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Unread 07/09/2011, 12:24 PM   #4551
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Here's my short list. I have a 120g tank. No coral now but will have at some point. I have a small pair of Ocellaris clowns and a cleaner shrimp now. Am I ok with these additions added slowly over time? I'm flexible as to what blenny and what gobies. Which to add now, and which to add last. Thanks.

3 zebra dartfish
1 citron goby
1 yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp
1 blue/green chromis
1 royal gramma
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Unread 07/09/2011, 01:21 PM   #4552
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Here's my short list. I have a 120g tank. No coral now but will have at some point. I have a small pair of Ocellaris clowns and a cleaner shrimp now. Am I ok with these additions added slowly over time? I'm flexible as to what blenny and what gobies. Which to add now, and which to add last. Thanks.

3 zebra dartfish they do well in groups, could even increase
1 citron goby
1 yellow watchman goby/pistol shrimp
1 blue/green chromis
1 royal gramma
1 starry blenny
3 bangaii cardinals These can coexist only a a M+F pair; why 3??




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Unread 07/09/2011, 02:04 PM   #4553
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My bad. I thought they were ok in small groups. Pajama cardinals are good in groups, right?


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My bad. I thought they were ok in small groups. Pajama cardinals are good in groups, right?
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Unread 07/09/2011, 04:33 PM   #4555
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My tank will be a 115 gallon (60x18x25) with a Trigger Systems Ruby 36s sump/refugium. I plan on doing a FOWLR tank but would be interested in which of my proposed fish selections would be detrimental to any future coral ventures. The list below would be on top of a "recommended" CUC from liveaquaria.com

-Pair of Ocellaris Clowns (Could I also go with another pair of black and white clowns?)
-Trigger of some sort (undecided)
-Yellow Tang
-Bicolor Angel (x2)
-2 or 3 different butterfly fish (after tank is established)
-Foxface
-Green Mandarin (x2)
-Blue Spotted Puffer
-Panther Grouper (jk)
What works, what doesn't work? Keep in mind I haven't put a whole lot of thought into the compatibility so please be gentle. And yes, I am kidding about the grouper.
Also, let me know if this would leave room to add fish later on down the line or if this is going to be a heavy bio load as is.
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Unread 07/09/2011, 04:39 PM   #4556
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My tank will be a 115 gallon (60x18x25) with a Trigger Systems Ruby 36s sump/refugium. I plan on doing a FOWLR tank but would be interested in which of my proposed fish selections would be detrimental to any future coral ventures. The list below would be on top of a "recommended" CUC from liveaquaria.com

-Pair of Ocellaris Clowns (Could I also go with another pair of black and white clowns?)
-Trigger of some sort (undecided) I don 't recommend them
-Yellow Tang
-Bicolor Angel (x2) Difficult fish and definitely coral nippers
-2 or 3 different butterfly fish (after tank is established) Definitely not reef safe except pyramids
-Foxface
-Green Mandarin (x2)
-Blue Spotted Puffer Can be aggressive towards tank mates
-Panther Grouper (jk) Yeah, right
What works, what doesn't work? Keep in mind I haven't put a whole lot of thought into the compatibility so please be gentle. And yes, I am kidding about the grouper.
Also, let me know if this would leave room to add fish later on down the line or if this is going to be a heavy bio load as is.
Thanks.
I think that is pretty heavy.


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Unread 07/09/2011, 04:50 PM   #4557
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I think that is pretty heavy.
Wow, talk about fast service.... thanks for the quick reply. Why do you not recommend the triggers (curious)?
On the angels.... So I need to choose whether I'd like to have corals or angels in the tank?
Ditto on the butterfly fish? Choose between them or corals?
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..... so there'd be no problem with having the two different types of clownfish?


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Unread 07/09/2011, 06:34 PM   #4559
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..... so there'd be no problem with having the two different types of clownfish?
You get ONE pair of clowns. Anything beyond that will not survive long term


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Unread 07/09/2011, 06:36 PM   #4560
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Wow, talk about fast service.... thanks for the quick reply. Why do you not recommend the triggers (curious)?
On the angels.... So I need to choose whether I'd like to have corals or angels in the tank?
Ditto on the butterfly fish? Choose between them or corals?
Again, thank you.
Dwarf angels are not really reef safe. You may get one that acts that way for a while but then becomes a terror especially towards LPS/meaty kinds of coral. I don't recommend triggers since even the more docile ones can be aggressive, especially in a smallish tank. For long term success in this hobby, having a peaceful tank will be better. Butterfly fish, except zoster and yellow pyramids are not going to be reef safe.


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Unread 07/10/2011, 07:10 AM   #4561
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I currently have a 55 gallon tank with a 45 gallon sump(An old 55 kicking around). I have 80 ponds of live rock, a magnum 350 filter, coralife 65 superskimmer, and a phosban reactor. The tank has been cycled for about 3 months now. I have one hi fin banded goby with pistol shrimp, one percula clown and 3 pajama cardinals. I was considering getting 3-5 green chromis(chromis viridis). Will this give me to much load on the tank. I also have an assortment of hermits,snails, one cleaner shrimp and a sally lightfoot also. I plan on adding corals around October after the tank has matured a little bit
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I currently have a 55 gallon tank with a 45 gallon sump(An old 55 kicking around). I have 80 ponds of live rock, a magnum 350 filter, coralife 65 superskimmer, and a phosban reactor. The tank has been cycled for about 3 months now. I have one hi fin banded goby with pistol shrimp, one percula clown and 3 pajama cardinals. I was considering getting 3-5 green chromis(chromis viridis). Will this give me to much load on the tank. I also have an assortment of hermits,snails, one cleaner shrimp and a sally lightfoot also. I plan on adding corals around October after the tank has matured a little bit
thanks for the advice
The bioload should be fine. However Chromis tend to winnow themselves down to one in the long run as they pick off the weakest member, then the next weakest, etc.


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Unread 07/10/2011, 09:54 AM   #4563
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Okay, I originally planned on getting a 150gallon, but I would probably end up spending the cost of the tank in upgrading the skimmer and better live rock(comes with the cheap stuff). I was wondering if this stock list would work for a 125 gallon with a 55 gallon sump, 170lbs of expensive live rock, and a Aqua Reef 180 skimmer.

Stocklist:
Fish
1 tribal blenny
2 black and white clowns
1 blue hippo tang
1 yellow watchman goby(maybe a pistol shrimp)
1 black cap basslet
3 neon gobies(maybe more help?)
a school of green chromis
1 Purple firefish
1 Flame Angel
2 Flasher wrasse(or a trio of one species
1 Yellow Tang
1 Chocolate Tang, Gold Rim Surgeonfish, or Tennenti Surgeonfish(which is easiest and would fit in best?)
1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby(if there isn't already too much for bio load and okay with the yellow watchman)

Inverts
Several cleaner shrimp
Clean up crew(hermits and snails)
Eventually Corals(waiting to make sure I can handle the fish first)

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Okay, I originally planned on getting a 150gallon, but I would probably end up spending the cost of the tank in upgrading the skimmer and better live rock(comes with the cheap stuff). I was wondering if this stock list would work for a 125 gallon with a 55 gallon sump, 170lbs of expensive live rock, and a Aqua Reef 180 skimmer.

Stocklist:
Fish
1 tribal blenny
2 black and white clowns
1 blue hippo tang No, the tank is not large enough by half
1 yellow watchman goby(maybe a pistol shrimp)
1 black cap basslet
3 neon gobies(maybe more help?) I don't think they get along with conspecifics except as a bonded pair
a school of green chromis They do not really school and will pick off the weakest until only one remains
1 Purple firefish flasher wrasses may intimidate
1 Flame Angel
2 Flasher wrasse(or a trio of one species
1 Yellow Tang Pick one tang or the other (except hepatus) for that sized tank
1 Chocolate Tang, Gold Rim Surgeonfish, or Tennenti Surgeonfish(which is easiest and would fit in best?)
1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby(if there isn't already too much for bio load and okay with the yellow watchman)

If you remove all the tangs, you should be fine except where mentioned above otherwise you would have too much for your sized tank

Inverts
Several cleaner shrimp
Clean up crew(hermits and snails)
Eventually Corals(waiting to make sure I can handle the fish first)

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Unread 07/10/2011, 01:04 PM   #4565
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Hi everyone. I currently have a 29g tank with 20lbs LR with two black ocellaris clownfish and was hoping to add another tankmate. I was hoping to add a Valentini Puffer, but wanted to check to make sure the fish would be compatible. Please let me know. Thanks!


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Hi everyone. I currently have a 29g tank with 20lbs LR with two black ocellaris clownfish and was hoping to add another tankmate. I was hoping to add a Valentini Puffer, but wanted to check to make sure the fish would be compatible. Please let me know. Thanks!
Once sexually mature, the pair of clowns will take over the tank and be very aggressive. A valentini puffer is semi aggressive and it is not likely to tolerate the clowns in such a smallish tank.


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Okay, I originally planned on getting a 150gallon, but I would probably end up spending the cost of the tank in upgrading the skimmer and better live rock(comes with the cheap stuff). I was wondering if this stock list would work for a 125 gallon with a 55 gallon sump, 170lbs of expensive live rock, and a Aqua Reef 180 skimmer.

Stocklist:
Fish
1 tribal blenny
2 black and white clowns
1 blue hippo tang
1 yellow watchman goby(maybe a pistol shrimp)
1 black cap basslet
3 neon gobies(maybe more help?)
1 Purple firefish
1 Red firefish
2 Flasher wrasse
1 Yellow Tang
1 Chocolate Tang, Gold Rim Surgeonfish, or Tennenti Surgeonfish(which is easiest and would fit in best?)
1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby)
1 Royal Gramma

Inverts
Several cleaner shrimp
Clean up crew(hermits and snails)
Eventually Corals(waiting to make sure I can handle the fish first)

Thanks
Would this revised stock list from the 125 gallon work in a 150 gallon set up?


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Would this revised stock list from the 125 gallon work in a 150 gallon set up?
My comments on this stock list still hold true for the 150 gallon tank. Please review them.

Stocklist:
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1 tribal blenny
2 black and white clowns
1 blue hippo tang No, the tank is not large enough by half
1 yellow watchman goby(maybe a pistol shrimp)
1 black cap basslet
3 neon gobies(maybe more help?) I don't think they get along with conspecifics except as a bonded pair
a school of green chromis They do not really school and will pick off the weakest until only one remains
1 Purple firefish flasher wrasses may intimidate
1 Flame Angel
2 Flasher wrasse(or a trio of one species
1 Yellow Tang Pick one tang or the other (except hepatus) for that sized tank
1 Chocolate Tang, Gold Rim Surgeonfish, or Tennenti Surgeonfish(which is easiest and would fit in best?)
1 Pink Spotted Watchman Goby(if there isn't already too much for bio load and okay with the yellow watchman)


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No blue hippo tang, chromis, or yellow tang.

Instead of the chromis' I was thinking a Royal Gramma, In place of the flame angel due to their reef habits I was thinking a regualar Firefish. Wouldn't a Gold Rim Tang(8.5 in) fit with the Tenneti Surgeonfish? The Tenneti has the smallest minimal requirment, any people experienced with either tang, some input please. If I must choose, which is easiest to care for?


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No blue hippo tang, chromis, or yellow tang.

Instead of the chromis' I was thinking a Royal Gramma, In place of the flame angel due to their reef habits I was thinking a regualar Firefish. Wouldn't a Gold Rim Tang(8.5 in) fit with the Tenneti Surgeonfish? The Tenneti has the smallest minimal requirment, any people experienced with either tang, some input please. If I must choose, which is easiest to care for?
As I mentioned in PM, only RC staff reply to this particular thread. If you want discussion, please post your question on the Reef Fish forum. Thanks.


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Ohhh woops, didn't know only RC staff reply in this forum. Sorry


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Ohhh woops, didn't know only RC staff reply in this forum. Sorry
I guess you did not read the Private Message I sent to you on this subject dated 07/09/11 which you read (according to the read confirmation I saved).


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pistol shrimp and randall goby pair?

Nano cube 28g. 45lb liverock.
Ocellaris
Coral Beauty Angel
Neon Goby
Six Line Wrass
Cleaner Shrimp
Pepperming Shrimp

Someone's giving me a pistol shrimp and Randall's goby for next to nothing ($25). What do you think?



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Nano cube 28g. 45lb liverock.
Ocellaris
Coral Beauty Angel
Neon Goby
Six Line Wrass
Cleaner Shrimp
Pepperming Shrimp

Someone's giving me a pistol shrimp and Randall's goby for next to nothing ($25). What do you think?
The deal is a good one, but that sixline wrasse may become a problem. It is not a certain problem, it is just that that fish can be come highly aggressive over time.


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The deal is a good one, but that sixline wrasse may become a problem. It is not a certain problem, it is just that that fish can be come highly aggressive over time.
Thank you for the input. I will go ahead and pick up the pair.

The wrasse is only about 1/4" and is currently the smallest in the tank. I'll watch its aggressiveness and trade it in if necessary.


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