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snorvich · 07/23/2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mtway

I have a 100 gallon tank, wet\dry filter, protein skimmer in sump. hang on back refug should be here Friday, dual wave maker fans and controler, and a 4 bulb HO light. 30lbs of live rock and 80 more here Friday as well. 6 condi, 1 pencil urchin, 3 fire fish gobys, 2 med clown, 1 eyelash blennie, 1 bicolor angel, 1 dwarf lion fish, 4 emerald crabs, god knows how many blue legged, and red hermits, pepermint shrimp, 1 skunk shrimp and many mexican turbo snails. I have a fox faced fish on its way.

The only problem I currently have is my sump pump can not keep up with my overflow box. I did not take into account the loss in flow rate to get the water over the top of the tank 3.5' above the sump. My overflow takes 590gph with both siphons. I only have one siphon running and the ball valve half off to make sure the pump can keep up with the flow. I am looking for the right pump to keep up with the overflow.

The problem mentioned should be a separate question in the new to the hobby forum but not this thread which is about fish. However there are some problems in your fish list.

GlenG · 07/24/2011, 09:02 AM

5" Powder Blue Tang. What is the smallest QT it can go in? Any other recommendations, tips, tricks, duration, qt setup welcome.

Query · 07/24/2011, 09:19 AM

I have a 75-gallon tank with a 5-gallon sump. There are about 200 pounds of live rock, and 50 pounds of live sand. I purchased the tank with the livestock and some of the rock from someone else, so it's possible the names may not be exact, but:
Niger Trigger (3)
Maroon Clown
Black Blenny
Snowflake Eel
Green Wolf Eel
Chocolate Chip Starfish
(Both eels are over 8" long, if that makes a difference.)

I would like to get a cleaner shrimp, (or two?) but I am wary.
I am also currently using tap water, but will be getting the BRS 5-Stage Plus system soon. (I know invertebrates are very sensitive.)

snorvich · 07/24/2011, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GlenG

5" Powder Blue Tang. What is the smallest QT it can go in? Any other recommendations, tips, tricks, duration, qt setup welcome.

A difficult fish and the question is sort of beyond the scope of this thread. If it were me, I would have a minimum of a 40 gallon qt. I do not believe in treatment until a problem evidences itself, but again, that discussion is not for this thread which is about fish selection.

snorvich · 07/24/2011, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Query

I have a 75-gallon tank with a 5-gallon sump. There are about 200 pounds of live rock, and 50 pounds of live sand. I purchased the tank with the livestock and some of the rock from someone else, so it's possible the names may not be exact, but:
Niger Trigger (3)
Maroon Clown
Black Blenny
Snowflake Eel
Green Wolf Eel
Chocolate Chip Starfish
(Both eels are over 8" long, if that makes a difference.)

I would like to get a cleaner shrimp, (or two?) but I am wary.
I am also currently using tap water, but will be getting the BRS 5-Stage Plus system soon. (I know invertebrates are very sensitive.)

Wow, you are WAY overstocked. My only advice would be to reduce what you have.

Sk8r · 07/24/2011, 09:36 AM

Are you sure of your tank volume? The rule is 1-2 lbs live rock per gallon, 1 lb sand per gallon. A maroon is about the most aggressive (and toothed) clown going, about 5-7" in adult length, and it alone would claim all of a 100 gallon tank. Each niger trigger can reach 12" in length. The green wolf eel is actually a variety of dottyback that gets a foot and a half long and eats everything in sight. The snowflake is likely to eat everybody, however, topping a yard in length. Either you are trolling or you have been sold a tank by a person who collected whatever took his fancy and with no regard to its future. I can only recommend you turn in all this livestock in trade to the lfs nearest and start over.

Query · 07/24/2011, 03:08 PM

No, I am not trolling, lol...
I am not sure of anything, unfortunately. I just believed that it was what he said. I will have to check the dimensions when I get a tape measure, and let you know.
As far as being overstocked, I was worried about that, as well. He had a Flame Scallop, Serpent Star, and Hawkfish in there as well, though all three are gone now. I added 75 pounds of rock, and the sump (which included a MUCH better skimmer than the SeaClone 100 that came with it), in the hopes that it would make the tank healthier, because I didn't know what else to do.

snorvich · 07/24/2011, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Query

No, I am not trolling, lol...
I am not sure of anything, unfortunately. I just believed that it was what he said. I will have to check the dimensions when I get a tape measure, and let you know.
As far as being overstocked, I was worried about that, as well. He had a Flame Scallop, Serpent Star, and Hawkfish in there as well, though all three are gone now. I added 75 pounds of rock, and the sump (which included a MUCH better skimmer than the SeaClone 100 that came with it), in the hopes that it would make the tank healthier, because I didn't know what else to do.

Well, we are here to help. Check dimensions as a first step, but Sk8r gave good advice above as your inhabitants are the wrong inhabitants. So sorry. But you can go from there, it will just take patience.

Query · 07/24/2011, 04:15 PM

I don't know if my LFS takes fish or not, I will find out. I knew I paid too much for the tank, especially now that I have to give my livestock away.

shusker1 · 07/24/2011, 05:30 PM

I'm brand new to this hobby. Just bought a 150 gallon wall tank, with all the filters and pumps and a tall skimmer. Waiting for a cabnet that my wife ordered. Bro-inlaw has a tank and has been answering questions and turned us on to this forum. need lots of help. have been thinking about doing a shark and ray tank. main question is the tank came with coral sand, is it to rough for the rays. Can you put rock and coral in tank? Also how many sharks can you have in a tank? Rays? Can you put any other fish or shrimp, crabs or snails in a shark tank. We need help. Thanks

snorvich · 07/24/2011, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shusker1

I'm brand new to this hobby. Just bought a 150 gallon wall tank, with all the filters and pumps and a tall skimmer. Waiting for a cabnet that my wife ordered. Bro-inlaw has a tank and has been answering questions and turned us on to this forum. need lots of help. have been thinking about doing a shark and ray tank. main question is the tank came with coral sand, is it to rough for the rays. Can you put rock and coral in tank? Also how many sharks can you have in a tank? Rays? Can you put any other fish or shrimp, crabs or snails in a shark tank. We need help. Thanks

Unfortunately, I can not give you advice on keeping sharks and rays in such a small tank. We do have a forum for these kinds of animals but they are definitely not for New to the Hobby.

shusker1 · 07/24/2011, 09:18 PM

What would be good to start with? We don't have the lights it sounds like for a coral tank. We just wanted something that was colorful and pretty. We are open to any suggestions on fish. We were told by a local store that for every gallon we need that many crabs, is that true. They told us shark would be a easy way to start. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

snorvich · 07/25/2011, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by shusker1

What would be good to start with? We don't have the lights it sounds like for a coral tank. We just wanted something that was colorful and pretty. We are open to any suggestions on fish. We were told by a local store that for every gallon we need that many crabs, is that true. They told us shark would be a easy way to start. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Well, if an LFS is saying sharks is an easy way to start, I would definitely change LFS. That is very poor advice. I would be very happy to advise on a stocking list, but you would need to do the research on what you want as it is infeasible for us to recommend a fish stocking list on this thread. What exactly do you want to accomplish?

jharte · 07/25/2011, 07:50 AM

65 gallon oceanic tank, 36x24x18

Mated pair of true perculas, coral beauty and melanurus wrasse...I think these will be fine

But will a pair of coral banded shrimp pose any threats to the fish?

snorvich · 07/25/2011, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jharte

65 gallon oceanic tank, 36x24x18

Mated pair of true perculas, coral beauty and melanurus wrasse...I think these will be fine

But will a pair of coral banded shrimp pose any threats to the fish?

Coral banded shrimp can take fish.

swck1 · 07/25/2011, 06:56 PM

What do ya think about a ORA dragonet and a couple of enginer gobies as first ones for mature tank with anthias to follow later, little ORA dragonets are only bout a inch hope it wouldnt get lost. Oh and ya think any problems from existing pepp. shrimp. Thanks

snorvich · 07/25/2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by swck1

What do ya think about a ORA dragonet and a couple of enginer gobies as first ones for mature tank with anthias to follow later, little ORA dragonets are only bout a inch hope it wouldnt get lost. Oh and ya think any problems from existing pepp. shrimp. Thanks

Unfortunately the track record with ORA dragonets has not been a good one. Engineer gobies will rearrange, so be sure you want that.

swck1 · 07/25/2011, 07:33 PM

Do lyertail and disars anthias do the same in a MH lighted tank I read that the lyertials were from deeper water and disbars were from shallower water. I read and read the forums but couldnt find the answer?

snorvich · 07/25/2011, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swck1

Do lyertail and disars anthias do the same in a MH lighted tank I read that the lyertials were from deeper water and disbars were from shallower water. I read and read the forums but couldnt find the answer?

both will do fine under MH but either will need overhangs

TaNuki · 07/26/2011, 08:53 AM

180 Gallon Reef Tank- (72x24x24)

Thinking about:

yellow tang
Orange Shoulder tang
Niger Trigger (Are Clown Triggers any more aggressive than a niger/ can multiple triggers be together?)
True Percs x4
Blotched Anthias (way down the road)
Lyretail Anthias x 4
Watchmen Goby x2 (I have a pair that live together now)
Maybe some cardinals? (can different ones be mixed?)
Flame Angel
Mystery Wrasse
Cleaner Wrasse
Foxface Fish

These may even have me on the edge of over stocked (Foxface, 2 Tangs, and the Trigger), but I think I am close?

snorvich · 07/26/2011, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TaNuki

180 Gallon Reef Tank- (72x24x24)

Thinking about:

yellow tang
Orange Shoulder tang
Niger Trigger (Are Clown Triggers any more aggressive than a niger/ can multiple triggers be together?)

Clown triggers should be in a tank with no other fish

True Percs x4 will result in two only
Blotched Anthias (way down the road)
Lyretail Anthias x 4
Watchmen Goby x2 (I have a pair that live together now)
Maybe some cardinals? (can different ones be mixed?)
Flame Angel
Mystery Wrasse
Cleaner Wrasse African cleaner wrasses do well, otherwise they are problematical
Foxface Fish

These may even have me on the edge of over stocked (Foxface, 2 Tangs, and the Trigger), but I think I am close?

Well, I would not try 4 largish fish in a 180. I would subtract the trigger and yellow tang if it were me. That is a LOT of fish for a 180 . . .

TaNuki · 07/26/2011, 10:37 AM

^Thank you. I will pull two of the large guys and go from there.

Don't the Lyretails swim upside down under the over hangs at least?

Vadafallon · 07/26/2011, 11:20 AM

I have a 60 gallon tank with Aquatic life t5 4 bulb lights with LED moonlightsl. I have two clowns currently (and 3 damsels i will be getting rid of) i am going to get a lawnmower blenny, and a bullet goby. After that i plan on getting a clam. I was told i could put it higher up in the tank and it would actually embed itself into the rock. Any tips on keeping clams healthy and should that be ok with my tank? Also any other suggestions for fish in my tank? I have a nice a very nice reef octopus skimmer that i think is rated up to 150 gallon.

Toddrtrex · 07/26/2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Vadafallon

I have a 60 gallon tank with Aquatic life t5 4 bulb lights with LED moonlightsl. I have two clowns currently (and 3 damsels i will be getting rid of) i am going to get a lawnmower blenny, and a bullet goby. After that i plan on getting a clam. I was told i could put it higher up in the tank and it would actually embed itself into the rock. Any tips on keeping clams healthy and should that be ok with my tank? Also any other suggestions for fish in my tank? I have a nice a very nice reef octopus skimmer that i think is rated up to 150 gallon.

This is a fish thread, your clam question would be better answered here.

However, going to need to know what type of clam, your Cal, Alk, and Mag levels -- in addition to the other standard parameters. And if your fixture has individual reflectors or not.

Vadafallon · 07/26/2011, 11:27 AM

Ok thanks. Sorry my bad. I will post in the appropriate forum.

07/24/2011, 09:36 AM	#4756
Sk8r RC Mod Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 34,628 Blog Entries: 55	Are you sure of your tank volume? The rule is 1-2 lbs live rock per gallon, 1 lb sand per gallon. A maroon is about the most aggressive (and toothed) clown going, about 5-7" in adult length, and it alone would claim all of a 100 gallon tank. Each niger trigger can reach 12" in length. The green wolf eel is actually a variety of dottyback that gets a foot and a half long and eats everything in sight. The snowflake is likely to eat everybody, however, topping a yard in length. Either you are trolling or you have been sold a tank by a person who collected whatever took his fancy and with no regard to its future. I can only recommend you turn in all this livestock in trade to the lfs nearest and start over. __________________ Sk8r Salinity 1.024-6; alkalinity 8.3-9.3 on KH scale; calcium 420; magnesium 1300, temp 78-80, nitrate .2. Ammonia 0. No filters: lps tank. Alk and cal won't rise if mg is low. Current Tank Info: 105g AquaVim wedge, yellow tang, sailfin blenny,royal gramma, ocellaris clown pair, yellow watchman, 100 microceriths, 25 tiny hermits, a 4" conch, 1" nassarius, recovering from 2 year hiatus with daily water change of 10%.

07/24/2011, 05:30 PM	#4760
shusker1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Ogden Posts: 4	help I'm brand new to this hobby. Just bought a 150 gallon wall tank, with all the filters and pumps and a tall skimmer. Waiting for a cabnet that my wife ordered. Bro-inlaw has a tank and has been answering questions and turned us on to this forum. need lots of help. have been thinking about doing a shark and ray tank. main question is the tank came with coral sand, is it to rough for the rays. Can you put rock and coral in tank? Also how many sharks can you have in a tank? Rays? Can you put any other fish or shrimp, crabs or snails in a shark tank. We need help. Thanks

07/24/2011, 09:18 PM	#4762
shusker1 Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: North Ogden Posts: 4	Help What would be good to start with? We don't have the lights it sounds like for a coral tank. We just wanted something that was colorful and pretty. We are open to any suggestions on fish. We were told by a local store that for every gallon we need that many crabs, is that true. They told us shark would be a easy way to start. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

07/24/2011, 09:02 AM	#4752
GlenG Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 72	5" Powder Blue Tang. What is the smallest QT it can go in? Any other recommendations, tips, tricks, duration, qt setup welcome.

07/24/2011, 09:19 AM	#4753
Query Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: WI Posts: 31	I have a 75-gallon tank with a 5-gallon sump. There are about 200 pounds of live rock, and 50 pounds of live sand. I purchased the tank with the livestock and some of the rock from someone else, so it's possible the names may not be exact, but: Niger Trigger (3) Maroon Clown Black Blenny Snowflake Eel Green Wolf Eel Chocolate Chip Starfish (Both eels are over 8" long, if that makes a difference.) I would like to get a cleaner shrimp, (or two?) but I am wary. I am also currently using tap water, but will be getting the BRS 5-Stage Plus system soon. (I know invertebrates are very sensitive.)

07/24/2011, 03:08 PM	#4757
Query Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: WI Posts: 31	No, I am not trolling, lol... I am not sure of anything, unfortunately. I just believed that it was what he said. I will have to check the dimensions when I get a tape measure, and let you know. As far as being overstocked, I was worried about that, as well. He had a Flame Scallop, Serpent Star, and Hawkfish in there as well, though all three are gone now. I added 75 pounds of rock, and the sump (which included a MUCH better skimmer than the SeaClone 100 that came with it), in the hopes that it would make the tank healthier, because I didn't know what else to do.

07/24/2011, 04:15 PM	#4759
Query Registered Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: WI Posts: 31	I don't know if my LFS takes fish or not, I will find out. I knew I paid too much for the tank, especially now that I have to give my livestock away.

07/25/2011, 07:50 AM	#4764
jharte Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Maine Posts: 52	65 gallon oceanic tank, 36x24x18 Mated pair of true perculas, coral beauty and melanurus wrasse...I think these will be fine But will a pair of coral banded shrimp pose any threats to the fish?

07/25/2011, 06:56 PM	#4766
swck1 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 41	What do ya think about a ORA dragonet and a couple of enginer gobies as first ones for mature tank with anthias to follow later, little ORA dragonets are only bout a inch hope it wouldnt get lost. Oh and ya think any problems from existing pepp. shrimp. Thanks

07/25/2011, 07:33 PM	#4768
swck1 Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Louisiana Posts: 41	Do lyertail and disars anthias do the same in a MH lighted tank I read that the lyertials were from deeper water and disbars were from shallower water. I read and read the forums but couldnt find the answer?

07/26/2011, 08:53 AM	#4770
TaNuki Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 308	180 Gallon Reef Tank- (72x24x24) Thinking about: yellow tang Orange Shoulder tang Niger Trigger (Are Clown Triggers any more aggressive than a niger/ can multiple triggers be together?) True Percs x4 Blotched Anthias (way down the road) Lyretail Anthias x 4 Watchmen Goby x2 (I have a pair that live together now) Maybe some cardinals? (can different ones be mixed?) Flame Angel Mystery Wrasse Cleaner Wrasse Foxface Fish These may even have me on the edge of over stocked (Foxface, 2 Tangs, and the Trigger), but I think I am close?

07/26/2011, 10:37 AM	#4772
TaNuki Registered Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 308	^Thank you. I will pull two of the large guys and go from there. Don't the Lyretails swim upside down under the over hangs at least?

07/26/2011, 11:20 AM	#4773
Vadafallon Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 974	I have a 60 gallon tank with Aquatic life t5 4 bulb lights with LED moonlightsl. I have two clowns currently (and 3 damsels i will be getting rid of) i am going to get a lawnmower blenny, and a bullet goby. After that i plan on getting a clam. I was told i could put it higher up in the tank and it would actually embed itself into the rock. Any tips on keeping clams healthy and should that be ok with my tank? Also any other suggestions for fish in my tank? I have a nice a very nice reef octopus skimmer that i think is rated up to 150 gallon.

07/26/2011, 11:27 AM	#4775
Vadafallon Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 974	Ok thanks. Sorry my bad. I will post in the appropriate forum.