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[Bigez]

I'm thinking about adding a few more inhabitants and was wondering if you guys think it'd be too much or if there would be any conflicts between tankmates.

Current stats/ stock list:
100 Gallon 5ft x 1.5ft x 20 inches

Yellow Eye Kole Tang
Coral Beauty Angelfish
Firefish
Purple Firefish
Mandarin Dragonet

I want to add a pair of true percs, a yellow tang, and possibly a flasher wrasse.

So what do you guys think? Any problems that you can see?

Thanks in advance.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Brycen97

Do you guys think i can do a snowflake eel in a 90gal with a clown about an inch in a half and a pacific blue tankg and a 2 inch jewl damsale with zooanthids xina and green stars?

We recommend a 240 gallon tank for a blue tang. A snowflake (or any full sized eel) is a lot of bioload for a 90 gallon tank.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Bigez

I'm thinking about adding a few more inhabitants and was wondering if you guys think it'd be too much or if there would be any conflicts between tankmates.

Current stats/ stock list:
100 Gallon 5ft x 1.5ft x 20 inches

Yellow Eye Kole Tang
Coral Beauty Angelfish
Firefish Often times firefish do not tolerate conspecifics long term
Purple Firefish See above
Mandarin Dragonet

I want to add a pair of true percs, a yellow tang, and possibly a flasher wrasse.

Flasher wrasses sometimes harass firefish such that they hide and starve; I would only do one tang in that sized tank

So what do you guys think? Any problems that you can see?

Thanks in advance.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Bigwyll

Oh. Okay. I was searching to see how others stocked there tanks when I found this thread. I'll come back when I get some ideas.

Come back with ideas and we will be happy to provide commentary

[Dazed1]

Cross posting here since Steve is awesome with his responses

I had purchased a pair of regular (orange/black) tank bred oscellaris clown last week. The smaller one became a victim of the vortech. The one left is also a "baby" and pretty small.

I have the opportunity of getting a single ORA b&w oscellaris clown, maybe about 1/2" bigger than the current. And I also have the option of getting my hands on a pair of B&W oscellaris clown.

What would be suitable? Exchange the single misbar oscellaris clown for store credit and get the pair? Or is it ok to add a little large B&W oscellaris to my current "Charlie" ?

I have no other fish in the tank (28G cube), but have plans of adding other fish in the next few months.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Dazed1

Cross posting here since Steve is awesome with his responses

Thanks. Sometimes . . . .

I had purchased a pair of regular (orange/black) tank bred oscellaris clown last week. The smaller one became a victim of the vortech. The one left is also a "baby" and pretty small.

I have the opportunity of getting a single ORA b&w oscellaris clown, maybe about 1/2" bigger than the current. And I also have the option of getting my hands on a pair of B&W oscellaris clown.

What would be suitable? Exchange the single misbar oscellaris clown for store credit and get the pair? Or is it ok to add a little large B&W oscellaris to my current "Charlie" ?

I have no other fish in the tank (28G cube), but have plans of adding other fish in the next few months.

I always suggest no more than two clowns in any moderately sized tank because the odd man out (no pun intended) will usually get harassed and killed. In my experience it is always best to try to pair a clown with a smaller one. But I am concerned about the Vortech. Was the clown sick/weak?

[Dazed1]

Originally Posted by snorvich

I always suggest no more than two clowns in any moderately sized tank because the odd man out (no pun intended) will usually get harassed and killed. In my experience it is always best to try to pair a clown with a smaller one. But I am concerned about the Vortech. Was the clown sick/weak?

Sorry, to give a little bit of a background.

The clowns I got were from a tank which had about 30ish 1" baby osc. One about 3/4" and one about 1".

I left for work at about 8 amish, and saw both of them happily swimming together. My wife saw them after 2 hours too. Then around noon I get a call from my wife that she can't find Louis. She says no body either.

She looks around the tank in case it jumped. But being a nanocube, its completely shut. no place to jump. I checked the overflow area in case it swam there, removed all the rock, no fish. I finally saw what looked like the piece of the tail in the tank. Nothing else resmbling the body.

Hence the only suspects are the emerald crab (very possible) or the vortech due to no body parts being found. Looks like I have a mafia kind of tank

So now I have 1 clown in the tank. I'm split between getting 1 Ora Osc B&W clown to see if the orange and the black ones pair up. Or giving up the orange and getting an already paired (about 2") B&W, tank bred Osc.

[Toddrtrex]

Originally Posted by Dazed1

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So now I have 1 clown in the tank. I'm split between getting 1 Ora Osc B&W clown to see if the orange and the black ones pair up. Or giving up the orange and getting an already paired (about 2") B&W, tank bred Osc.

Honestly, I think the chances of getting a true pair b/t the 2 options is about the same. Shouldn't have any issues with one being orange and the other being B&W.

So, in the end, go with pair that appeals to you the best.

[Dazed1]

Originally Posted by Toddrtrex

Honestly, I think the chances of getting a true pair b/t the 2 options is about the same. Shouldn't have any issues with one being orange and the other being B&W.

So, in the end, go with pair that appeals to you the best.

Perfect, thanks. That makes the decision easier. the true pair (as on Liveaquaria's WSYISWYG section) is 150$ + shipping. And the Ora B&W is 40$. Also the wife has grown attached to the orange one.

I think a b&w + orange can make a decent vibrant color in the tank.

[Dazed1]

Here is the picture of the suspected killer

[MineeMarine]

So, I'm not entirely a beginner, it's more just being unsure about larger tanks... Which probably sounds odd, but anyways.

180 gallon DT, 6ftx2ftx2ft. 30 gallon sump, planning a separate refugium, but not running yet. High flow, SSB, 8 x 80 ATI fixture.

This is what I was thinking.. but I really am not sure what I want.


1 Mural Goby (already own)
1 Sailfin Tang (already own)
2 Gold Headed Sleeper Goby's (pair)
1 Flame Hawk
5 Bartlett/Lyrtail/Squareblock/Dispair Anthias
1 or 2 Decora Dartfish (possibly a pair)
1 Bicolour or Midas Blenny
1 Regal Tang

And the massive what if...

1 Moorish Idol

Is this stocking list too much for a 6x2x2 210 gallon reef? And do the Idols cause problems with corals? Would the tangs clash with the anthias because of agression, or with the idol?
I believe that the survival rates of the Idols have been increasing, but I keep finding contradicting information about their behavior. Aggressive, or not aggressive?


Suggestions if you disagree with proposed list? Thankyou

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by Dazed1

Here is the picture of the suspected killer

I don't trust crabs. Especially these which are known to take fish. But if it happened once, it will happen again.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by MineeMarine

So, I'm not entirely a beginner, it's more just being unsure about larger tanks... Which probably sounds odd, but anyways.

180 gallon DT, 6ftx2ftx2ft. 30 gallon sump, planning a separate refugium, but not running yet. High flow, SSB, 8 x 80 ATI fixture.

This is what I was thinking.. but I really am not sure what I want.


1 Mural Goby (already own)
1 Sailfin Tang (already own)
2 Gold Headed Sleeper Goby's (pair) Will likely starve to death, and in any case will deplete your sand bed of beneficial organisms. The bigger problem is that they create undesirable sand storms
1 Flame Hawk Terrific fish but will eat shrimp
5 Bartlett/Lyrtail/Squareblock/Dispair Anthias
1 or 2 Decora Dartfish (possibly a pair)
1 Bicolour or Midas Blenny
1 Regal Tang I am not a big supporter of this fish as it is the most prone to cryptocaryon irritans of any fish and it gets aggressive as it gets larger. It is also really, as an adult, too large for your tank.

And the massive what if...

1 Moorish Idol Ah, yes that. Try reading the moorish idol primer and deciding. A difficult call to make.

Is this stocking list too much for a 6x2x2 210 gallon reef? And do the Idols cause problems with corals? Would the tangs clash with the anthias because of agression, or with the idol?

The tangs are more likely to clash with each other
I believe that the survival rates of the Idols have been increasing, but I keep finding contradicting information about their behavior. Aggressive, or not aggressive?

I have never kept one, the primer is the best judge


Suggestions if you disagree with proposed list? Thankyou

It is always difficult to suggest as our tastes and budgets will never be the same. I do know that I would not keep more than one large fish in that sized tank as it makes the tank look small.

[MineeMarine]

Oh woah I'd never heard of Regal's becoming aggressive, I though they were one of the more docile types. But yes, I am very worried about ich, I would love a powderblue instead, but the aggression and ich is even worse in them. As an adult do you mean 14inches? I didn't think they would grow that large in captivity. Really, my sailfin would outgrow my tank also.

I had a flame hawk in the past who never touched a single invert and have heard of them being mostly fine, but occasionally do try to take on shrimp.


I've read that thread, and the powderblue version of it also, thanks though (:

I understand, but thanks anyway. Very helpful


Oh and yeah after I posted that I actuallly decided against the goldheaded goby's because I thought they would deplete the sand bed and also maybe starve (:

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by MineeMarine

Oh woah I'd never heard of Regal's becoming aggressive, I though they were one of the more docile types. But yes, I am very worried about ich,

Small regals are little to no problem, but they grow quickly and as they perceive their territory shrinking, can become aggressive.

I would love a powderblue instead, but the aggression and ich is even worse in them. As an adult do you mean 14inches? I didn't think they would grow that large in captivity. Really, my sailfin would outgrow my tank also.

Yes, despite myths to the contrary, if fed properly, tangs can get close to the natural adult size. And Hepatus tangs are one of the swimmers that really require a longer tank.

I had a flame hawk in the past who never touched a single invert and have heard of them being mostly fine, but occasionally do try to take on shrimp.

My personal experience is that they eat shrimp. However they have a great personality and coloration


I've read that thread, and the powderblue version of it also, thanks though (:

I understand, but thanks anyway. Very helpful

I wish I could always give you the answers you want to hear.


Oh and yeah after I posted that I actuallly decided against the goldheaded goby's because I thought they would deplete the sand bed and also maybe starve (:

If you keep corals, the sandstorm thing will make you crazy.

[MineeMarine]

No, honest answers are better than fake ones that are want I would best like to hear.


I think I may stay away from the regal, I've only ever had one as a juvi and is eventually died of ich. So I was wary of that experience again. I keep corals already, but I have heard that mural goby's make no where near as much of a sandstorm as goldheaded goby's.

A lot of research is a head of me on the Moorish Idol front though

[Dazed1]

Originally Posted by snorvich

I don't trust crabs. Especially these which are known to take fish. But if it happened once, it will happen again.

Yup. I had one peacefully for 2 years before. I know they are a hit & miss. This one is a miss and going back to the LFS over the weekend.

[Bigez]

I've been debating on pulling the firefish all together. They both get spooked too easy by movement outside of the tank. They've been like that since I got them, I figured they'd at least come out of their shell a bit after a few months, but it's been close to a year now and they're still skiddish. Which makes them virtually invisible when I want to look at the tank.

Ugh, at least corals don't run away when you try to look at them lol.

[zachoranje]

I have an 8 gallon biocube. It has black medium size sand and 15 pounds of lr with rubble rock in chamber 2. I'm going to get Kenya tree and green star polyp and then jist some zoas and palys and trumpets. I don't know what to to for fish? I was thinking maybe a clown goby and maybe an onyx clown? Not really sure. What would you revomend for fish?

[sneaton]

my sleeper goby eats prepared food....(great fish,and keeps the sand looking new)

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by zachoranje

I have an 8 gallon biocube. It has black medium size sand and 15 pounds of lr with rubble rock in chamber 2. I'm going to get Kenya tree and green star polyp and then jist some zoas and palys and trumpets. I don't know what to to for fish? I was thinking maybe a clown goby and maybe an onyx clown? Not really sure. What would you revomend for fish?

One fish, a clown goby would be good. This is a small tank

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by sneaton

my sleeper goby eats prepared food....(great fish,and keeps the sand looking new)

Sorry that is not a good idea. As I mentioned above it will deplete the sand bed of beneficial organisms.

[zachoranje]

Originally Posted by snorvich

One fish, a clown goby would be good. This is a small tank

yea, i know its small. the guy at my lfs said i should get 2 fish. and i was like ehhh. i dont know. so thats why i wanted to ask on here first. what are some other stay small fish that i could put in there in place of the goby?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by zachoranje

yea, i know its small. the guy at my lfs said i should get 2 fish. and i was like ehhh. i dont know. so thats why i wanted to ask on here first. what are some other stay small fish that i could put in there in place of the goby?

Well the LFS guy sells fish! Still if you get two small peaceful fish, you could probably get away with two. Clowns are not peaceful. If you have sand, you could do a shrimp/goby pair. Pretty interesting behavior.

[Dazed1]

Steve, I introduced an ORA B&W Misbar osc clown to my other orange misbar osc. The B&W is slightly bigger than the orange. at first there was a little bit of a fight between the two (expected), but now they seem to be getting along happily. Since the B&W is a little bigger, its swimming in more places of the tank than just hte right side. Which is making the orange one swim around too.

I have read that clowns do not get bothered by a lot of flow, but could it be that a mp10 on 100% in a 28g is too much for them?