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[snorvich]

Originally Posted by TaNuki

Ok,

125 reef tank. 3 Koralia 4's running.

Here is the line up:

1- Yellow Tang
1- Niger Trigger (starting with a small maybe 3-4 inch juvenile) I do not recommend this fish as it will outgrown you tank and is aggressive
2- Watchmen Goby Only one, they will not coexist
1-3 Stripe Damsel I generally do not recommend damsels due to their aggressive nature
1- Lemon Damsel
2- Ocellaris Clown
1- Lunare Wrasse an aggressive wrasse that is not reef safe
1 Dwarf Flame Angel

A lot of potentially aggressive fish; a peaceful tank will cause fewer problems long term

[nickburke]

Hello, hypothetical at the moment as im considering ditching my 80g column-ish tank for a 150g/ custom acrylic.
Custom acrylic... 1.2m L x 0.6m W x 0.75m H ... or 46.8''x23''x29''.
My reef experience. 0. Planning on starting with FLOWLR first then moving onto inverts and corals

Proposed Fishes, but Im not heavily clued up here so expect this to be morbidly wrong, and also if someone could advise me on my stocking acceptability that'd be appreciated.

-Amphiprion ocellaris (2-4?) I read only 1 works?
-Green Chromis (3-5?)
-tiger Piston Shrimp + Yellow Watchmen Goby combo
-Diamond Watchmen Goby (will it work with the above)?
- Bannerfish (diphreutes apparently less destructive species?) -numbers?
-Flame Hawkfish (to be a starter hardy fish?)
-Koran Angelfish..Tank plus aggression may be issue?
--Yellow Tang (unsure on numbers?)
OR
-Regal Tang OR Blue Surgeon Fish. Am aware that these 3 generally don't get along with each other but yellows can be grouped? My preference is for a Regal.
-Cleaner Wrasse - for its beneficial cleaning services?


+ a few invertebrates as clean up crew

I feel potentially the tangs and Anglefish may be pushing the stocking levels?

Cheers
Nick

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by nickburke

Hello, hypothetical at the moment as im considering ditching my 80g column-ish tank for a 150g/ custom acrylic.
Custom acrylic... 1.2m L x 0.6m W x 0.75m H ... or 46.8''x23''x29''.

If this is truly custom, do you have control over the dimensions? If so, I would recommend making the width of the aquarium a bit greater, such as 30 inches.

My reef experience. 0. Planning on starting with FLOWLR first then moving onto inverts and corals

Proposed Fishes, but Im not heavily clued up here so expect this to be morbidly wrong, and also if someone could advise me on my stocking acceptability that'd be appreciated.

-Amphiprion ocellaris (2-4?) I read only 1 works?

You are limited to two, any more will become surplus and killed
-Green Chromis (3-5?)
-tiger Piston Shrimp + Yellow Watchmen Goby combo
-Diamond Watchmen Goby (will it work with the above)?

You can have the yellow watchman or the diamond but not both

- Bannerfish (diphreutes apparently less destructive species?) -numbers?

Yes, more reef safe. I would go with only one
-Flame Hawkfish (to be a starter hardy fish?)

You should not use a fish to cycle. This fish will eat shrimp so careful here

-Koran Angelfish..Tank plus aggression may be issue?

Not reef safe; all large angels are semi aggressive

--Yellow Tang (unsure on numbers?)
OR
-Regal Tang OR Blue Surgeon Fish. Am aware that these 3 generally don't get along with each other but yellows can be grouped? My preference is for a Regal.

The P. hepatus really needs a larger tank. One yellow would work.

-Cleaner Wrasse - for its beneficial cleaning services?

They do nothing for parasites, their longevity is questionable except for the African ones


+ a few invertebrates as clean up crew

I feel potentially the tangs and Anglefish may be pushing the stocking levels?

Tangs may be a problem. One angelfish can work if you get one compatible with whatever corals you plan to keep. They are NOT reef safe, some are SPS safe.

Cheers
Nick

[NP_Reef]

tank is aprox 200g total water in system aprox 260ish

what i curently have:

yellow tang
melanarus wrasse
line spot flasher wrasse
leopard wrasse
dracula goby
(2) snowflake clowns


what id like to add:
golden dwarf moray eel
rhomboid wrasse
coral beauty
another smaller tang, posibably a powder blue

thoughts? suggestions?

[nickburke]

Thanks snorvich for the prompt and helpful reply. Some good food for thought.
Curious why you recommend another 30inch? Im guessing moore horizontal swimming space is better? I cant really go any bigger than what the dimensions are for the fact it wont fit well in the house.. about another 15inch would be the limit.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by nickburke

Thanks snorvich for the prompt and helpful reply. Some good food for thought.
Curious why you recommend another 30inch? Im guessing moore horizontal swimming space is better? I cant really go any bigger than what the dimensions are for the fact it wont fit well in the house.. about another 15inch would be the limit.

More horizontal swimming space is always good. But front to back is critical for aquascaping and perception. I was not suggesting another 30 inches but that you make the front to back a minimum of 30 inches.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by NP_Reef

tank is aprox 200g total water in system aprox 260ish

what i curently have:

yellow tang
melanarus wrasse
line spot flasher wrasse
leopard wrasse
dracula goby
(2) snowflake clowns


what id like to add:
golden dwarf moray eelThey are neat but you would most likely have to spot feed him or he might take small fish
rhomboid wrasse excellent
coral beauty I personally prefer a flame because of the brilliant coloration of Hawaiian flames
another smaller tang, posibably a powder blue The yellow is likely to give it a problem but it may work out

thoughts? suggestions?

[nickburke]

Oh i see, sorry i missed the crucial word 'width'.
Yer 30 inch is achievable, possibly even a bit more.

Thanks,
Nick

[playaslk]

180 gallon 6 x 2 x 2. currently have 0 in there but i do have a yellow tang and a powder blue in the QT. They are getting along fine. I want to maybe add a desjardini tang and/or naso tang and a yellow kole tang (bringing the total to 4 tangs total in the system, would be introduced at the same time). Is the naso too big for a 180? most places state that its the smallest recommended, same for desjardini. I dont want to buy a tang and have to upgrade the tank later. Not my goal. I want to keep this tank and have the fish live its life in it.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by nickburke

Oh i see, sorry i missed the crucial word 'width'.
Yer 30 inch is achievable, possibly even a bit more.

Thanks,
Nick

If you can do a width (front to back) that is at least 30 inches, you will be happy you did.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by playaslk

180 gallon 6 x 2 x 2. currently have 0 in there but i do have a yellow tang and a powder blue in the QT. They are getting along fine. I want to maybe add a desjardini tang and/or naso tang and a yellow kole tang (bringing the total to 4 tangs total in the system, would be introduced at the same time). Is the naso too big for a 180? most places state that its the smallest recommended, same for desjardini. I dont want to buy a tang and have to upgrade the tank later. Not my goal. I want to keep this tank and have the fish live its life in it.

I hate being a naysayer when it comes to tangs. Both a naso and desjardini would be cramped in a tank that is only six feet long. The other problem is that when you get large fish, it makes your tank seem very small. The minimum in my opinion is an 8 foot tank.

[muitroc]

My lfs has one that they have had for a few months and it eats bloodworms. It looks really cool and I read that they stay near their caves and if fed adequately would not be predatorial. My current tank is a 4 foot 90 gallon tank with 29g sump.

Other inhabitants:
Bicolor blennie
2 clownfish - mated
Fairy wrasse - trying to catch and remove
Yellow tail damsel - trying to catch and remove

75lbs live rock
2" live sand bed

What other fish are compatible with the betta? I do eventually want a tang and/or trigger as well. Are they to aggressive, energetic for the betta even though it is a predator?

[Toddrtrex]

Originally Posted by muitroc

My lfs has one that they have had for a few months and it eats bloodworms. It looks really cool and I read that they stay near their caves and if fed adequately would not be predatorial. My current tank is a 4 foot 90 gallon tank with 29g sump.

Other inhabitants:
Bicolor blennie
2 clownfish - mated
Fairy wrasse - trying to catch and remove
Yellow tail damsel - trying to catch and remove

75lbs live rock
2" live sand bed

What other fish are compatible with the betta? I do eventually want a tang and/or trigger as well. Are they to aggressive, energetic for the betta even though it is a predator?

I wouldn't put any trigger in a 4 foot tank, they just get too big. In addition, the more cramped they feel, the more aggressive they are going to become. As for the tang, think that would be fine with a betta, assuming you stick with one of the smaller tangs.

[snorvich]

According to Drs. F&S:


The Marine Betta, sometimes referred to as the Comet, is found in rocky crevasses, at depths up to 45 meters. It is a hardy and disease-resistant fish. A predator by nature, it assumes a "head down" position, with its false "eye spot" near the tail resembling the head of a moray eel.

The Marine Betta is not commonly kept in a reef-style aquarium, but it is reported to be safe with corals and anemones, however, it will eat all small fish and shrimp. It is nocturnal and requires hiding places to provide it shelter from bright lighting, being more active at dusk.

When first introduced into the aquarium, live saltwater feeder shrimp should be used to entice this fish to eat. Using live foods such as feeder fish or shrimp will help it adjust. Once acclimated, it can be fed meaty foods and frozen preparations 2-4 times weekly.

I am unconvinced that this fish, even if well fed, will not eat your smaller fish.

And I totally agree with Todd; do not put a trigger in your tank

[sscat22]

Could I put a Hectors goby and a small, maybe two neon gobys in the same tank

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by sscat22

Could I put a Hectors goby and a small, maybe two neon gobys in the same tank

Yes. But the neon gobies will not coexist unless they are a pair. Two small fish in a ten gallon tank is doable.

[AlexS95]

How would a Rock Beauty Angelfish (Holacanthus tricolor) fare with a Coral Beauty and a Flame Angel do in a 220? I heard keeping Angels in groups (3+) would reduce hostility, but not sure about the validity of it.

[Toddrtrex]

My concern would be making sure that the Rock Beauty is eating, and healthy (( at least for 6 months )) before adding any other angels to the take -- mainly because of the poor track record of Rocks.

[Afishperson]

Hey all I plan on 100g fowlr want as many of theese fish as possible
Wartskin angler.
Clown trigger and
Stars and stripes puffers
Could I possibly put them all in one tank?
That would be sweet
Thanks

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Afishperson

Hey all I plan on 100g fowlr want as many of theese fish as possible
Wartskin angler.
Clown trigger and
Stars and stripes puffers
Could I possibly put them all in one tank?
That would be sweet
Thanks

Absolutely not. The clown trigger cannot go in a 100 gallon tank. I don't think the puffer and the angler would get along either.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Afishperson

Great, now I have to choose

Ah, don't we all!!

[Bigwyll]

125g RR, Aqueon Profles Model 4 Sump, ecoxotic Stunner LED Strips 8,000°K White/453nm Blue and ecoxotic Panorama LED Module 8,000°K/453nm Blue for refugium, Red Sea C-Skim 1800, ViaAqua Water Pump Model 1800 for skimmer, Mag 18 return, 1 fluval E Series 300w heater, 1 Petco 300w heater in sump, 4" DSB, 90lbs of LR, 2 Korolia 2 powerheads(sp?), currently running 4 t5 but will upgrade to AI LEDs for coral.

Currently stocked with a 6line wrasse, 2 peppermint shrimp in DTand 2 in sump, 3 turbo snails, 2 emerald crabs

I have been running this set up since Feb. and I want to stocking suggestions. I almost purchased a group of convict tangs, but didn't after some feedback from my local fish club. Any suggestions? I'm looking for bright and beautiful but am limited by my plans for Mix Reef and the size of the tank.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Bigwyll

125g RR, Aqueon Profles Model 4 Sump, ecoxotic Stunner LED Strips 8,000°K White/453nm Blue and ecoxotic Panorama LED Module 8,000°K/453nm Blue for refugium, Red Sea C-Skim 1800, ViaAqua Water Pump Model 1800 for skimmer, Mag 18 return, 1 fluval E Series 300w heater, 1 Petco 300w heater in sump, 4" DSB, 90lbs of LR, 2 Korolia 2 powerheads(sp?), currently running 4 t5 but will upgrade to AI LEDs for coral.

Currently stocked with a 6line wrasse, 2 peppermint shrimp in DTand 2 in sump, 3 turbo snails, 2 emerald crabs

I have been running this set up since Feb. and I want to stocking suggestions. I almost purchased a group of convict tangs, but didn't after some feedback from my local fish club. Any suggestions? I'm looking for bright and beautiful but am limited by my plans for Mix Reef and the size of the tank.

Actually we don't really make suggestions. What we do, however, is give you suitability suggestions for fish and tank size as well as other inhabitants. As an example, the sixline somewhat limits other fish in the tank.

[Bigwyll]

Oh. Okay. I was searching to see how others stocked there tanks when I found this thread. I'll come back when I get some ideas.

[Brycen97]

Do you guys think i can do a snowflake eel in a 90gal with a clown about an inch in a half and a pacific blue tankg and a 2 inch jewl damsale with zooanthids xina and green stars?