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Unread 07/02/2011, 10:48 AM   #4476
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75g tank w 20g sump and refugium built into sump.

Current livestock: rabbit, maroon gold band clown, mccoskeri wrasse. Blue chromi, mated pair of lyretail anthias, two neon damsels, a yellow watchman goby w pistol shrimp, and a diamond goby.
>> >> >> >> Corals are purple and red mushroom, eagle eye and yellow and Orange zoas, pulsing xenias, big anthilias colony, raspberry chalice, softball sized frogspawn, and a green colt.

Can I add:
Chevron Tang
Juvenile Imperator Angel
Maxima clam
Blue Tang
Dusky Wrasse

I don't necessarily want to add them all but what can I add in addition to what I already have?

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Steve, I introduced an ORA B&W Misbar osc clown to my other orange misbar osc. The B&W is slightly bigger than the orange. at first there was a little bit of a fight between the two (expected), but now they seem to be getting along happily. Since the B&W is a little bigger, its swimming in more places of the tank than just hte right side. Which is making the orange one swim around too.

I have read that clowns do not get bothered by a lot of flow, but could it be that a mp10 on 100% in a 28g is too much for them?
It is quite possible. You can check if a slight reduction will make them happier. But it sounds as if all is well. Normally getting a larger clown is more risky.


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75g tank w 20g sump and refugium built into sump.

Current livestock: rabbit, maroon gold band clown, mccoskeri wrasse. Blue chromi, mated pair of lyretail anthias, two neon damsels, a yellow watchman goby w pistol shrimp, and a diamond goby.
>> >> >> >> Corals are purple and red mushroom, eagle eye and yellow and Orange zoas, pulsing xenias, big anthilias colony, raspberry chalice, softball sized frogspawn, and a green colt.

Can I add:
Chevron Tang Maybe. The rabbit fish may object but likely not
Juvenile Imperator Angel No. Never add a fish to your tank that you cannot sustain long term
Maxima clam Maybe. What lights?
Blue Tang No. We recommend a 240 gallon tank for a hepatus tang.
Dusky Wrasse May be an issue with existing wrasse. I have never kept this particular fish, however.

I don't necessarily want to add them all but what can I add in addition to what I already have?

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Unread 07/02/2011, 11:39 AM   #4479
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Steve, I introduced an ORA B&W Misbar osc clown to my other orange misbar osc. The B&W is slightly bigger than the orange. at first there was a little bit of a fight between the two (expected), but now they seem to be getting along happily. Since the B&W is a little bigger, its swimming in more places of the tank than just hte right side. Which is making the orange one swim around too.

I have read that clowns do not get bothered by a lot of flow, but could it be that a mp10 on 100% in a 28g is too much for them?
What mode is the 10 on?? In my 40 breeder I have a mated pair of Percs, I have 2 MP 10's (( reef crest )) that is at about 80%, they don't seem to have any issue with that at all.


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It is quite possible. You can check if a slight reduction will make them happier. But it sounds as if all is well. Normally getting a larger clown is more risky.
I thought it was the other way around. either ways, I tried to get the smallest clown possible. Now they roam around together. I guess I got lucky!


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What mode is the 10 on?? In my 40 breeder I have a mated pair of Percs, I have 2 MP 10's (( reef crest )) that is at about 80%, they don't seem to have any issue with that at all.

Its on reef crest, 100%. Its possible that the placement is a little off. I don't have too much rock just yet, am the aquascaping can make a difference, right?


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Unread 07/02/2011, 06:43 PM   #4481
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what about a lemonpeel angelfish, Kole Yellow Eye Tang, Bicolor Angelfish or Flame Angelfish

is it possible to add a Debelius' Reef Lobster or shrimp with what I currently have?

here's the list again just in case:
Current livestock: rabbit, maroon gold band clown, mccoskeri wrasse. Blue chromi, mated pair of lyretail anthias, two neon damsels, a yellow watchman goby w pistol shrimp, and a diamond goby.
>> >> >> >> Corals are purple and red mushroom, eagle eye and yellow and Orange zoas, pulsing xenias, big anthilias colony, raspberry chalice, softball sized frogspawn, and a green colt.

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Unread 07/02/2011, 08:59 PM   #4482
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i have just bought a 140 gallon tank with stand 55 gallon refugium no skimmer need a recommendation on that i got about 30 lb of live rock and about 30 lbs of base rock with some anemones on the rocks i got a conch, clown fish, dansels in a 55 gallon that i am going to put in the 140 gallon tank i would like to know what kind of fish i can put in the 140 what kind of skimmer i would need do i need a deep sand bed or shallow and do i need anyother type of filter


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what about a lemonpeel angelfish, Kole Yellow Eye Tang, Bicolor Angelfish or Flame Angelfish

is it possible to add a Debelius' Reef Lobster or shrimp with what I currently have?

here's the list again just in case:
Current livestock: rabbit, maroon gold band clown, mccoskeri wrasse. Blue chromi, mated pair of lyretail anthias, two neon damsels, a yellow watchman goby w pistol shrimp, and a diamond goby.
>> >> >> >> Corals are purple and red mushroom, eagle eye and yellow and Orange zoas, pulsing xenias, big anthilias colony, raspberry chalice, softball sized frogspawn, and a green colt.

THANK YOU!!!!
Dwarf angels are not "reef safe". Lobsters are not a good idea. If you like that kind of thing look at alpheus soror pistol shrimp Your Kole tang should be fine.


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i have just bought a 140 gallon tank with stand 55 gallon refugium no skimmer need a recommendation on that i got about 30 lb of live rock and about 30 lbs of base rock with some anemones on the rocks i got a conch, clown fish, dansels in a 55 gallon that i am going to put in the 140 gallon tank i would like to know what kind of fish i can put in the 140 what kind of skimmer i would need do i need a deep sand bed or shallow and do i need anyother type of filter
Welcome to reef central!! This thread is about fish so if you come up with prospective inhabitants we can give you pros and cons. For general questions create a thread in New to The Hobby and you will get lots of help.


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Unread 07/03/2011, 08:07 AM   #4485
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Well the LFS guy sells fish! Still if you get two small peaceful fish, you could probably get away with two. Clowns are not peaceful. If you have sand, you could do a shrimp/goby pair. Pretty interesting behavior.
I have ls but not enough open save for any fish that needs it. what are some other cool fish that i could put in my 8 gallon that stay small?


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I have ls but not enough open save for any fish that needs it. what are some other cool fish that i could put in my 8 gallon that stay small?
Well, if it were me, I would strongly consider Yellow Banded Possum Wrasse (Wetmorella nigropinnata) which is one of my all time favorite fish. Of course your problem is that there are very, very few fish that can be maintained long term in an 8 gallon tank.


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Unread 07/03/2011, 02:27 PM   #4487
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Hi everyone I just started my first saltwater tank(currently cycling)
Its a 45 gallon w/ 50 pounds live rock and 40 pounds live sand.
I have a marineland magnum 350 filter w/ biowheel and 2 powerheads.
My lighting is a 4 bulb t-5ho setup, 2 actincs, 2 white.
Im still debating on a skimmer, I will be doing weekly water changes

My stocking plans are
1 false black perc clownfish
1 wheelers shrimp goby
1 randali pisotol shrimp
1 royal gramma
1 or 2 carpenter's flasher wrasse
and 1 mandarin(about a year after tank is established with pods)

4 nassarius snails
10 turbo snails
2 hermits

Coral eventually but I haven't done enough research to decide what kinds yet.


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Hi everyone I just started my first saltwater tank(currently cycling)
Its a 45 gallon w/ 50 pounds live rock and 40 pounds live sand.
I have a marineland magnum 350 filter w/ biowheel and 2 powerheads.
My lighting is a 4 bulb t-5ho setup, 2 actincs, 2 white.
Im still debating on a skimmer, I will be doing weekly water changes

My stocking plans are
1 false black perc clownfish
1 wheelers shrimp goby
1 randali pisotol shrimp
1 royal gramma
1 or 2 carpenter's flasher wrasse
and 1 mandarin(about a year after tank is established with pods)

4 nassarius snails
10 turbo snails
2 hermits

Coral eventually but I haven't done enough research to decide what kinds yet.
Looks good to me; however I don't recommend hermits, consider additional snails.


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Ooops! And Welcome to Reef Central!!!!


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Thanks for the warm welcome,
I was also considering a bristle star would this be a problem with any of the other fish planned?


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I was also considering a bristle star would this be a problem with any of the other fish planned?
Well, we are glad you are here! Brittle stars can be predatory, if you wish that kind of animal, look at serpent stars.


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Hey guys. So to start off I have a 33 gallon glass cube. With a 50 gallon filter and im going to pick up 40lbs of LR in the next few weeks at my aquarium store after they finish curing it and I have 25lbs of live sand.

First question I have is should i get two 425gph powerheads? I do plan on getting one at least.

Second question I only plan on keeping soft corals as I have read they are easy to take care of and are for newer people like myself. I also plan on not having a lot of fish maybe only 4-6. mainly want a reef. So after saying all that my question is do I need anything else other then my current set up to have all this?

The guys down at my aquarium store said I should be fine just running fish and mostly soft corals that dont need to much light. I do have the same lighting that they are running on there corals on my tank. dont know the statistics of it off the top of my head.

On a side note I do want to sump my tank but I do not have the money at the moment after buying my tank and all the LR. In due time.

I will probably have more questions to add later Please help me out and give me any advice you think I need.


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Hi Steve,

I posted several months back with a list of prospective fish for my 150 gallon reef with 29 gallon sump with refugium.

The tank is coming along well - I've been gradually introducing my CUC (I'd prefer to take my time rather than dumping in the "recommended" amount of snails and having them die off after eating all the algae). I'm still a ways off from adding any fish, but I did have a couple of planning questions.

One of the things on my "I really want this" list is a mated pair of green mandarins. Based on your previous answer, it sounds like my tank will be capable of supporting the mandarins once established. I have two questions:

1) What, precisely, constitutes "well established" in this case? I plan to have the tank up and running for six months before adding the mandarins, but is there anything else I need to be looking for? Right now, to my (admittedly untrained) eye, it looks like my pod population is booming. The glass on all sides is covered with pods (I'd say around 20 per square inch), and I can see microfauna on the sand bed and the live rock, as well as swimming in the water column.

2) Some of my other planned additions include a shrimp/goby pair. Do you foresee compatibility problems with the mandarins?

I'm shooting for a peaceful tank that incorporates animals with interesting, active behavior. I know that you hesitate to suggest specific fish since tastes and budgets vary, but I'd love to hear any recommendations you might have for fish that you personally find interesting in a reef environment.

Thanks as always for your time, information and expertise!


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Hey guys. So to start off I have a 33 gallon glass cube. With a 50 gallon filter and im going to pick up 40lbs of LR in the next few weeks at my aquarium store after they finish curing it and I have 25lbs of live sand.

First question I have is should i get two 425gph powerheads? I do plan on getting one at least.

Second question I only plan on keeping soft corals as I have read they are easy to take care of and are for newer people like myself. I also plan on not having a lot of fish maybe only 4-6. mainly want a reef. So after saying all that my question is do I need anything else other then my current set up to have all this?

The guys down at my aquarium store said I should be fine just running fish and mostly soft corals that dont need to much light. I do have the same lighting that they are running on there corals on my tank. dont know the statistics of it off the top of my head.

On a side note I do want to sump my tank but I do not have the money at the moment after buying my tank and all the LR. In due time.

I will probably have more questions to add later Please help me out and give me any advice you think I need.
This thread is about fish and fish selection. It would be best if you ask questions about tank configuration as a separate question in the New to the Hobby Forum by starting your own thread.


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Hi Steve,

I posted several months back with a list of prospective fish for my 150 gallon reef with 29 gallon sump with refugium.

The tank is coming along well - I've been gradually introducing my CUC (I'd prefer to take my time rather than dumping in the "recommended" amount of snails and having them die off after eating all the algae). I'm still a ways off from adding any fish, but I did have a couple of planning questions.

Going slowly is always a good thing in this hobby.

One of the things on my "I really want this" list is a mated pair of green mandarins. Based on your previous answer, it sounds like my tank will be capable of supporting the mandarins once established. I have two questions:

1) What, precisely, constitutes "well established" in this case? I plan to have the tank up and running for six months before adding the mandarins, but is there anything else I need to be looking for? Right now, to my (admittedly untrained) eye, it looks like my pod population is booming. The glass on all sides is covered with pods (I'd say around 20 per square inch), and I can see microfauna on the sand bed and the live rock, as well as swimming in the water column.

Well established in the case of mandarins is having more copepods being produced than are being consumed. Not putting other copepod consumers in the tank will help. Generally, your sized tank with live rock would need about six months to be on the ultra safe side. Of course if you have a producing refugium, that also helps.

2) Some of my other planned additions include a shrimp/goby pair. Do you foresee compatibility problems with the mandarins?

None whatsoever. There should be no interaction at all.

I'm shooting for a peaceful tank that incorporates animals with interesting, active behavior. I know that you hesitate to suggest specific fish since tastes and budgets vary, but I'd love to hear any recommendations you might have for fish that you personally find interesting in a reef environment.

I LOVE cryptic fish that are not out all the time but move within the rock work. So for me a possum wrasse is fascinating. If you are NOT having shrimp, a flame hawkfish is interesting but it WILL eat shrimp. On the peaceful, interesting, but skittish side, I would try to get a mated pair of firefish. I also like various dartfish. Dwarf angels are interesting but they are not reef safe, primarily towards meaty LPS corals. If you have specific fish in mind, I can more easily give pros and cons. I would also need to know what corals you are planning.

Thanks as always for your time, information and expertise!



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Hi, I have a 23 gallon tank which has been running for a few months now, it currently houses three hermits, a few stomatella snails and various hitch-hikers and a handful of frags. I have been working on a stocking list and have these at the moment which I thought about adding to the tank one by one.

One Wetmorella tanakai, two Gobiodon okinawae and one Elacatinus oceanops

I want to keep this tank a peaceful tank with small fish that won't grow out the tank, although I plan on upgrading not too far into the future, but probably not until next year at least.

I also want to add some shrimp, I was thinking about three different Lysmata shrimps. One Peppermint, one cleaner and a fire shrimp.

Could this work out or is there something unwise about the stocking list?

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Hi, I have a 23 gallon tank which has been running for a few months now, it currently houses three hermits, a few stomatella snails and various hitch-hikers and a handful of frags. I have been working on a stocking list and have these at the moment which I thought about adding to the tank one by one.

One Wetmorella tanakai, two Gobiodon okinawae and one Elacatinus oceanops

I want to keep this tank a peaceful tank with small fish that won't grow out the tank, although I plan on upgrading not too far into the future, but probably not until next year at least.

I also want to add some shrimp, I was thinking about three different Lysmata shrimps. One Peppermint, one cleaner and a fire shrimp.

Could this work out or is there something unwise about the stocking list?

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I think your stocking list is excellent. My only minor suggestion is that I dislike hermit crabs and would add additional snails in lieu of them.


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Steve, What are your thoughts on a Two Spot Bimaculatus Blenny? are they peaceful?

Tank: 28g cube.
About 25-30lbs of LR. Lots of hiding spaces.
Others in the tank: 2 osc clownfish

Do these do ok in pairs or will fight? (have heard conflicting reports).


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Steve, What are your thoughts on a Two Spot Bimaculatus Blenny? are they peaceful?

Tank: 28g cube.
About 25-30lbs of LR. Lots of hiding spaces.
Others in the tank: 2 osc clownfish

Do these do ok in pairs or will fight? (have heard conflicting reports).
According to Liveaquaria:

The Two Spot Bimaculatus Blenny originates within the reefs surrounding Cebu. They are a small blenny with very large eyes, and small mouth giving these fish a very comical look. A black band covers the top half of the eyes and body aiding them in blending into their surroundings. They receive their name from the two prominent black spots on their stomach area. The Two Spot Bimaculatus Blennies are a great addition to any reef or peaceful fish only aquarium, large or small.

Generally found amid crevices and rocks on the bottom of its environment, the Two Spot Bimaculatus Blenny needs a tank of at least 10 gallons with plenty of live rock for grazing and hiding. They should not be housed with aggressive species that may intimidate these fish into hiding. They are generally peaceful towards con specifics and may be added to the aquarium in numbers at the same time

The diet of the Two Spot Bimaculatus Blenny should include vegetable matter, including frozen and dried foods containing marine and blue-green algae. It will also feed on (and help control) algae growing in the aquarium. I have kept this fish but only as a single. LA suggests that if introduced concurrently, they will do fine.



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