaris
2 engineer gobies (If they cause issues in the tank, they will be rehomed)
Yellow watchman Goby
(Had a Flame Hawk, he is now in my sump till I can bring him to LFS, as he attacked the new clowns and my YWG. Can't handle his aggression)

Future additions, listed in order of addition.
Midas Blenny
Trio/Harem of appropriate Fairy/Flasher Wrasses (Not sure which yet and I wont ask for suggestions)
Kole Tang....
This will complete the stocking in my 75g.

this should be fine. I am surprised about the flame hawk, that is unusual for this fish

I just started a new 40g breeder. Once its done cycling, my list for it isnot all at once obviously)

1st, Firefish.
2nd, Hifin goby yasha possibly with pistol shrimp, not sure yet
3rd, pair of orange ocellaris
4th, Royal Gramma,
5th/last fish, Flame Angel

that also sounds fine, ideally in that order

How does the stock list look for each tank? Thanks again for your assistance

Thanks for the help! I have done some research and it seems the flame hawk can be hit or miss. Depending on size and when added to the tank. I had thought of trying again later down the road. Would it be possible to add him to my 75g stocklist later down the road? Or would I be too overstocked? If I do try a flame hawk again, I will buy the smallest one possible and watch his behavior in the store if possible before making a decision

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by scubawarm

First off: Thanks for your efforts snorvich!

120 gallon mixed reef. 48x24x24 with LOTS of long tunnels and caves in the rockwork.
With maybe a little too much cleaning crew.

CURRENTLY HAVE
Amphiprion ocellaris (Ocellaris Clown Fish) - PAIR very small/young
Forcipiger Flavissimus (Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish) Doesn’t touch corals hunts for PODS all day long
Gramma loreto (Royal Gramma Basslet)


WANT TO ADD
Chromis viridis (Green Chromis Fish) 3ea could be easily talked out of. chromis have been coming in wit problems, but even without that, three will become fewer over time
Ecsenius stigmatura (Tail spot Blenny Fish)
Cryptocentrus cinctus (Yellow Watchman Goby Fish)
Paracheilinus mccoskeri (McCoskeri Fairy Wrasse Fish) Male – Pair if I can find a female too
Cirrhilabrus scottorum (Scott's Fairy Wrasse) PAIR I strongly recommend against C. scottorum as they are incredibly aggressive
Ctenochaetus flavicauda (White Tail Bristletooth Tang)
Heniochus diphreutes (Schooling Bannerfish) If you think there is room

If you drop the chromis and C. scottorum there should be room

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by willienelson

36G elos midi with LPS and SPS

I've got no fish in the tank now, but I have a mostly snail clean up crew with 2 halloween hermits, 2 peppermint shrimp and a fancy brittle sea star

would like to add over several months

next month
1x Picasso clown (Amphiprion percula)
1x Yellow Clown Goby (Gobiodon okinawae)

a few months later
1x Candy basslet (Liopropoma carmabi)

finally
1x Orchid Dottyback (Pseudochromis fridmani) would add this last While P. fridmani is one of the least aggressive pseudochromis, I would not risk a candy baslet with it
do I need to be worried for the peppermint shrimp and rest of the cleanup crew? would a small wrasse be ok instead or would that be worse?

I cannot advocate any wrasse except one of the possum wrasses in this size tank

[codemann]

I had a well established 75 gallon reef tank with several corals fish and live rock. I gave it to one of my employees several years ago. I decided to get back into the hobby and it turned out the tank I gave away was available but he completely stopped taking care of it. everything died in the tank and the live rock was all pure white. he had water circulating with no changes for a couple years. I cleaned it all up which was a ton of work. I couldnt afford to buy new live sand and he said it was all good so I used it and after putting everything in the tank and the dust settled there was about a quarter of an inch of what appears to be actual mud so I have been doing regular water changes to remove it.. I have a large sump with a protien skimmer and about 100lbs of live rock that now that I have good water and a few seachem additives my rock is starting to show alot of coraline algae through out. there has been some green hair algae starting to grow so I purchased a few snails and hermit crabs for now as I dont want to go crazy just yet. Old lighting was in pretty bad shape so I bought a 3w led 32 light with actinc blue and white leds. I plan on getting one more when I can afford it. also put a smaller led light above sump but havent done anything else with sump yet. My wife and grandkids showed up last night with three blue and yellow Damsels with out asking. apparently grandma couldnt say no. anyway I didnt want to brak their hearts so I tested water real quick and then aclimated them and put them in the tank. Just hope they dont get to aggressive as they are real fast and I have alot of rock. Im a fan of gobies and blennies and eventually I will get a couple clowns 2 or 3 Naso tangs and maybe a Hippo after I get some corals established.

[Sleepingtiger]

This is what I have, please let me know if you think I have too much bioload

Red Sea Max 130 (34G)
60lbs of Fiji
3" yellow tang - i know i know, tang + nano is a bad idea. But my wife insist and was promised an upgrade to a larger tank in the future
6 line wrasse
flame angel
3" maroon
2 firefish
some snails and hermit crabs
2 rbta
3 head hammer head
3 peppermint shrimp
was thinking about adding a dottyback or removing the maroon and getting 2 true percs.

Thanks for any input

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by codemann

I had a well established 75 gallon reef tank with several corals fish and live rock. I gave it to one of my employees several years ago. I decided to get back into the hobby and it turned out the tank I gave away was available but he completely stopped taking care of it. everything died in the tank and the live rock was all pure white. he had water circulating with no changes for a couple years. I cleaned it all up which was a ton of work. I couldnt afford to buy new live sand and he said it was all good so I used it and after putting everything in the tank and the dust settled there was about a quarter of an inch of what appears to be actual mud so I have been doing regular water changes to remove it.. I have a large sump with a protien skimmer and about 100lbs of live rock that now that I have good water and a few seachem additives my rock is starting to show alot of coraline algae through out. there has been some green hair algae starting to grow so I purchased a few snails and hermit crabs for now as I dont want to go crazy just yet. Old lighting was in pretty bad shape so I bought a 3w led 32 light with actinc blue and white leds. I plan on getting one more when I can afford it. also put a smaller led light above sump but havent done anything else with sump yet. My wife and grandkids showed up last night with three blue and yellow Damsels with out asking. apparently grandma couldnt say no. anyway I didnt want to brak their hearts so I tested water real quick and then aclimated them and put them in the tank. Just hope they dont get to aggressive as they are real fast and I have alot of rock. Im a fan of gobies and blennies and eventually I will get a couple clowns 2 or 3 Naso tangs and maybe a Hippo after I get some corals established.

Unfortunately, none of the fish mentioned: damsels, naso tangs, hippo tangs are appropriate for this tank if you really want to be in the hobby.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Sleepingtiger

This is what I have, please let me know if you think I have too much bioload

Red Sea Max 130 (34G)
60lbs of Fiji
3" yellow tang - i know i know, tang + nano is a bad idea. But my wife insist and was promised an upgrade to a larger tank in the future
6 line wrasse
flame angel
3" maroon
2 firefish
some snails and hermit crabs
2 rbta
3 head hammer head
3 peppermint shrimp
was thinking about adding a dottyback or removing the maroon and getting 2 true percs.

Thanks for any input

You have too great a bioload and inappropriately aggressive fish.

[Sleepingtiger]

Originally Posted by snorvich

You have too great a bioload and inappropriately aggressive fish.

I currently have too much a bioload with or without the addition of the dottyback or percs?

which fish is aggressive? the maroon is a little aggressive at first, but they are happy and co exist with no problems.

what fish do you recommend i remove?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Sleepingtiger

I currently have too much a bioload with or without the addition of the dottyback or percs?

which fish is aggressive? the maroon is a little aggressive at first, but they are happy and co exist with no problems.

what fish do you recommend i remove?

You have:

3" yellow tang -- inappropriate to a nano, requires a much larger tank and will be hyper aggressive because it will feel cramped
6 line wrasse -- aggressive, especially in a small tank
flame angel
3" maroon -- very aggressive, especially in a small tank
2 firefish -- unless a male + female, not long term viable but certainly not with a sixline which will intimidate them eventually into starvation.

Basically, giving you advice would not be useful to you given that you have a base that will be a problem; if you remove the tang, sixline, and maroon clown that would put you back on the right track.

[d3snoopy]

Nothing purchased yet... dreaming about the big move up to SW:

Tank size: 90 gal or 120 gal
55gal sump/refugium
Zoas/LPS initially; potential for SPS down the line

Idea for livestock, in order of addition to tank:

Clean Up Crew Package
A few shrimp
Yellow Tang
watchman goby
bicolor blenny
2x yellow tail damselfish
Pair Ocellaris clown fish

.......

After the tank is well established:
Copper Band Butterfly
Bubble Anemone

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by d3snoopy

Nothing purchased yet... dreaming about the big move up to SW:

Tank size: 90 gal or 120 gal
55gal sump/refugium
Zoas/LPS initially; potential for SPS down the line

Idea for livestock, in order of addition to tank:

Clean Up Crew Package
A few shrimp
Yellow Tang
watchman goby
bicolor blenny
2x yellow tail damselfish
Pair Ocellaris clown fish

.......

After the tank is well established:
Copper Band Butterfly
Bubble Anemone

Other than the yellow tailed damsels, (which I do not recommend because of aggression), the list is fine.

[Sleepingtiger]

Originally Posted by snorvich

You have:

3" yellow tang -- inappropriate to a nano, requires a much larger tank and will be hyper aggressive because it will feel cramped
6 line wrasse -- aggressive, especially in a small tank
flame angel
3" maroon -- very aggressive, especially in a small tank
2 firefish -- unless a male + female, not long term viable but certainly not with a sixline which will intimidate them eventually into starvation.

Basically, giving you advice would not be useful to you given that you have a base that will be a problem; if you remove the tang, sixline, and maroon clown that would put you back on the right track.

oh wow, i didn't think it would that big a problem. I do feel the tang is cramped, but my wife insist and i can't avoid it. as a matter a fact, she wanted a bigger one.

sounds like the biggest issue is the small tank. I too hate that little tank. But again i have to deal with my wife when it comes to aquariums. maybe with this, my wife will let me upgrade sooner than later. thanks for the advice!

[Tickyty]

Thinking of adding a Powder Brown and a Sailfin Tang to a 90. This is a mixed reef with SPS, LPS and Softies. Inhabitants are:
Black Osc. Clowns 2
3 Pajama Cardinals
3 damsels
Lawn Mower Blenny
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint shrimp
Green serpent
Banded Serpent

[FTDelta]

Final Fish stock list for future 46G bowfront:

2 Ocelleris Clownfish - one will be a b&w Ocelleris Clownfish
2 Bangaii or PJ Cardinalfish (M & F)
2 Blueline Chromis
Possum Wrasse
Royal Gramma

Either :

1 Clown Goby - either Citrinis or Green

OR

2 or 3 Greenbanded Goby

Multicolor Dwarf Angelfish (last fish added)


Once I have gained enough experience, I'd like to add a Madarin Dragonette. How difficult are they to have? What are the requirements?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Tickyty

Thinking of adding a Powder Brown and a Sailfin Tang to a 90. This is a mixed reef with SPS, LPS and Softies. Inhabitants are:
Black Osc. Clowns 2
3 Pajama Cardinals
3 damsels
Lawn Mower Blenny
Cleaner Shrimp
Peppermint shrimp
Green serpent
Banded Serpent

We do not recommend 2 tangs in a 90 gallon tank and in fact do not recommend either a sailfin tang or a powder brown in a 90 gallon tank in any case.