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wavemaker81 · 07/04/2011, 12:56 PM

I am cycling my 75g Reef system currently, but have been compiling my fish list. Here is what I have so far. Let me know what you think. Of course these will be added over the course of a year. I want to focus more on my corals.

2 - Percula Clowns
1 - Kole Tang (will be added last)
1 - Carpenters Flasher Wrasse or Golden Wrasse(Not sure if this wrasse is "reef safe")
3 - Ignitus Anthias
2 - Firefish
1 - Royal Gramma

If the above list is too much please make suggestions. Just trying to get an idea of what to keep on my list.

snorvich · 07/04/2011, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wavemaker81

I am cycling my 75g Reef system currently, but have been compiling my fish list. Here is what I have so far. Let me know what you think. Of course these will be added over the course of a year. I want to focus more on my corals.

2 - Percula Clowns
1 - Kole Tang (will be added last)
1 - Carpenters Flasher Wrasse or Golden Wrasse(Not sure if this wrasse is "reef safe") Carpenter's is a good choice
3 - Ignitus Anthias
2 - Firefish Would need to be a bonded M+F pair for long term survival.
1 - Royal Gramma

If the above list is too much please make suggestions. Just trying to get an idea of what to keep on my list.

StephLionfish · 07/04/2011, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mindytoy

so no one has had a dwarf lionfish? thanx sk8r

I don't know if someone already answered you...but here's my experience and what I've read.

Lions should NOT be kept with aggressive tank mates.
Tangs, Angels, Triggers, Puffers, are the first to come to mind of things NOT to be kept with lionfish. There's a whole sticky on why trigs and lions are bad tank mates in the Fish only and Aggressive fish forum on Reef Central.

I had a Hippo tang beat up my dwarf fuzzy lionfish. I had another tang beat up another dwarf lionfish. And the LFS had a Volitan Lionfish in with angels/tangs before I bought it, and the Angels and Tangs beat up the Volitan.

I've seen in person ( at the LFS) a trigger and puffer nip every last fin off of a Volitans. But, of course the LFS didn't care.

Lionfish WILL eat anything smaller than them. And aggressive fish WILL pick on lions, despite the venomous spines. The frilly fins of a lionfish just look too scrumptious sometimes. Some claim that they've kept puffers/trigs/ other nippers with lions with no probs.... But, the majority of people who have done so have lost a lionfish.

Lionfish should be weaned over to frozen food asap. I've done it multiple times. ( Quite difficult at times yes, but not impossible)

I had a P. Volitans in my reef tank with LEDs and it went blind after three days under the bright lighting. I've read that the bigger bodied lions can't handle bright lighting ( don't ask me why, I know lions are found on reefs in the wild :shrug: ) Dwarf lions can be kept in the stronger lit aquariums.

Lionfish are not aggressive. They just have a big mouth. It would be like someone calling a human aggressive because he ate a BLT that was flashed in front of his face.

If really interested in Lionfish, pop by the Fish Only and Aggressive Tanks forum.

snorvich · 07/04/2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by StephLionfish

I don't know if someone already answered you...but here's my experience and what I've read.

Lions should NOT be kept with aggressive tank mates.
Tangs, Angels, Triggers, Puffers, are the first to come to mind of things NOT to be kept with lionfish. There's a whole sticky on why trigs and lions are bad tank mates in the Fish only and Aggressive fish forum on Reef Central.

I had a Hippo tang beat up my dwarf fuzzy lionfish. I had another tang beat up another dwarf lionfish. And the LFS had a Volitan Lionfish in with angels/tangs before I bought it, and the Angels and Tangs beat up the Volitan.

I've seen in person ( at the LFS) a trigger and puffer nip every last fin off of a Volitans. But, of course the LFS didn't care.

Lionfish WILL eat anything smaller than them. And aggressive fish WILL pick on lions, despite the venomous spines. The frilly fins of a lionfish just look too scrumptious sometimes. Some claim that they've kept puffers/trigs/ other nippers with lions with no probs.... But, the majority of people who have done so have lost a lionfish.

Lionfish should be weaned over to frozen food asap. I've done it multiple times. ( Quite difficult at times yes, but not impossible)

I had a P. Volitans in my reef tank with LEDs and it went blind after three days under the bright lighting. I've read that the bigger bodied lions can't handle bright lighting ( don't ask me why, I know lions are found on reefs in the wild :shrug: ) Dwarf lions can be kept in the stronger lit aquariums.

Lionfish are not aggressive. They just have a big mouth. It would be like someone calling a human aggressive because he ate a BLT that was flashed in front of his face.

If really interested in Lionfish, pop by the Fish Only and Aggressive Tanks forum.

I believe you answered the wrong thread.

StephLionfish · 07/04/2011, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

I believe you answered the wrong thread.

??? Did I? I thought it was for anybody to answer...do I need to remove it or something?

doublenerds · 07/04/2011, 05:19 PM

Hi all,

I am starting a 75 gallon FOWLR with 30 gallon sump/refugium. My plan is to quarantine every fish for 4 weeks before placing in DT and add a new fish every 6-8 weeks.

Here is my planned stocking list - I'm thinking it might be too many fish and I'm on the fence about whether a 48" tank is long enough for the kole tang. Would love to hear your thoughts.

1 purple firefish
1 pair ocellaris clowns
4 cardinal pajamafish
3 ignitus anthias
1 McCosker's Flasher Wrasse OR 1 male Vrolik's wrasse
1 blue dot jawfish
1 canary blenny
1 mimic saddle puffer
1 Kole tang
1 blue mandarin (12 months after tank is established. The mandarin is actually the fish I want most of all....they are just gorgeous!)

snorvich · 07/04/2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by StephLionfish

??? Did I? I thought it was for anybody to answer...do I need to remove it or something?

No, no need to remove it.

snorvich · 07/04/2011, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by doublenerds

Hi all,

I am starting a 75 gallon FOWLR with 30 gallon sump/refugium. My plan is to quarantine every fish for 4 weeks before placing in DT and add a new fish every 6-8 weeks.

Here is my planned stocking list - I'm thinking it might be too many fish and I'm on the fence about whether a 48" tank is long enough for the kole tang. Would love to hear your thoughts.

1 purple firefish
1 pair ocellaris clowns
4 cardinal pajamafish
3 ignitus anthias A group of anthias is very marginal in this sized tank, a 125 or more would be preferable
1 McCosker's Flasher Wrasse OR 1 male Vrolik's wrasse
1 blue dot jawfish Prolific jumper so you must have a tightly covered tank (not egg crate)
1 canary blenny
1 mimic saddle puffer
1 Kole tang Ok, but marginal for this sized tank
1 blue mandarin (12 months after tank is established. The mandarin is actually the fish I want most of all....they are just gorgeous!)

The stocking level is on the heavy side for that sized tank, especially one which is new and not mature.

alexrex20 · 07/05/2011, 08:05 AM

30gal (24x24x12) reef tank with refugium, skimmer, 150W MH lamp.

orchid or neon dottyback
pair of perculas
purple firefish
mystery wrasse

Bigwyll · 07/05/2011, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigwyll

125g RR, Aqueon Profles Model 4 Sump, ecoxotic Stunner LED Strips 8,000°K White/453nm Blue and ecoxotic Panorama LED Module 8,000°K/453nm Blue for refugium, Red Sea C-Skim 1800, ViaAqua Water Pump Model 1800 for skimmer, Mag 18 return, 1 fluval E Series 300w heater, 1 Petco 300w heater in sump, 4" DSB, 90lbs of LR, 2 Korolia 2 powerheads(sp?), currently running 4 t5 but will upgrade to AI LEDs for coral.

Currently stocked with a 6line wrasse, 2 peppermint shrimp in DTand 2 in sump, 3 turbo snails, 2 emerald crabs

I have been running this set up since Feb. and I want to stocking suggestions. I almost purchased a group of convict tangs, but didn't after some feedback from my local fish club. Any suggestions? I'm looking for bright and beautiful but am limited by my plans for Mix Reef and the size of the tank.

Okay here's what I've come up with...

1 6line wrasse
2 Peppermint Shrimp
2 turbo snails
5 Nassarius Snails
^^^ Currently in tank

5 Blue Reef Chromis
2 mated Clowns
1 Royal Gamma
1 Purple or Yellow Tang
1 Bannerfish (if I can determine if it will not deplete my DSB)
1 Juvenile Blue Tang (I've seen many 125g tanks with small tangs. I don't know how fast they grow but I want to keep one while small for maybe 2 years. After that move it to my 250g build or find a better home. Tell me what you think.)

snorvich · 07/05/2011, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by alexrex20

30gal (24x24x12) reef tank with refugium, skimmer, 150W MH lamp.

orchid or neon dottyback
pair of perculas
purple firefish
mystery wrasse

You have a very aggressive fish plan. The firefish has no chance. The neon dottyback is a terror but the orchid (P. fridmani) less so. And the mystery wrasse can also be a terror. Once the clowns sexually mature they will want to control that entire tank.

snorvich · 07/05/2011, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigwyll

Okay here's what I've come up with...

1 6line wrasse
2 Peppermint Shrimp
2 turbo snails
5 Nassarius Snails
^^^ Currently in tank

5 Blue Reef Chromis
2 mated Clowns
1 Royal Gamma
1 Purple or Yellow Tang Of the two, yellow is easier from an aggression perspective
1 Bannerfish (if I can determine if it will not deplete my DSB)

Heniochus should have no impact on a DSB
1 Juvenile Blue Tang (I've seen many 125g tanks with small tangs. I don't know how fast they grow but I want to keep one while small for maybe 2 years.

Reef central does not recommend Hepatus tangs being kept in that sized tank. They grow fast, are swimmers, and become progressively aggressive

After that move it to my 250g build or find a better home. Tell me what you think.)

alexrex20 · 07/05/2011, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexrex20

30gal (24x24x12) reef tank with refugium, skimmer, 150W MH lamp.

orchid or neon dottyback
pair of perculas
purple firefish
mystery wrasse

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorvich

You have a very aggressive fish plan. The firefish has no chance. The neon dottyback is a terror but the orchid (P. fridmani) less so. And the mystery wrasse can also be a terror. Once the clowns sexually mature they will want to control that entire tank.

Thanks for the help. I'm pretty set on a firefish, even more so today after going to a "new" fish store that has Helfrichi firefish for a killer deal.

What about this revised fish list:

Helfrichi firefish
blue spotted jawfish
royal gramma
Yasha goby + red banded snapping shrimp

Can I add a flame angel as well?

snorvich · 07/05/2011, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexrex20

Thanks for the help. I'm pretty set on a firefish, even more so today after going to a "new" fish store that has Helfrichi firefish for a killer deal.

What about this revised fish list:

Helfrichi firefish
blue spotted jawfish
royal gramma
Yasha goby + red banded snapping shrimp

Can I add a flame angel as well?

Yes, that fish list would work even with the flame angel. The tank must be tightly covered for a blue spotted jawfish or any firefish.

kevin32 · 07/05/2011, 06:46 PM

This is my first tank ever so bear with me. I decided to go with Fish Only in the 40g and work my way up. My tank has a built in overflow. Here is what I have......

-40lb live sand
-17lb live rock
-AquaC remora skimmer w/ 1200 maxijet
-sump (wet/dry system, with live rock at the bottom for biological filter)
-lights (No idea what light to get.......)

So far it has been cycling for a couple days so I'm still weeksss away before I can even add my first fish. Anyways here is what I'm to get.....

1 - Chromis
1 - Black and gold Damsel
1 - Helfrichi Firefish
1 - Purple Firefish
1 - Red firefish
1 - Gold Basslet
1 - Neon Goby
1 - Yasha goby + Candy Pistol Shrimp (LOVE THESE GUYS...

)
1 - Cleaner Shrimp

How does it look....

snorvich · 07/05/2011, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin32

This is my first tank ever so bear with me. I decided to go with Fish Only in the 40g and work my way up. My tank has a built in overflow. Here is what I have......

-40lb live sand
-17lb live rock
-AquaC remora skimmer w/ 1200 maxijet
-sump (wet/dry system, with live rock at the bottom for biological filter)
-lights (No idea what light to get.......)

So far it has been cycling for a couple days so I'm still weeksss away before I can even add my first fish. Anyways here is what I'm to get.....

1 - Chromis
1 - Black and gold Damsel
1 - Helfrichi Firefish
1 - Purple Firefish
1 - Red firefish
1 - Gold Basslet
1 - Neon Goby
1 - Yasha goby + Candy Pistol Shrimp (LOVE THESE GUYS...

)
1 - Cleaner Shrimp

How does it look....

Unfortunately the three firefish will not coexist long term in a small tank. I tend to avoid damsel fish as they are aggressive.

kevin32 · 07/05/2011, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snorvich

Unfortunately the three firefish will not coexist long term in a small tank. I tend to avoid damsel fish as they are aggressive.

Any suggestion on fish that would work well with the firefish. I think I will not get the damsel since they are indeed aggressive. Should I stick with one species of firefish?

snorvich · 07/06/2011, 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevin32

Any suggestion on fish that would work well with the firefish. I think I will not get the damsel since they are indeed aggressive. Should I stick with one species of firefish?

One firefish (of any species) should do one. You might consider a possum wrasse. However we don't really suggest fish, we provide advice on compatibility to your tank and other fish

kevin32 · 07/06/2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by snorvich

One firefish (of any species) should do one. You might consider a possum wrasse. However we don't really suggest fish, we provide advice on compatibility to your tank and other fish

Thanks for the quick response, do you know if it's okay to put pistol shrimp and cleaner shrimp together in a tank?

snorvich · 07/06/2011, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kevin32

Thanks for the quick response, do you know if it's okay to put pistol shrimp and cleaner shrimp together in a tank?

No problem at all.

baws187 · 07/06/2011, 08:38 PM

I want to buy a sand sifter star fish. My ? is it gonna knock my corals over or my zoas my urchin hits them alot.

Toddrtrex · 07/06/2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by baws187

I want to buy a sand sifter star fish. My ? is it gonna knock my corals over or my zoas my urchin hits them alot.

What size tank?

Unless it is a fairly large tank (( 180, at least )), I would pass on a sand sifting star -- they will stripe your sandbed clean of life, and then slowly starve to death -- could take 6-9 months to happen. They are best left out of most tanks.

baws187 · 07/06/2011, 08:54 PM

I have a 90 gallon tank Is there any kind of star of love them. I have a 4-6 inch cc bed.

Toddrtrex · 07/06/2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by baws187

I have a 90 gallon tank Is there any kind of star of love them. I have a 4-6 inch cc bed.

IMO/E, that tank is too small. There are several different colors of serpent stars -- the one in my 75 has been with me for 6+ years.

ziss · 07/07/2011, 11:18 AM

Hello Everyone!

My name is Alita and I am new to this Forum and to this hobby. Well, not that new - I did have a saltwater all fish aquarium about 8 years ago, but it wasn't successful. Now I want to give it another try. This time I want to create a small reef tank. There is so much information online it makes my head spin!

Here is what I want from my aquarium:

I want a small tank (because I live in the apartment, and as a beginner, I don't want to start with a big one)

I want it to have live rock, soft corals (coral that are easy to maintain), a few fish - ones who can live in a smaller tank such as clown fish, a few shrimps and/or crabs, maybe a starfish. So I don't really need to have fancy fish that like big aquariums, I mainly want to be able to grow beautiful colorful soft corals!

Please advise me what is the smallest size (or the optimal size) tank I need to accomplish what I want from the tank.

I was thinking about getting the Bio Cube Nano Reef tank. Is this a good option? If yes, what would be the best size (8, 14, or 29 gal)? And should I get a standard one or HQI? I read that HQI is good if you want to keep hard corals, but at this time I just want some basic, easy to maintain soft corals. Would the lights and filters of standard Bio Cube be enough to grow soft corals?

Also, I currently have an opportunity to purchase a used, but in great condition 29 gallon Bio Cube that is already cycled, with a few pieces of live rock, snails and hermit, with stand and extra filter for $300! Should I get it??

I am really excited about starting this reef tank and I would be really greatful for any advise and comments!!! Thank you!

07/05/2011, 06:46 PM	#4515
kevin32 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North OC, 92683 Posts: 901	This is my first tank ever so bear with me. I decided to go with Fish Only in the 40g and work my way up. My tank has a built in overflow. Here is what I have...... -40lb live sand -17lb live rock -AquaC remora skimmer w/ 1200 maxijet -sump (wet/dry system, with live rock at the bottom for biological filter) -lights (No idea what light to get.......) So far it has been cycling for a couple days so I'm still weeksss away before I can even add my first fish. Anyways here is what I'm to get..... 1 - Chromis 1 - Black and gold Damsel 1 - Helfrichi Firefish 1 - Purple Firefish 1 - Red firefish 1 - Gold Basslet 1 - Neon Goby 1 - Yasha goby + Candy Pistol Shrimp (LOVE THESE GUYS...) 1 - Cleaner Shrimp How does it look....

07/04/2011, 12:56 PM	#4501
wavemaker81 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 64	I am cycling my 75g Reef system currently, but have been compiling my fish list. Here is what I have so far. Let me know what you think. Of course these will be added over the course of a year. I want to focus more on my corals. 2 - Percula Clowns 1 - Kole Tang (will be added last) 1 - Carpenters Flasher Wrasse or Golden Wrasse(Not sure if this wrasse is "reef safe") 3 - Ignitus Anthias 2 - Firefish 1 - Royal Gramma If the above list is too much please make suggestions. Just trying to get an idea of what to keep on my list.

07/04/2011, 05:19 PM	#4506
doublenerds Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 63	Hi all, I am starting a 75 gallon FOWLR with 30 gallon sump/refugium. My plan is to quarantine every fish for 4 weeks before placing in DT and add a new fish every 6-8 weeks. Here is my planned stocking list - I'm thinking it might be too many fish and I'm on the fence about whether a 48" tank is long enough for the kole tang. Would love to hear your thoughts. 1 purple firefish 1 pair ocellaris clowns 4 cardinal pajamafish 3 ignitus anthias 1 McCosker's Flasher Wrasse OR 1 male Vrolik's wrasse 1 blue dot jawfish 1 canary blenny 1 mimic saddle puffer 1 Kole tang 1 blue mandarin (12 months after tank is established. The mandarin is actually the fish I want most of all....they are just gorgeous!)

07/05/2011, 08:05 AM	#4509
alexrex20 Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Spring TX Posts: 145	30gal (24x24x12) reef tank with refugium, skimmer, 150W MH lamp. orchid or neon dottyback pair of perculas purple firefish mystery wrasse

07/06/2011, 08:38 PM	#4521
baws187 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Harrisburg PA Posts: 120	I want to buy a sand sifter star fish. My ? is it gonna knock my corals over or my zoas my urchin hits them alot.

07/06/2011, 08:54 PM	#4523
baws187 Registered Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Harrisburg PA Posts: 120	I have a 90 gallon tank Is there any kind of star of love them. I have a 4-6 inch cc bed.

07/07/2011, 11:18 AM	#4525
ziss Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 11	Hello Everyone! My name is Alita and I am new to this Forum and to this hobby. Well, not that new - I did have a saltwater all fish aquarium about 8 years ago, but it wasn't successful. Now I want to give it another try. This time I want to create a small reef tank. There is so much information online it makes my head spin! Here is what I want from my aquarium: I want a small tank (because I live in the apartment, and as a beginner, I don't want to start with a big one) I want it to have live rock, soft corals (coral that are easy to maintain), a few fish - ones who can live in a smaller tank such as clown fish, a few shrimps and/or crabs, maybe a starfish. So I don't really need to have fancy fish that like big aquariums, I mainly want to be able to grow beautiful colorful soft corals! Please advise me what is the smallest size (or the optimal size) tank I need to accomplish what I want from the tank. I was thinking about getting the Bio Cube Nano Reef tank. Is this a good option? If yes, what would be the best size (8, 14, or 29 gal)? And should I get a standard one or HQI? I read that HQI is good if you want to keep hard corals, but at this time I just want some basic, easy to maintain soft corals. Would the lights and filters of standard Bio Cube be enough to grow soft corals? Also, I currently have an opportunity to purchase a used, but in great condition 29 gallon Bio Cube that is already cycled, with a few pieces of live rock, snails and hermit, with stand and extra filter for $300! Should I get it?? I am really excited about starting this reef tank and I would be really greatful for any advise and comments!!! Thank you!