Show off your tangs - Page 17

JCR's Reef · 05/10/2008, 01:15 PM

No I have to wait for him to be done playing to get it back. He takes it to the top of the tank and drops it, then chases it down. Does it for a couple of minutes, then I get it back. Of course I have to go all the way to the bottom of the tank to get it!

Aquarist007 · 05/10/2008, 01:35 PM

I have never seen retriever before in a tang--awesome

icedgxe · 05/10/2008, 02:41 PM

Here are a couple of pics of my lieutenant tang and kole tang...

Aquarist007 · 05/10/2008, 02:47 PM

really great shots

icedgxe · 05/10/2008, 10:23 PM

thanks!

downhillbiker · 05/11/2008, 01:03 AM

Here's my favorite. My tomini tang. I just am shocked every day by the great personality and the awesome colors, i have seen several tomini tangs, but i really like how dark mine is and how dark/bright the orange is. i will try to get some close ups with the new camera tomorrow.

Reeftanks6 · 05/11/2008, 05:30 AM

Very nice pics everybody

Aquarist007 · 05/11/2008, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by downhillbiker
Here's my favorite. My tomini tang. I just am shocked every day by the great personality and the awesome colors, i have seen several tomini tangs, but i really like how dark mine is and how dark/bright the orange is. i will try to get some close ups with the new camera tomorrow.

I love the tomini tang also --I would love to add one to my 120--but 4 tangs---am I little cautious that I might be pushing it here??

dirtyclownfish · 05/11/2008, 10:59 AM

Here is my chocolate tang:

downhillbiker · 05/11/2008, 12:18 PM

Here's a couple new ones of my tomini tang:

HarleyDude · 05/11/2008, 12:31 PM

In our 180g reef tank:
Yellow:

Purple:

In our Puffer tank:
Desjardini:

See this video of our Desjardini, who thinks he is a tang

robnuti · 05/11/2008, 01:00 PM

I have to play, here is our Naso Tang. We have only had him for a couple of weeks. He came from someone who was selling their tank and the new owner didn't want him. His loss is our gain. He is so personable. When we walk up to the tank he will swim over by us. He begs like a dog. When I have Nori in my hands he swims by his lettuce clip waiting for his treat. He sees the Nori outside the tank and knows what it is. He is so cool.

kar93 · 05/11/2008, 01:01 PM

Great shots everyone

robnuti - Hes a beaut, his loss is certainly your gain!

Neptune777 · 05/11/2008, 01:55 PM

Some updated shots of the gang:

kar93 · 05/11/2008, 02:02 PM

Great shots Neptune, I love your Achilles!

Tajjo · 05/11/2008, 09:04 PM

does anybody know where I can find a small adult orange shoulder tang?

Goodwin9 · 05/12/2008, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tajjo
does anybody know where I can find a small adult orange shoulder tang?

Adullts aren't small.......

kar93 · 05/13/2008, 10:37 AM

I'd like to start some discussion on this thread about Tang Myths and Theories. Here are some things that I hear alot:

Tangs should be kept in tank no less than 4ft - I disagree because i have seen tank in 32" tanks and the tangs are thriving, obviously these tangs are babies and will grow fast and need moving to a bigger tank fast but they seem fat, healthy and disease free. My LFS has a tiny Yellow and Hippo tang in an RSM! These tangs will grow fast obviously but they are also thriving.

Tangs have a big affect on bioload - I have seen a 40g with a PBT (brown), Hippo and a Kole and they had 0 Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates and Phosphates. So IMO if you maintain a well kept system with a good amount of filtration then things may be fine.

Obviously these are only a couple of things that are believed out there so I would like to know some things that you have all read.

Thanks

JCR's Reef · 05/13/2008, 04:31 PM

How many times do people want to argue over tangs? They are beautiful, awsome fish that have personality (Good and Bad).
How many grouper's are in a 55g, sharks in a 100g? Aligators in a 5x5 cage?

It's an endless battle.
It is only a myth if you dont look for the long term health and life of the tang. Or any animal for that matter.
Tangs swim all the time, and graze none stop. If you put the amount of rock they need in a 30g to feed off of, they would have no room to swim, stress out, get sick, and die like most tangs do.
Putting tangs in a 40g and maintaing zero amm. and such is possible for the advanced hobbiest if you have a big enough filter system and maintain the tank and such. I think the smaller tangs would be fine in 4 foot tanks. But you have to look at some tangs get to 8", thats only about 3 feet of swimming room (not 4') . That kind of setup should only be maintained by the most dedicated aquarist.
Most fish stores have all there tanks plumbed together, then going to a sump, and filter system, which means more water volume. They still dont have alot of room to swim, and arent in the healthiest condition.
Most people wont feed them accordingly to maintain them for long periods of time in a small setup, or over feed and dont stick with a water changing schedule. Then there wondering what happened? I dont understand! He was perfectly healthy?!?. Bottom line is most people shouldnt cram them because the majority of people are too lazy or too busy to keep up with the bio load.
Here's a so called myth. Fish grow to their environment. Alot of people will say its true, and I'm not going to argue with them. Feed sparingly so they dont grow too quick!??
People do it too all kinds of fish and animals. They either dont know better, or just dont care. Majority dont care.
Dont take this as you hit a nerve or I'm ranting

There are successful people out there that take great care of their animals and value there life. I applaud them. I'm just simply starting what has been stated over and over.

kar93 · 05/14/2008, 04:39 AM

Oh no, I completely understand what you mean. I dont really believe the fish grow to their environment thing. Just because something is too small for them to swim, thats not to say it wont grow. I rememmber on another reefing website I saw somebody who had kept a Hippo tang from a baby in a Cube (55g I think) and it was nearly the size of the front glass. It didn't look like it had any disease but I very much doubt that fish was healthy nor happy.

Reeftanks6 · 05/14/2008, 05:18 AM

Kar i think if you have a good sized aquarium with good levels you can keep a good amount of tangs. Like 2-3. This is in a 4ft tank. I think that the 4 ft tank gives them enough room to swim and enough room to grow. I mean this is what i think is true but it might not be true. Like you could keep a naso in a 100g tank just be ready to upgrade or take him out in a year or 2. Same goes with the other big tangs out there.

Reeftanks6 · 05/14/2008, 05:23 AM

One other story i have is that. I was looking onlin one time and i saw this beautiful 75g tank all set-up. I know it was reef but i believe it was mostly SPS. I mean this tank was great. Here was his fish list if i can remember right.

Naso Tang
PBT
Tomini
I belive there was one more not sure though
2 types of clowns
Blue throat
and some more fish.
This is what i remember from the tank

The tank was amazing looking everything was good. The fish were completely healthy. They were fat. All the levels were zero. I just dont know how he did it.

kar93 · 05/14/2008, 09:02 AM

I'm not trying to get a big debate about tank size and bioload here. I am just wondering about things you all hear such as Tangs showing there lateral line is a disease. Tangs can and will get ich.

JCR's Reef · 05/15/2008, 01:04 PM

Some say that the lateral line disease is from tangs being taken from the Red Sea ( which is a higher SG) and then we are putting them in our tanks with lower SG. Dont know if its true or not though.

TheSaltwaterGuy · 05/15/2008, 01:45 PM

05/10/2008, 01:15 PM	#401
JCR's Reef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana Posts: 1,303	No I have to wait for him to be done playing to get it back. He takes it to the top of the tank and drops it, then chases it down. Does it for a couple of minutes, then I get it back. Of course I have to go all the way to the bottom of the tank to get it! __________________ >Josh< Current Tank Info: Starphire Rimless Tank, ATB Elegance 200. Click on my name and visit my build thread. Lots of pics

05/10/2008, 01:35 PM	#402
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	I have never seen retriever before in a tang--awesome __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

05/10/2008, 02:47 PM	#404
Aquarist007 Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hamilton, Canada Posts: 28,240 Blog Entries: 1	really great shots __________________ I prefer my substrates stirred but not shaken Current Tank Info: 150gal long mixed reef, 90gal sump, 60 gal refugium with 200 lbs live rock

05/11/2008, 01:03 AM	#406
downhillbiker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,831	Here's my favorite. My tomini tang. I just am shocked every day by the great personality and the awesome colors, i have seen several tomini tangs, but i really like how dark mine is and how dark/bright the orange is. i will try to get some close ups with the new camera tomorrow. __________________ The friendliest GIANT you'll ever meet. Current Tank Info: 200g Marineland Deep Dimension (Lumenmax Reflectors/Dual PFO 400w/Radium 20K) and 2xFrag Tanks (One TEK T5 fixture and one MH, Galaxy/Phoenix) on same system w/100g sump w/6"x100g DSB, AquaC EV-1000 Skimmer, Reeflo Barracuda return pump

05/11/2008, 05:30 AM	#407
Reeftanks6 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 3,857	Very nice pics everybody __________________ 110g Reef build in progress Current Tank Info: 110 Gallon Reef

05/10/2008, 02:41 PM	#403
icedgxe Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 330	Here are a couple of pics of my lieutenant tang and kole tang...

05/10/2008, 10:23 PM	#405
icedgxe Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 330	thanks!

05/11/2008, 10:59 AM	#409
dirtyclownfish Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Lebanon, IN Posts: 257	Here is my chocolate tang: __________________ L.P.Patmore Current Tank Info: 55 Gallon Display Tank, Euroreef RS-100 Skimmer, 30 Gallon Sump, Current USA Gamma UV Sterilizer, Current USA T5 Lights

05/11/2008, 12:18 PM	#410
downhillbiker Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 2,831	Here's a couple new ones of my tomini tang: __________________ The friendliest GIANT you'll ever meet. Current Tank Info: 200g Marineland Deep Dimension (Lumenmax Reflectors/Dual PFO 400w/Radium 20K) and 2xFrag Tanks (One TEK T5 fixture and one MH, Galaxy/Phoenix) on same system w/100g sump w/6"x100g DSB, AquaC EV-1000 Skimmer, Reeflo Barracuda return pump

05/11/2008, 12:31 PM	#411
HarleyDude Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 59	In our 180g reef tank: Yellow: Purple: In our Puffer tank: Desjardini: See this video of our Desjardini, who thinks he is a tang

05/11/2008, 01:00 PM	#412
robnuti Registered Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Roseville, CA. Posts: 249	I have to play, here is our Naso Tang. We have only had him for a couple of weeks. He came from someone who was selling their tank and the new owner didn't want him. His loss is our gain. He is so personable. When we walk up to the tank he will swim over by us. He begs like a dog. When I have Nori in my hands he swims by his lettuce clip waiting for his treat. He sees the Nori outside the tank and knows what it is. He is so cool.

05/11/2008, 01:01 PM	#413
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	Great shots everyone robnuti - Hes a beaut, his loss is certainly your gain!

05/11/2008, 01:55 PM	#414
Neptune777 Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,700	Some updated shots of the gang:

05/11/2008, 02:02 PM	#415
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	Great shots Neptune, I love your Achilles!

05/11/2008, 09:04 PM	#416
Tajjo Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Denver Posts: 1,039	does anybody know where I can find a small adult orange shoulder tang? __________________ Expect the worst and hope for the best! Current Tank Info: 75 gal display, 40 breeder sump. 1 Tunze 6105, 1 Maxi Jet mod, octopuss nw 200, 618 GEO calcium reactor, 2 250w mh icecap pendant with icecap ballast, pheonix bulbs, with 4 t5 VHO actinic

05/13/2008, 10:37 AM	#418
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	I'd like to start some discussion on this thread about Tang Myths and Theories. Here are some things that I hear alot: Tangs should be kept in tank no less than 4ft - I disagree because i have seen tank in 32" tanks and the tangs are thriving, obviously these tangs are babies and will grow fast and need moving to a bigger tank fast but they seem fat, healthy and disease free. My LFS has a tiny Yellow and Hippo tang in an RSM! These tangs will grow fast obviously but they are also thriving. Tangs have a big affect on bioload - I have seen a 40g with a PBT (brown), Hippo and a Kole and they had 0 Ammonia, Nitrites, Nitrates and Phosphates. So IMO if you maintain a well kept system with a good amount of filtration then things may be fine. Obviously these are only a couple of things that are believed out there so I would like to know some things that you have all read. Thanks

05/13/2008, 04:31 PM	#419
JCR's Reef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana Posts: 1,303	How many times do people want to argue over tangs? They are beautiful, awsome fish that have personality (Good and Bad). How many grouper's are in a 55g, sharks in a 100g? Aligators in a 5x5 cage? It's an endless battle. It is only a myth if you dont look for the long term health and life of the tang. Or any animal for that matter. Tangs swim all the time, and graze none stop. If you put the amount of rock they need in a 30g to feed off of, they would have no room to swim, stress out, get sick, and die like most tangs do. Putting tangs in a 40g and maintaing zero amm. and such is possible for the advanced hobbiest if you have a big enough filter system and maintain the tank and such. I think the smaller tangs would be fine in 4 foot tanks. But you have to look at some tangs get to 8", thats only about 3 feet of swimming room (not 4') . That kind of setup should only be maintained by the most dedicated aquarist. Most fish stores have all there tanks plumbed together, then going to a sump, and filter system, which means more water volume. They still dont have alot of room to swim, and arent in the healthiest condition. Most people wont feed them accordingly to maintain them for long periods of time in a small setup, or over feed and dont stick with a water changing schedule. Then there wondering what happened? I dont understand! He was perfectly healthy?!?. Bottom line is most people shouldnt cram them because the majority of people are too lazy or too busy to keep up with the bio load. Here's a so called myth. Fish grow to their environment. Alot of people will say its true, and I'm not going to argue with them. Feed sparingly so they dont grow too quick!?? People do it too all kinds of fish and animals. They either dont know better, or just dont care. Majority dont care. Dont take this as you hit a nerve or I'm ranting There are successful people out there that take great care of their animals and value there life. I applaud them. I'm just simply starting what has been stated over and over. __________________ >Josh< Current Tank Info: Starphire Rimless Tank, ATB Elegance 200. Click on my name and visit my build thread. Lots of pics

05/14/2008, 04:39 AM	#420
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	Oh no, I completely understand what you mean. I dont really believe the fish grow to their environment thing. Just because something is too small for them to swim, thats not to say it wont grow. I rememmber on another reefing website I saw somebody who had kept a Hippo tang from a baby in a Cube (55g I think) and it was nearly the size of the front glass. It didn't look like it had any disease but I very much doubt that fish was healthy nor happy.

05/14/2008, 05:18 AM	#421
Reeftanks6 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 3,857	Kar i think if you have a good sized aquarium with good levels you can keep a good amount of tangs. Like 2-3. This is in a 4ft tank. I think that the 4 ft tank gives them enough room to swim and enough room to grow. I mean this is what i think is true but it might not be true. Like you could keep a naso in a 100g tank just be ready to upgrade or take him out in a year or 2. Same goes with the other big tangs out there. __________________ 110g Reef build in progress Current Tank Info: 110 Gallon Reef

05/14/2008, 05:23 AM	#422
Reeftanks6 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: PA Posts: 3,857	One other story i have is that. I was looking onlin one time and i saw this beautiful 75g tank all set-up. I know it was reef but i believe it was mostly SPS. I mean this tank was great. Here was his fish list if i can remember right. Naso Tang PBT Tomini I belive there was one more not sure though 2 types of clowns Blue throat and some more fish. This is what i remember from the tank The tank was amazing looking everything was good. The fish were completely healthy. They were fat. All the levels were zero. I just dont know how he did it. __________________ 110g Reef build in progress Current Tank Info: 110 Gallon Reef

05/14/2008, 09:02 AM	#423
kar93 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Lincoln Posts: 5,521	I'm not trying to get a big debate about tank size and bioload here. I am just wondering about things you all hear such as Tangs showing there lateral line is a disease. Tangs can and will get ich.

05/15/2008, 01:04 PM	#424
JCR's Reef Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana Posts: 1,303	Some say that the lateral line disease is from tangs being taken from the Red Sea ( which is a higher SG) and then we are putting them in our tanks with lower SG. Dont know if its true or not though. __________________ >Josh< Current Tank Info: Starphire Rimless Tank, ATB Elegance 200. Click on my name and visit my build thread. Lots of pics

05/15/2008, 01:45 PM	#425
TheSaltwaterGuy Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,482	__________________ - Chad "The man who smiles when things go wrong has thought of someone to blame it on." - Robert Bloch