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Unread 03/01/2013, 07:20 PM   #426
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What are the dimensions of a 92gal, and what percentage of it's max flow should it be putting out at 15v?


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Unread 03/01/2013, 07:26 PM   #427
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I got my second variable power supply so I just put my second WP40 in my 5 yo 92g corner tank. The detritus that got stirred up clouded my tank for a good 2 hours. Everything in the tank is moving or bouncing up and down. Both variable power supplies are set at 15V. One is running in W1 mode and the other one is in ELSE mode.
Can you shoot a little video for us?


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Unread 03/01/2013, 07:33 PM   #428
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My tank is 34x34x48 and 22" deep. Corner tank presents a whole new challenge not only for lighting but also with flow. The back corner is the hardest part to get any kind of water movement as most power heads are placed on each side near the front. The WP40 allows the pump to point in any direction or 360 degree. I was able to point one directly to the lower back of the tank and that was why all those detritus got stirred up.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 07:55 PM   #429
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My tank is 34x34x48 and 22" deep. Corner tank presents a whole new challenge not only for lighting but also with flow. The back corner is the hardest part to get any kind of water movement as most power heads are placed on each side near the front. The WP40 allows the pump to point in any direction or 360 degree. I was able to point one directly to the lower back of the tank and that was why all those detritus got stirred up.
I love the 360 degree tilting. Played around with it while unboxing. Very cool

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Unread 03/01/2013, 08:02 PM   #430
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Well I think if you can get away with 2 in a tank of those dimensions my 75 will be fine. I think I'll put one where my mp40 is blowing along the back wall, and put the other on the opposite side blowing across the front. Hopefully the tank doesn't turn into a tornado. Haha


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Unread 03/01/2013, 08:20 PM   #431
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Here is a short video of my 92g corner tank with two WP40s running at 24V. The one on left is in W1 mode and the one on right is in ELSE mode. I have not adjusted the control knobs to get maximum waves. I know I can easily get 2" waves in no time if I just play with the knobs a little.



The second video is running both pumps at 15V and also interrupted with time out from my RKE controller. This combination allows much gentler and random flow as there are times both pumps are completely off and there are times both pumps are on but with different flow pattern. I think between the 6 different modes, variable power supply and my RKE controller controlling length of time each pump is on, I can practically have unlimited flow patterns!



You can run both videos at the same time to see the difference.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 08:53 PM   #432
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Well that pretty much sells it for me. At full tilt your LPS and softies don't seem to be struggling too much. As soon as I get the goo ahead from the wife (which shouldn't be too hard considering I'll make a profit off the deal) I'm going to order a couple.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 09:15 PM   #433
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Thanks Simon. Going to order mine this weekend.

Edit: Just ordered.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 09:20 PM   #434
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Thanks Simon. Going to order mine this weekend.

Edit: Just ordered.
weekend came early for you


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Unread 03/01/2013, 09:26 PM   #435
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Sure did. Now which converter are you using?


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Unread 03/01/2013, 09:35 PM   #436
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Thanks Simon. Going to order mine this weekend.

Edit: Just ordered.
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Sure did. Now which converter are you using?
Go to page 14 of this thread to see the one that I am using.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 09:35 PM   #437
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Thanks.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 09:56 PM   #438
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WHAAAAAT! Sorry.

I just took out my two Vortech MP-40's and installed one of my two WP-40's on my 125 gallon 6ft tank. The one WP-40 is dead silent, and is making a wave that 2 MP-40's had trouble doing without making enough noise to hear across the room. My GSP on the other end of the tank is waving around like if I had a MP-40 installed next to it. This is unbelievable!

I'll take a video of it tomorrow, but it is exactly like how Simon's tank is... no joke. The 2nd pump will be the pump I try to get working with an Apex. I'm very impressed, and my MP-40's are going to be up for sale tomorrow.

The power supply I got from inside computer (90 volt) also goes down to 12v. It is probably the best option for speed control for these at $15 shipped, without using a controller.

Wow, Wow, WOW!


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Unread 03/01/2013, 10:00 PM   #439
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I bet you can sell those 2 Vortech MP40 for $700 easily!


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Unread 03/01/2013, 10:00 PM   #440
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So now you understand what Tunze users have known for a long time. The next mod should be a wider flow, and I bet there are people here who can do it.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 10:13 PM   #441
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So now you understand what Tunze users have known for a long time. The next mod should be a wider flow, and I bet there are people here who can do it.
I wish I knew earlier. This thing is as strong as the Tunze higher models for 1/3rd of the price, and absolutely stronger than a single MP-40 without question. I almost don't want to hook it up to the Apex for fear of possibly losing the wave modes. Good thing I have an extra one to play with.

I set my power supply down to 12v, and one pump is perfect for night mode on a 6ft 125 gallon tank. I didn't even hook up the resistor to automatically do it. No need, plus the controller is going inside my stand anyway.

If I get it working with my Apex tomorrow, I will post a tutorial. You'll need a spare CAT5e ethernet cable, a 0-10v converter, and beginner soldering skills.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 11:04 PM   #442
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So... for a 4x2 120g.... would one of these be good, or 2? From what I heard earlier, 2 would be brutal. If I pick these up, I want to buy one, or two, and that fulfill ALL my powerhead needs. I want as little as possible inside my tank equip wise.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 11:08 PM   #443
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So... for a 4x2 120g.... would one of these be good, or 2? From what I heard earlier, 2 would be brutal. If I pick these up, I want to buy one, or two, and that fulfill ALL my powerhead needs. I want as little as possible inside my tank equip wise.
Just one of these creates a big wave at full power in my 6ft 125. I can't see more than 1 being used in a 48" tank without cutting the power with a universal voltage power supply.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 11:11 PM   #444
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I'm hoping by the time I finish cycling, the WP25 will be out. So I can compare the 2. I wont really need a powerhead for another month or so. Just about to order my dry rock and sand next week.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 11:14 PM   #445
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Just one of these creates a big wave at full power in my 6ft 125. I can't see more than 1 being used in a 48" tank without cutting the power with a universal voltage power supply.
What if you don't use the wave mode? As I said earlier, I have an MP40 on my 75gal and it's not enough by itself. The WP40 seems to be about equivalent right?


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Unread 03/01/2013, 11:16 PM   #446
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I wish I knew earlier. This thing is as strong as the Tunze higher models for 1/3rd of the price, and absolutely stronger than a single MP-40 without question. I almost don't want to hook it up to the Apex for fear of possibly losing the wave modes. Good thing I have an extra one to play with.

I set my power supply down to 12v, and one pump is perfect for night mode on a 6ft 125 gallon tank. I didn't even hook up the resistor to automatically do it. No need, plus the controller is going inside my stand anyway.

If I get it working with my Apex tomorrow, I will post a tutorial. You'll need a spare CAT5e ethernet cable, a 0-10v converter, and beginner soldering skills.
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Just one of these creates a big wave at full power in my 6ft 125. I can't see more than 1 being used in a 48" tank without cutting the power with a universal voltage power supply.

+1
I'm putting together a 120g as well and just hoping 1 WP40 wont be too much for the tank.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 11:24 PM   #447
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From what I've seen on here, people are comparing two MP40's to the equivalent of ONE WP40 and the WP40 making even better waves than 2 MP40's.


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Unread 03/01/2013, 11:38 PM   #448
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I've been looking for some inexpensive dc powerheads to replace my koralias...hopefully they will introduce 2nd generation modifications (namely adjustable flow rates and wide flow pattern) into the wp 25. I may be overly optimistic about these changes happening, but this option would make my wife a lot happier than me buying a pair of tunze 6095s.


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Unread 03/02/2013, 12:32 AM   #449
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From what I've seen on here, people are comparing two MP40's to the equivalent of ONE WP40 and the WP40 making even better waves than 2 MP40's.
If i get enough time to do so, ill take a vid of 1 of my MP40s on NTM or short pulse mode at 100%, and one of the WP-40. The wp-40 is stronger by far, and much quieter.

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Unread 03/02/2013, 12:39 AM   #450
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I like that I'm getting back into the hobby NOW. 5 years ago when I was building a 90 you didn't have the chance to get cheap LED systems or powerheads like these.

Maybe a few years down the road this hobby will start to be manageable to newcomers who want more than a nano.


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