Bubble Master Skimmers more info wanted??? - Page 19

UCanDoIt · 11/02/2006, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximus
Awesome Newreeflady! Btw, which pump does the BM150 come with?

I believe all BM skimmers come with exactly the same Sicci pump. They just had to restrict the BM150 model to match the body size. Looks like the BM150 will have an adjustment pipe on the exhaust.

africangrey · 11/02/2006, 04:23 PM

sang,
can you measure the cup size, umm I mean the length of the cup and what the needed clearance is to twist the cup off, thank you.
Spencer

Maximus · 11/02/2006, 04:28 PM

Spencer, off hand, I think you need 1 3/8" to remove the cup. I think the cup size (lol!) is around 10" in diameter. I'll verify when I get home.

africangrey · 11/02/2006, 05:00 PM

10" oh my god, that translates to about triple F.

africangrey · 11/02/2006, 05:17 PM

New price in effect:

The new prices are as follows.

ATI Bubble Master 150 Protein Skimmer ~ $399
ATI Bubble Master 200 Protein Skimmer ~ $529
ATI Bubble Master 250 Protein Skimmer ~ $749

And they won't extent the 10% off for another month, I really missed out

golfbomber · 11/02/2006, 07:46 PM

is the bm250 going too big for a 150 gallon with approximately 40 gallon sump. should i just get the 200?

Maximus · 11/02/2006, 07:52 PM

Personally, I think the 250 is overkill for my setup but I still enjoy it. I have a 150g tank with a 35g sump, so that is similar to your set up. I just came home a couple hours ago and fed the tank. Before it was fed, the water level was at the half way mark. Within minutes of feeding a small amount of pellets, the skimmer started to skim. This skimmer seems to skim as soon as food is added!!

Hammercoral · 11/02/2006, 08:14 PM

Drooling here, my bm 200 ships tomorrow!!. Thanks for the updates

golfbomber · 11/02/2006, 08:18 PM

crazy! skims right after feeding? do you feel that the neck is to wide to get a good skim mate? with a bigger skimmer and smaller tank the complaint is that you can only get wet skimate. the bm 200 has a narrower neck you can probably get thicker skimate.

I am on the second list for the bm 250 and there is some sort of mod that allows better control of the skimmer water level. but you are paying more.

max do you regret getting the 250 instead of the 200. i also beleive in overskimming and that is why i chose the 250 but rethinking my decision.

Maximus · 11/02/2006, 08:22 PM

I don't regret it all. As I mentioned earlier, I prefer wet skimming over dry skimming any day. To be honest, if the skimmer is taking out organics as soon as I add them to the tank, that is all I can ask for. This skimmer is such a nice addition that I dont even look at my corals anymore!! This is not a reef tank with a skimmer. It is now a skimmer only w/corals thrown in!

Aqua Keepers · 11/02/2006, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Maximus
Personally, I think the 250 is overkill for my setup but I still enjoy it. I have a 150g tank with a 35g sump, so that is similar to your set up. I just came home a couple hours ago and fed the tank. Before it was fed, the water level was at the half way mark. Within minutes of feeding a small amount of pellets, the skimmer started to skim. This skimmer seems to skim as soon as food is added!!

Yeah but with that skimmer you could probably overstock fish in your tank all you want with out a prob accept aggresion. This is why I'm contemplateing it for my future 125 with 55 sump.

Creetin · 11/03/2006, 03:25 AM

Wow, so the next generation has a gate valve on it? I would like to see it, and where they placed it. I like wet skimmate too, and after running a beckett for a year i got used to it.
I used to think of it as extra waterchange because it forced me to add about 5 gallons of fresh made saltwater a week.
I did my waterchanges as well, But every little bit helps.
Now i can have performance of a beckett and quiet, and energy savings of a needlewheel.
Sang I believe all the pipes are metric, So that may put a damper on your plumbing with it.
I will be making a run to canada (Live near boarder) and pick some metric sch 80 up. I can grab you some while i am there.
I have to look and see if it is metric, But i believe it is.

Creetin · 11/03/2006, 05:50 AM

Man i mean border. Thats what i get for getting on here before my coffie!!!

Creetin · 11/03/2006, 09:16 AM

Its on its way to my house, Theres snow on the ground, and its looking like christmas. LOL

Maximus · 11/03/2006, 09:43 AM

That would be great Creetin. I would appreciate it if you could grab me some metric fittings. I would gladly pay you for your time and expense. Thanks for the offer.

Creetin · 11/03/2006, 09:49 AM

No prob since i am going there for myself and for a friend, thats if they are metric. (Pretty sure they are though)
I'll pm ya when i do go.

Creetin · 11/03/2006, 12:53 PM

Man what a workout, These things never go easy, I had to cut a compartment out of my sump. The compartment was for a gfo or carbon, I bet carbon. This is a old scholl berlin sump with compartments everywhere. Now i have to re route the overflow piping to go around the skimmer. LOL And re work the return pump. The damn ocean runners are so damn big!!!
I am almost done but i have to run out and get pvc cement because mine dried out. Sheesh the things we do for a skimmer.
Now for the skimmer its a beast, I am glad i got it, It started pulling crud instantly. Granted my tank is a little ripe from being skimmerless, But only 2-3 minutes is all it took to start pulling crap out from being washed and plugged in,

I have to run out and get pvc cement, and after that i'll get some pics up.
Roland the neck is like 6 and 5/16 inches wide and the body is about 9 to 9 1/4. (Guesstimate) The cup is almost as big as the skimmer. LOL It came in its own package.
Greg did a hell of a job packing it.
I'll stop rattling and get my sump done.
BTW it is metric pipe. Its like an inch and 5/8ths. ID

wayne_sreef · 11/03/2006, 01:58 PM

Creetin,

Does yours come with the o-ring? I saw other two guys that metioned the ones they have don't.

Roland Jacques · 11/03/2006, 02:21 PM

golfbomber
I think they both will give you the same type of wet skimmate. less air , narrower neck=.....

Creetin,
thanks on the neck size.

Charlie Davidson · 11/03/2006, 02:33 PM

, Creetin. I am happy for you! (and jealous)

golfbomber · 11/03/2006, 02:54 PM

how much clearance is needed in total underneath your sump for the bm250??? i am building my stand right away here and need to know how much room i need, i dont feel like cutting out my sump and stuff!

Maximus · 11/03/2006, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by golfbomber
how much clearance is needed in total underneath your sump for the bm250??? i am building my stand right away here and need to know how much room i need, i dont feel like cutting out my sump and stuff!

You need around 23" to be on the safe side. Congrats Creetin! Post some pics now!

Creetin · 11/03/2006, 03:33 PM

Couple minutes, My back is sore from being hunched over all afternoon plumbing this thing in. LOL
No i didnt get an oring, But it doesnt leak. I will give greg a pm stating i want one when they come in.
I figured a way around the flimsy rubber hose they use to connect the pumps to the body. I took 3/4 inch spa flex and screwed that into the pump since it has threads, and jammed that into the skimmer body. Its the same size and much more stabil. It was a pita trying to get the pumps on and off in the sump. That flimsy rubber just kinked and poped off a dozen times before i took it out and looked for an alternative.
The spa flex works great!!!!

ridetheducati · 11/03/2006, 03:44 PM

Thats enough time...

We want pix. We want pix.

BTW, I just ordered a 250 from Greg. Should have mine in 2-3 weeks.

steve the plumb · 11/03/2006, 03:45 PM

to me the skimmer looks like a very good buy.I have the tunze 9020 wich works nice but it has a hydrafoamer pump but I think its the older models.My skimmer isn't as big as the 250 I am sure.It would be nice to see it in action.My tank is down I am waiting to restart again but I will go with a 265 gal or 400 gal.I don't think I will start again with anything smaller than that.I may buy the 250 as to have 2 skimmers.I am planning on running a 150 gal sump.

11/02/2006, 04:28 PM	#453
Maximus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Monterey County Posts: 6,442	Spencer, off hand, I think you need 1 3/8" to remove the cup. I think the cup size (lol!) is around 10" in diameter. I'll verify when I get home. __________________ This space for rent... Current Tank Info: 36x36x16 A.G.E. tank. Lighting: ATI Straton. Circulation: 2x Vortech MP40wQd's. Skimmer: Red Sea 300. Controller: Neptune Apex. Doser: Neptune Dos.

11/02/2006, 07:46 PM	#456
golfbomber Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: canada Posts: 106	is the bm250 going too big for a 150 gallon with approximately 40 gallon sump. should i just get the 200? __________________ If it doesn't involve productivity don't waste my time! Current Tank Info: 48x30x30

11/02/2006, 07:52 PM	#457
Maximus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Monterey County Posts: 6,442	Personally, I think the 250 is overkill for my setup but I still enjoy it. I have a 150g tank with a 35g sump, so that is similar to your set up. I just came home a couple hours ago and fed the tank. Before it was fed, the water level was at the half way mark. Within minutes of feeding a small amount of pellets, the skimmer started to skim. This skimmer seems to skim as soon as food is added!! __________________ This space for rent... Current Tank Info: 36x36x16 A.G.E. tank. Lighting: ATI Straton. Circulation: 2x Vortech MP40wQd's. Skimmer: Red Sea 300. Controller: Neptune Apex. Doser: Neptune Dos. Last edited by Maximus; 11/02/2006 at 08:16 PM.

11/02/2006, 08:18 PM	#459
golfbomber Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: canada Posts: 106	crazy! skims right after feeding? do you feel that the neck is to wide to get a good skim mate? with a bigger skimmer and smaller tank the complaint is that you can only get wet skimate. the bm 200 has a narrower neck you can probably get thicker skimate. I am on the second list for the bm 250 and there is some sort of mod that allows better control of the skimmer water level. but you are paying more. max do you regret getting the 250 instead of the 200. i also beleive in overskimming and that is why i chose the 250 but rethinking my decision. __________________ If it doesn't involve productivity don't waste my time! Current Tank Info: 48x30x30

11/02/2006, 08:22 PM	#460
Maximus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Monterey County Posts: 6,442	I don't regret it all. As I mentioned earlier, I prefer wet skimming over dry skimming any day. To be honest, if the skimmer is taking out organics as soon as I add them to the tank, that is all I can ask for. This skimmer is such a nice addition that I dont even look at my corals anymore!! This is not a reef tank with a skimmer. It is now a skimmer only w/corals thrown in! __________________ This space for rent... Current Tank Info: 36x36x16 A.G.E. tank. Lighting: ATI Straton. Circulation: 2x Vortech MP40wQd's. Skimmer: Red Sea 300. Controller: Neptune Apex. Doser: Neptune Dos.

11/02/2006, 04:23 PM	#452
africangrey Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N San Jose Posts: 1,483	sang, can you measure the cup size, umm I mean the length of the cup and what the needed clearance is to twist the cup off, thank you. Spencer

11/02/2006, 05:00 PM	#454
africangrey Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N San Jose Posts: 1,483	10" oh my god, that translates to about triple F.

11/02/2006, 05:17 PM	#455
africangrey Registered Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N San Jose Posts: 1,483	New price in effect: The new prices are as follows. ATI Bubble Master 150 Protein Skimmer ~ $399 ATI Bubble Master 200 Protein Skimmer ~ $529 ATI Bubble Master 250 Protein Skimmer ~ $749 And they won't extent the 10% off for another month, I really missed out

11/02/2006, 08:14 PM	#458
Hammercoral Registered Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Elmhurst Posts: 220	Drooling here, my bm 200 ships tomorrow!!. Thanks for the updates

11/03/2006, 03:25 AM	#462
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	Wow, so the next generation has a gate valve on it? I would like to see it, and where they placed it. I like wet skimmate too, and after running a beckett for a year i got used to it. I used to think of it as extra waterchange because it forced me to add about 5 gallons of fresh made saltwater a week. I did my waterchanges as well, But every little bit helps. Now i can have performance of a beckett and quiet, and energy savings of a needlewheel. Sang I believe all the pipes are metric, So that may put a damper on your plumbing with it. I will be making a run to canada (Live near boarder) and pick some metric sch 80 up. I can grab you some while i am there. I have to look and see if it is metric, But i believe it is. __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

11/03/2006, 05:50 AM	#463
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	Man i mean border. Thats what i get for getting on here before my coffie!!! __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

11/03/2006, 09:16 AM	#464
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	Its on its way to my house, Theres snow on the ground, and its looking like christmas. LOL __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

11/03/2006, 09:43 AM	#465
Maximus Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Monterey County Posts: 6,442	That would be great Creetin. I would appreciate it if you could grab me some metric fittings. I would gladly pay you for your time and expense. Thanks for the offer. __________________ This space for rent... Current Tank Info: 36x36x16 A.G.E. tank. Lighting: ATI Straton. Circulation: 2x Vortech MP40wQd's. Skimmer: Red Sea 300. Controller: Neptune Apex. Doser: Neptune Dos.

11/03/2006, 09:49 AM	#466
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	No prob since i am going there for myself and for a friend, thats if they are metric. (Pretty sure they are though) I'll pm ya when i do go. __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

11/03/2006, 12:53 PM	#467
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	Man what a workout, These things never go easy, I had to cut a compartment out of my sump. The compartment was for a gfo or carbon, I bet carbon. This is a old scholl berlin sump with compartments everywhere. Now i have to re route the overflow piping to go around the skimmer. LOL And re work the return pump. The damn ocean runners are so damn big!!! I am almost done but i have to run out and get pvc cement because mine dried out. Sheesh the things we do for a skimmer. Now for the skimmer its a beast, I am glad i got it, It started pulling crud instantly. Granted my tank is a little ripe from being skimmerless, But only 2-3 minutes is all it took to start pulling crap out from being washed and plugged in, I have to run out and get pvc cement, and after that i'll get some pics up. Roland the neck is like 6 and 5/16 inches wide and the body is about 9 to 9 1/4. (Guesstimate) The cup is almost as big as the skimmer. LOL It came in its own package. Greg did a hell of a job packing it. I'll stop rattling and get my sump done. BTW it is metric pipe. Its like an inch and 5/8ths. ID __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

11/03/2006, 01:58 PM	#468
wayne_sreef Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: MI Posts: 294	Creetin, Does yours come with the o-ring? I saw other two guys that metioned the ones they have don't.

11/03/2006, 02:21 PM	#469
Roland Jacques Premium Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 2,848	golfbomber I think they both will give you the same type of wet skimmate. less air , narrower neck=..... Creetin, thanks on the neck size. __________________ Roland

11/03/2006, 02:33 PM	#470
Charlie Davidson Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Deltaville , Va Posts: 10,977	, Creetin. I am happy for you! (and jealous) __________________ Richmond Reef Club Current Tank Info: Doing without for a while :)

11/03/2006, 02:54 PM	#471
golfbomber Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: canada Posts: 106	how much clearance is needed in total underneath your sump for the bm250??? i am building my stand right away here and need to know how much room i need, i dont feel like cutting out my sump and stuff! __________________ If it doesn't involve productivity don't waste my time! Current Tank Info: 48x30x30

11/03/2006, 03:33 PM	#473
Creetin Limestone Cowboy. Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: In a little place i like to call a little place. Posts: 4,552	Couple minutes, My back is sore from being hunched over all afternoon plumbing this thing in. LOL No i didnt get an oring, But it doesnt leak. I will give greg a pm stating i want one when they come in. I figured a way around the flimsy rubber hose they use to connect the pumps to the body. I took 3/4 inch spa flex and screwed that into the pump since it has threads, and jammed that into the skimmer body. Its the same size and much more stabil. It was a pita trying to get the pumps on and off in the sump. That flimsy rubber just kinked and poped off a dozen times before i took it out and looked for an alternative. The spa flex works great!!!! __________________ If only common sense was common. Current Tank Info: 300 gal marineland deep

11/03/2006, 03:44 PM	#474
ridetheducati 20 and Over Club Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 2,968	Thats enough time... We want pix. We want pix. BTW, I just ordered a 250 from Greg. Should have mine in 2-3 weeks. __________________ "Send more paramedics" Current Tank Info: 300g DD, SPS dominated, Apex, Tunze 6125s, ATB 1050, 400w MH, and Geo 618 Ca Reactor

11/03/2006, 03:45 PM	#475
steve the plumb Moved On Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 3,664	to me the skimmer looks like a very good buy.I have the tunze 9020 wich works nice but it has a hydrafoamer pump but I think its the older models.My skimmer isn't as big as the 250 I am sure.It would be nice to see it in action.My tank is down I am waiting to restart again but I will go with a 265 gal or 400 gal.I don't think I will start again with anything smaller than that.I may buy the 250 as to have 2 skimmers.I am planning on running a 150 gal sump.