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Unread 11/26/2012, 01:31 PM   #4451
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155 gallon tank 72x24x21, reef setup with 35g refugium. looking at the following:

In right now:
1x Yellow Watchman Goby
2x Ocellaris (juveniles)

Next:
1x Horseface Blenny
1x Tanaka Pygmy Wrasse
2x Banggai Cardinal (tank-bred)
3x McCosker's Flasher Wrasse (1M, 2F)

Long-term:
1xKole Tang
1xBlue Tang
1xCoral Beauty or Flame Angel

1+ year:
1x Green Mandarin
1x Copperband Butterfly

If this load is too high, I can drop the Kole Tang or Banggai's.


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Steve, Thanks for the quick reply.

If I were to remove the Yellow Tang and the Red Mandarin, would the tank still be over-crowded? My goal is for color to go along with the coral that I will add. However, I definitely do not want over-population that will lead to other issues.

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remove the yellow tang and you should be fine. The mandarin issue is to wait until the tank is sufficient mature to sustain adequate copepods.


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Unread 11/26/2012, 02:24 PM   #4453
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remove the yellow tang and you should be fine. The mandarin issue is to wait until the tank is sufficient mature to sustain adequate copepods.
Thanks again. Any recommendation on a replacement for the Blue/Green Chromis? I was planning on stocking them first.

Also, I will look at the mandarin after about a year to ensure the tank is mature enough.

This has been a big help. Thanks!


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Unread 11/26/2012, 02:32 PM   #4454
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Getting advice for my fathers 55g FOWLR tank. His current stock:

2 ocellaris clowns
Yellow Watchman Goby
Cherub Angel

Wants to add:
Bicolor blenny
Royal Gramma
Springeri Damsel
Christmas Wrasse.

Top of the tank is screened in. Any issues with his planned stock?


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Unread 11/26/2012, 02:38 PM   #4455
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Thanks again. Any recommendation on a replacement for the Blue/Green Chromis? I was planning on stocking them first.

Also, I will look at the mandarin after about a year to ensure the tank is mature enough.

This has been a big help. Thanks!
As those who follow this thread know, I do not do recommendations for a variety of reasons. I will be happy to reexamine any stocking list for compatibility, however.


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Unread 11/26/2012, 02:42 PM   #4456
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Getting advice for my fathers 55g FOWLR tank. His current stock:

2 ocellaris clowns
Yellow Watchman Goby
Cherub Angel

Wants to add:
Bicolor blenny
Royal Gramma
Springeri Damsel
Christmas Wrasse.

Top of the tank is screened in. Any issues with his planned stock?
those should be fine


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Unread 11/26/2012, 02:55 PM   #4457
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As those who follow this thread know, I do not do recommendations for a variety of reasons. I will be happy to reexamine any stocking list for compatibility, however.
Apologize, didn't realize that was off limits.

Do the Black Axil Chromis have the same issue as the Blue/Green Chromis right now with their health?

Also, there are no royal gramma's available. What about a Blue Gudgeon Goby as a replacement for the royal gramma?

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Unread 11/26/2012, 03:10 PM   #4458
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Hi, my 40g only have starry blenny and sixline wrasse and doing great and of course the blenny is the boss. Can I for now add a yellow watchman goby since the blenny hops on top of the rock and goby stays at the bottom? thanks
Yes, no problem. The sixline will limit choices going forward.

thanks, gotta find that's big enough


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Unread 11/26/2012, 03:34 PM   #4459
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those should be fine
Thanks!


I have a question about my own tank, a 75g with LPS and softies only.
Current stock:
2 BW Ocellaris
2 engineer gobies
Coral Beauty Angel
Midas Blenny

I would like to add a trio of flasher or fairy wrasses. I had thought about Mcoskers, but finding females has been tough. I may get a few juvenile Longfin fairy wrasses instead. That would be an okay sub, correct?

I have been researching the melanarus wrasse and would like to get one if it will be compatible with the fairy wrasse. Will they be compatible?

Last addition would be a Kole Tang.


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Apologize, didn't realize that was off limits.

Oh, it is not off limits. However, for sure our taste will differ and perhaps our budget, but the primary reason is that I want you to develop research skills. Various marine fish vendors have websites and they normally have useful descriptions of behaviors, tank size, feeding, etc. However, remember that they sell fish and hence there is somewhat ofr an inherent conflict of interests.

Do the Black Axil Chromis have the same issue as the Blue/Green Chromis right now with their health?

No, there is no reported issues with them

Also, there are no royal gramma's available. What about a Blue Gudgeon Goby as a replacement for the royal gramma?

sure, but very different behavioral pattern.

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Unread 11/26/2012, 06:07 PM   #4461
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Thanks!


I have a question about my own tank, a 75g with LPS and softies only.
Current stock:
2 BW Ocellaris
2 engineer gobies long term, you may find those problematical
Coral Beauty Angel
Midas Blenny

I would like to add a trio of flasher or fairy wrasses. I had thought about Mcoskers, but finding females has been tough. I may get a few juvenile Longfin fairy wrasses instead. That would be an okay sub, correct?

well, not really. The longfin are very aggressive. For either fairy or flasher wrasses you will need a top with 1/4 holes as they are prolific jumpers.

I have been researching the melanarus wrasse and would like to get one if it will be compatible with the fairy wrasse. Will they be compatible?

yes, but not reef safe to invertebrates and will need a minimum of 2 inches of sand, ideally more

Last addition would be a Kole Tang.
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Unread 11/26/2012, 07:26 PM   #4462
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245 Gallon mixed reef dominant SPS with some LPS. Let me know which ones are ok to have in pairs.

Tangs: Sailfin, Mimic LemonPeal Tang, Naso Tank and Mimic Ebli Tang

Foxface Rabbitfish
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse
Spotted Cardinarfish
2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Firefish Goby
1 Red Spotted Blenny
2 Orange Spot Diamond Goby
Cleaner shrimp

Any other suggestions would be welcome.


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Unread 11/26/2012, 07:36 PM   #4463
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Thanks!


I have a question about my own tank, a 75g with LPS and softies only.
Current stock:
2 BW Ocellaris
2 engineer gobies long term, you may find those problematical
Coral Beauty Angel
Midas Blenny

I would like to add a trio of flasher or fairy wrasses. I had thought about Mcoskers, but finding females has been tough. I may get a few juvenile Longfin fairy wrasses instead. That would be an okay sub, correct?

well, not really. The longfin are very aggressive. For either fairy or flasher wrasses you will need a top with 1/4 holes as they are prolific jumpers.

I have been researching the melanarus wrasse and would like to get one if it will be compatible with the fairy wrasse. Will they be compatible?

yes, but not reef safe to invertebrates and will need a minimum of 2 inches of sand, ideally more

Last addition would be a Kole Tang.
Thanks, I didnt know that about the longfin. I did some research, but was unsure. Would a linespot flasher wrasse or filamented wrasse be better temperment over the longfin?


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245 Gallon mixed reef dominant SPS with some LPS. Let me know which ones are ok to have in pairs.

Tangs: Sailfin, Mimic LemonPeal Tang, Naso Tank and Mimic Ebli Tang in my opinion your tank is not large enough for a Naso tang

Foxface Rabbitfish
McCosker's Flasher Wrasse pair or harem
Spotted Cardinarfish pair or harem
2 Ocellaris Clownfish
1 Firefish Goby M/F pair
1 Red Spotted Blenny
2 Orange Spot Diamond Goby only one
Cleaner shrimp any number

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My tank is 6'. For a Naso Tang are you saying you need 8'?


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35g long (36x12x18) mixed reef with a clam, SPS, LPS (all euphyllias or duncans), and a sarcophyton, have:

2 occellaris clowns
yellowline neon goby
tailspot blenny

I lost my blue-green chromis after a month (mysterious death), and I was wondering if a cherub or coral beauty would work with the above. I know that chromis are experiencing anomalous losses right now, and I suspect that mine was a victim of that.



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My tank is 6'. For a Naso Tang are you saying you need 8'?
That is correct. Or longer. Gallonage is far less important than length which for a 15 inch fish should be a minimum of 8 feet.


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35g long (36x12x18) mixed reef with a clam, SPS, LPS (all euphyllias or duncans), and a sarcophyton, have:

2 occellaris clowns
yellowline neon goby
tailspot blenny

I lost my blue-green chromis after a month (mysterious death), and I was wondering if a cherub or coral beauty would work with the above. I know that chromis are experiencing anomalous losses right now, and I suspect that mine was a victim of that.
Yes, there are problems with chromis coming in at the moment. A dwarf angel will not be reef safe.


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Unread 11/26/2012, 09:09 PM   #4469
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If not trolling, perhaps displaying ignorance.
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A dwarf angel will not be reef safe.
I have that coral beauty, which I knew was a "with caution" when I got it. So far I haven't seen any issues yet. Am I playing a waiting game till it does develop a taste for corals? Or is it a fish by fish basis?


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I have that coral beauty, which I knew was a "with caution" when I got it. So far I haven't seen any issues yet. Am I playing a waiting game till it does develop a taste for corals? Or is it a fish by fish basis?
I have seen them be model citizens until one day, they wake up and the world has changed. Roll of the dice, but your choice.


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Would like to get info on 2 type of blennies i would love to put in my tank.
The harptail blenny & the striped fang blenny which are both tank bred. Is it possible i can place 1 or more of them in my tank without any issues later down. both are about 1 1/2" long. They will be going in my 200gal+ reef tank.
The inhabitants that maybe same size or larger are:

5 Bartlet anthias
5 pajama cardinals
3 chromis
1 solon wrasse
1 yellow banded possum wrasse
1 royal gramma
1 algae blenny
1 purple firefish
1 hi fin red banded goby
1 geometric pygmy hawkfish

If not, will a potters or leopard wrasse be ok.

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Would like to get info on 2 type of blennies i would love to put in my tank.
The harptail blenny & the striped fang blenny which are both tank bred. Is it possible i can place 1 or more of them in my tank without any issues later down. both are about 1 1/2" long. They will be going in my 200gal+ reef tank.
The inhabitants that maybe same size or larger are:

5 Bartlet anthias
5 pajama cardinals
3 chromis
1 solon wrasse
1 yellow banded possum wrasse
1 royal gramma
1 algae blenny
1 purple firefish
1 hi fin red banded goby
1 geometric pygmy hawkfish

If not, will a potters or leopard wrasse be ok.

thanks
Generally, mixing blennies will not work out well. If you have fine sand, either leopard will work with the only possible negative reaction from C. solorensis which is one of the more aggressive fairy wrasses. Ideally a mature tank since they will hunt copepods as well as eating PE mysis.


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Generally, mixing blennies will not work out well. If you have fine sand, either leopard will work with the only possible negative reaction from C. solorensis which is one of the more aggressive fairy wrasses. Ideally a mature tank since they will hunt copepods as well as eating PE mysis.

Ok thanks, was very sceptical about the blennies from the beginning. My tank has been running very good for the last 15mths. I see another LFS store has the labouts fairy wrasse so i think i'll just get one of those. I'm more looking for small colorful fish that will add color to my reef tank. And also must not be aggresive.


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Hi Steve,

I've posted before in this thread, but have modified my stock list. This will be going in a 105G (48x24x21) tank with 36G sump/refugium; FOWLR at the beginning, moving to reef later. These are listed in order of introduction.

1. Diamond Watchman Goby (V. puellaris)
2. Pair of Percula Clownfish (A. percula)
3. Blue Chromis (C. cyaneus)
4. Orchid Dottyback (P. fridmani)
5. Sixline Wrasse (P. hexataenia) or Filamented Flasher Wrasse (P. filamentosus) -- can I get away with a Sixline with this stock list, or will it cause too many problems with the dottyback and goby?
6. Yellow Tang (Z. flaviscens)
7. Kole's Tang (C. strigosus)
8. Blue Throat Triggerfish (X. auromarginatus)
9. Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish (F. flavissimus) -- maybe, if bioload permits; not 100% sure on this one

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Hi Steve,

I've posted before in this thread, but have modified my stock list. This will be going in a 105G (48x24x21) tank with 36G sump/refugium; FOWLR at the beginning, moving to reef later. These are listed in order of introduction.

1. Diamond Watchman Goby (V. puellaris)
2. Pair of Percula Clownfish (A. percula)
3. Blue Chromis (C. cyaneus) chromis have been coming in unhealthy, avoid
4. Orchid Dottyback (P. fridmani)
5. Sixline Wrasse (P. hexataenia) or Filamented Flasher Wrasse (P. filamentosus) -- can I get away with a Sixline with this stock list, or will it cause too many problems with the dottyback and goby? I always suggest avoiding sixlines because it limits tank mates
6. Yellow Tang (Z. flaviscens)
7. Kole's Tang (C. strigosus) One tang in this sized tank, the Kole's is preferable as the yellow is aggressive and really needs a larger tank
8. Blue Throat Triggerfish (X. auromarginatus) I would not in this sized tank plus it will decimate clean up crew
9. Yellow Longnose Butterflyfish (F. flavissimus) -- maybe, if bioload permits; not 100% sure on this one

Appreciate your thoughts.



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