Let's Count the Broken RIOs - Page 18

thejuggernaut · 10/22/2006, 11:19 PM

common guys and girls, they sale rios at petco, enough said

melev · 10/22/2006, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by thejuggernaut
common guys and girls, they sale rios at petco, enough said

So to clarify, you're saying don't shop at Petco, right?

DrBegalke · 10/22/2006, 11:58 PM

Rios= 0 for 4 down
MiniJet= 1 for 1 down
MaxiJet= 1 for 3 down
Aquaclear= 1 for 1 down

thejuggernaut · 10/23/2006, 02:29 AM

im not saying that at all...I buy all my dog food at petco....I was in there to pick up some of those plastic legs for my coralife twin PC ballast for my 20 gallon tank the other day, and they wanted 12.99 for them. i told the woman checking me out that the price was outragous, so she sold them to me for 8.99. Petco is for normal people, not addicts like us.

Cody Ray · 10/23/2006, 03:36 AM

Had one explode

jiggly75 · 10/23/2006, 03:52 AM

2 rios lasted less than 2 months. One was only used for 24 hours every 2 weeks for stirring fresh salwater. WASTE OF MONEY

maddyfish · 10/23/2006, 06:28 AM

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Originally posted by The Grim Reefer
Melev,

Was that a UL listed Rio that smoked or the old style?

I kept my burned up RIO 600

The Grim Reefer · 10/23/2006, 09:17 AM

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Originally posted by maddyfish
I kept my burned up RIO 600

So was it a UL Listed version?

Reason I ask is the UL versions are supposd to have a thermal cut off. As long as you still have the pump you should contact Rio and see what they have to say about it.

corals b 4 bills · 10/23/2006, 09:24 AM

2- Rio 2500's
1- Rio 1100
1- Rio 800
0- Mag 18
0- Mag 12
Never having to deal with Rio again......Priceless.

chrisd1009 · 10/23/2006, 09:36 AM

I never had a Rio fail, but when I saw the amount of heat they add to the aquarium, I took it off line.

melev · 10/23/2006, 01:24 PM

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Originally posted by chrisd1009
I never had a Rio fail, but when I saw the amount of heat they add to the aquarium, I took it off line.

heat --- hmmm --- maybe we could liken that to a fuse?

Pico Keeper · 10/23/2006, 01:43 PM

A small RIO almost killed me and my entire tank. I was im my room one day watching TV, and I hear this crackling sound from my tank. I go over and notice nothing. Later I smell smoke, I look over and smoke is pouring from my tank... Like it was a FIRE!! I get to the tank, and the smoke is pouring from the Rio.

I go to touch it and it exploded. Literally, sparks and smoke went everywhere. And not little amounts, im talking about 4 ft of sparks and tons of smoke that clouded my room. Thank god the breaker went off and I didnt get electrocuted. Didnt loose any livestock either.

derekman · 10/23/2006, 01:59 PM

rios-3
other-1

Rio freakin electricuted me.

coralnut99 · 10/23/2006, 02:05 PM

The list just goes on, and on, and on, and..........

I was never able to get an answer from Taam, but has anybody else contacted them and gotten a response? I only last a couple (nuts, maybe three?) hundred in hardware, but if I'd gotten zapped like derekman, pico keeper, and lots of others, I'd be after somebody's hide.

Pico Keeper · 10/23/2006, 02:29 PM

I emailed them. Was completely ignored. My girlfriend works for a products liability lawfirm, I almost asked to write me a letter. As far as I'm concerned, RIO SUCKS!

They dont even have the balls to reply to my emails for help with customer service. I'm a maxijet user now, no problems yet. Plus I added a prop and shroud to mine and let me tell you, those modded maxis move some SERIOUS water! I had to get a smaller prop, since the first time I turned them on, they turned my tank into a whirlpool of sand and fish.. I had instant xenia frags for everyone!

jarhed · 10/23/2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Pico Keeper
the first time I turned them on, they turned my tank into a whirlpool of sand and fish.. I had instant xenia frags for everyone!

jarhed · 10/23/2006, 02:40 PM

If I had a dime for every person in a LFS that I whispered to in an attempt to keep them from electrocuting themselves by buying a Rio, I'd be a millionaire. Seriously, every time I go into the store near where I live, I find myself trying to talk someone out of buying a dangerous product like a Rio after the owner spent 10 minutes trying to get them to spend real money on that piece of crap.

the3kgt2 · 10/23/2006, 02:52 PM

I just bought a rio +1400UL for my sump. Does the UL rating mean it's safe?

coralnut99 · 10/23/2006, 03:01 PM

I wouldn't buy one if it had the Pope's stamp of approval.

Chrismo · 10/23/2006, 05:07 PM

3 Rios, never a problem.
2 Hagen aquaclears, needed new prop after 6 years.
1 Tunze - Sometimes has trouble starting up
2 Maxijets - Flawless!

Most people without problems are not going to post. If you make a thread called Broken Tunzes, you'll get lots of complaining about them too. (Though I do still think Tunzes are well made)

Chris

coralnut99 · 10/23/2006, 08:01 PM

Start a thread about peoples experiences with Maxijets going up in smoke, or even not re-starting, and I bet you won't have 18 pages in that thread and others.

Anemonebuff · 10/23/2006, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by tyesmithND
It might just be me but i am starting to see a patern.

Anyone out there is the LFS or retail world have any clue why so many companies use them.

Put another way: Why supply your product with a pump (a very important piece) that is known to break? Reputation is important so i guess the money must be good

Most people do not know their rep, so the money keeps flowing.

jarhed · 10/23/2006, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chrismo
3 Rios, never a problem.
2 Hagen aquaclears, needed new prop after 6 years.
1 Tunze - Sometimes has trouble starting up
2 Maxijets - Flawless!

Most people without problems are not going to post. If you make a thread called Broken Tunzes, you'll get lots of complaining about them too. (Though I do still think Tunzes are well made)

Chris

Lets face it though, Tunzes generally dont EXPLODE or leak OIL or ELECTROCUTE people. Yeah, pumps die, but for the love of God, ELECTROCUTION? SPEWING OIL? Seriously, Rio's are in a completely different league of manure.

The Grim Reefer · 10/23/2006, 10:10 PM

I've cut a couple of rios in half to check, there is no oil in them. Any product that goes in water that includes a power cord has the potential to shock you. I am more concerned with the failures with the split cases. If the coil melts down you just put copper (and who knows what else) in the tank, not good.

jarhed · 10/23/2006, 11:20 PM

I agree Grim, but I personally have never heard of any stories of other brands splitting open like the many MANY Rio stories. Have you?

The frequency of these stories about Rio's is enough to steer me clear of that garbage for as long as I am involved in this hobby.

10/22/2006, 11:58 PM	#428
DrBegalke Go Buckeyes! Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Phoenix area, AZ Posts: 2,599	Rios= 0 for 4 down MiniJet= 1 for 1 down MaxiJet= 1 for 3 down Aquaclear= 1 for 1 down __________________ ~Jason Begalke Current Tank Info: Latest project: JBJ Cubey

10/23/2006, 03:36 AM	#430
Cody Ray Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 5,101	Had one explode __________________ Limit 1 stupid question per day Current Tank Info: Mr. Aqua 7.5g bowfront

10/23/2006, 09:24 AM	#434
corals b 4 bills Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: San Francisco Bay Area (Belmont). Posts: 2,381	2- Rio 2500's 1- Rio 1100 1- Rio 800 0- Mag 18 0- Mag 12 Never having to deal with Rio again......Priceless. __________________ Reefkeeper - (ref-ke-per) n: Individual obsessed with placing disturbing amounts of electricity and seawater in close proximity for the purpose of maintaining live coral reef organisms. Current Tank Info: 29 gallon Bio Cube, HQI 150 watt Nanotuner~Vortech MP10W ES~Arctica Chiller~AC II~Tunze Osmolator ATO~ Tunze 9002 skimmer W/In Tank Cup~ Korallin Reactor W/PH Monitor~ Korallin Denitrator~APC Back-up~Phosban/Carbon Reactor.

10/23/2006, 09:36 AM	#435
chrisd1009 Lurker Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 226	I never had a Rio fail, but when I saw the amount of heat they add to the aquarium, I took it off line. __________________ But my water parameters are perfect? The best customer service is the one you don't need. Current Tank Info: planning phase

10/23/2006, 01:59 PM	#438
derekman Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 245	rios-3 other-1 Rio freakin electricuted me. __________________ Derek Current Tank Info: 82 total gallons reef, 390w PC 150 MH, LPS SPS

10/22/2006, 11:19 PM	#426
thejuggernaut Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Jackson, Tx Posts: 548	common guys and girls, they sale rios at petco, enough said

10/23/2006, 02:29 AM	#429
thejuggernaut Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Lake Jackson, Tx Posts: 548	im not saying that at all...I buy all my dog food at petco....I was in there to pick up some of those plastic legs for my coralife twin PC ballast for my 20 gallon tank the other day, and they wanted 12.99 for them. i told the woman checking me out that the price was outragous, so she sold them to me for 8.99. Petco is for normal people, not addicts like us.

10/23/2006, 03:52 AM	#431
jiggly75 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: ohio Posts: 187	2 rios lasted less than 2 months. One was only used for 24 hours every 2 weeks for stirring fresh salwater. WASTE OF MONEY

10/23/2006, 01:43 PM	#437
Pico Keeper Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 437	A small RIO almost killed me and my entire tank. I was im my room one day watching TV, and I hear this crackling sound from my tank. I go over and notice nothing. Later I smell smoke, I look over and smoke is pouring from my tank... Like it was a FIRE!! I get to the tank, and the smoke is pouring from the Rio. I go to touch it and it exploded. Literally, sparks and smoke went everywhere. And not little amounts, im talking about 4 ft of sparks and tons of smoke that clouded my room. Thank god the breaker went off and I didnt get electrocuted. Didnt loose any livestock either.

10/23/2006, 02:05 PM	#439
coralnut99 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bushkill, PA Posts: 3,632	The list just goes on, and on, and on, and.......... I was never able to get an answer from Taam, but has anybody else contacted them and gotten a response? I only last a couple (nuts, maybe three?) hundred in hardware, but if I'd gotten zapped like derekman, pico keeper, and lots of others, I'd be after somebody's hide. __________________ Why can't my wife see this stuff as an investment? Current Tank Info: way too much to list, and still adding more!

10/23/2006, 02:29 PM	#440
Pico Keeper Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 437	I emailed them. Was completely ignored. My girlfriend works for a products liability lawfirm, I almost asked to write me a letter. As far as I'm concerned, RIO SUCKS! They dont even have the balls to reply to my emails for help with customer service. I'm a maxijet user now, no problems yet. Plus I added a prop and shroud to mine and let me tell you, those modded maxis move some SERIOUS water! I had to get a smaller prop, since the first time I turned them on, they turned my tank into a whirlpool of sand and fish.. I had instant xenia frags for everyone!

10/23/2006, 02:40 PM	#442
jarhed Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,638	If I had a dime for every person in a LFS that I whispered to in an attempt to keep them from electrocuting themselves by buying a Rio, I'd be a millionaire. Seriously, every time I go into the store near where I live, I find myself trying to talk someone out of buying a dangerous product like a Rio after the owner spent 10 minutes trying to get them to spend real money on that piece of crap.

10/23/2006, 02:52 PM	#443
the3kgt2 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 103	I just bought a rio +1400UL for my sump. Does the UL rating mean it's safe?

10/23/2006, 03:01 PM	#444
coralnut99 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bushkill, PA Posts: 3,632	I wouldn't buy one if it had the Pope's stamp of approval. __________________ Why can't my wife see this stuff as an investment? Current Tank Info: way too much to list, and still adding more!

10/23/2006, 05:07 PM	#445
Chrismo Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 416	3 Rios, never a problem. 2 Hagen aquaclears, needed new prop after 6 years. 1 Tunze - Sometimes has trouble starting up 2 Maxijets - Flawless! Most people without problems are not going to post. If you make a thread called Broken Tunzes, you'll get lots of complaining about them too. (Though I do still think Tunzes are well made) Chris __________________ Just mind your water and your fish will mind themselves. Current Tank Info: 157g

10/23/2006, 08:01 PM	#446
coralnut99 Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Bushkill, PA Posts: 3,632	Start a thread about peoples experiences with Maxijets going up in smoke, or even not re-starting, and I bet you won't have 18 pages in that thread and others. __________________ Why can't my wife see this stuff as an investment? Current Tank Info: way too much to list, and still adding more!

10/23/2006, 10:10 PM	#449
The Grim Reefer Ready for some NOBALL!!! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Kingman Az Posts: 25,259	I've cut a couple of rios in half to check, there is no oil in them. Any product that goes in water that includes a power cord has the potential to shock you. I am more concerned with the failures with the split cases. If the coil melts down you just put copper (and who knows what else) in the tank, not good. __________________ America, the way it outta be! Current Tank Info: 120 Starphire with Illudium Q-288 Photon Regurgitator DIY LED lighting

10/23/2006, 11:20 PM	#450
jarhed Premium Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 1,638	I agree Grim, but I personally have never heard of any stories of other brands splitting open like the many MANY Rio stories. Have you? The frequency of these stories about Rio's is enough to steer me clear of that garbage for as long as I am involved in this hobby.