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[gcgrad]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Pretty good list. Always add the most peaceful first as long as they are not grazers. In your case, the firefish.

Thanks Snorvich!

I failed to mention the Golden Angelfish. That would probably be my most prized fish as they seem to be expensive! Will do my best to add the most peaceful non grazers first!

[paulkarell]

Could I replace the hippo tang with a powder blue? Argh, that tang was the whole reason I got a bigger tank DX and I guess I could part with the Butterfly :'(

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by paulkarell

Could I replace the hippo tang with a powder blue? Argh, that tang was the whole reason I got a bigger tank DX and I guess I could part with the Butterfly :'(

That fish is also an expert level fish, but at least it is suitable for the tank you have. But I strongly suggest reading this. I still recommend not putting an that eel.

[wavemaker81]

Ok I posted while back but have an entirely new list now. Here is my new list for my 75g reef tank.

2x Ocellaris Clownfish
3x Blue Green Chromis (Should I increase this number so they don't pick each other off?)
1x Kole Tang
1x Yellow Wrasse
1x Royal Gramma

Also which order should I add them to my tank?

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by wavemaker81

Ok I posted while back but have an entirely new list now. Here is my new list for my 75g reef tank.

2x Ocellaris Clownfish
3x Blue Green Chromis (Should I increase this number so they don't pick each other off?) I don't know any way to keep them from picking eat other off.
1x Kole Tang
1x Yellow Wrasse
1x Royal Gramma

Also which order should I add them to my tank?

I always tend to put in grazers last, in your case tat is the Kole Tang. The list is fine.

[gone fishin]

I currently have a 55 gallon with a 45 gallon sump. 80 pounds of live rock,coralife65 super skimmer and a magnum 350 canister filter. It is stocked with 3 pj cardinals, one percula clown, one blue and red faury wrasse and one green chromis viridi. I would like to add a blue chromis cyanea and a chalk bass to round out the stocking thanks for the input

[LStorm]

Trying to workout the livestock list for a 50g cube reef tank housing mostly sps corals. I'm setting the tank up as a large nano tank, so looking for mostly smaller, peaceful fish to keep in scale with the tank. Here is my selection thus far. Would love your input.

Also, would you have any recommendations for a small dither fish of some sort, perhaps green chromis or tail spot cardinals?

Listed in order of proposed introduction......

Yasha goby (pair) with shrimp (Stonogobiops yasha)
Tailspot blenny (Ecsenius stigmatura)
Rainfordi goby (Amblygobius rainfordi)
Pink streaked wrasse (Pseudocheilops ataenia)
Trimma gobies (3 to 5) (Eviota pellucida or Trimma Cana)
Swissguard Basslet (Liopropoma rubre)
Flameback Angel (Centropyge acanthops)

I heard Liopropomas may need colder water temps to thrive, is that true?

Thanks for you input...

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by gone fishin

I currently have a 55 gallon with a 45 gallon sump. 80 pounds of live rock,coralife65 super skimmer and a magnum 350 canister filter. It is stocked with 3 pj cardinals, one percula clown, one blue and red faury wrasse and one green chromis viridi. I would like to add a blue chromis cyanea and a chalk bass to round out the stocking thanks for the input

You are starting to push your capacity with adding two fish. Also, be sure your tank is covered with other than egg crate as fairy wrasses jump. I do not know how the various chromis will play together.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by LStorm

Trying to workout the livestock list for a 50g cube reef tank housing mostly sps corals. I'm setting the tank up as a large nano tank, so looking for mostly smaller, peaceful fish to keep in scale with the tank. Here is my selection thus far. Would love your input.

Also, would you have any recommendations for a small dither fish of some sort, perhaps green chromis or tail spot cardinals?

Listed in order of proposed introduction......

Yasha goby (pair) with shrimp (Stonogobiops yasha)
Tailspot blenny (Ecsenius stigmatura)
Rainfordi goby (Amblygobius rainfordi)
Pink streaked wrasse (Pseudocheilops ataenia)
Trimma gobies (3 to 5) (Eviota pellucida or Trimma Cana)
Swissguard Basslet (Liopropoma rubre)
Flameback Angel (Centropyge acanthops)

I heard Liopropomas may need colder water temps to thrive, is that true?

Thanks for you input...

I think your stocking list is superb. As for temperature, I keep my tanks at 76 F and have had no issues with Liopropoma although I have never kept that particular species.

[ikatuf]

Okay, so here goes I have my first tank cycling a 28G nano cube with 30 lbs of LR and a protein skimmer. The fish I would like to stock are:
2 Kaudern's Cardinalfish( M/F pair I hope, does this work like Clownfish? buy 2 juveniles?)
1 Flame Hawkfish
1 Blue/Green Reef Chromis
1 Yellowhead Jawfish or a Goby/Pistol pair (Would the Hawkfish leave the pistol shrimp alone?)
Is this too many fish for the tank? What would be the best stocking order?

Thanks for your thoughts

[BioFreak]

Hey All,
I recently was able to convince my wife to allow me to upgrade our aquarium.

I currently have a 52.5 gallon bowfront. The tank currently contains a mated pair of maroon clowns, a pygmy dwarf, a yellow watchman goby, (it's tiger pistol died about a year ago) a pajama cardinal, and a lawn mower blenny. For the inverts I have several blue and red hermits, and a coral-banded shrimp. Current corals consist of buttom polyps two different colors, several ricordi mushrooms (green, orange, and rainbow), an electric hammer coral, and electric green star polyps. I currently have about 60lbs. of live sand, and about 70lbs. of live rock.

Now that I have explained the current tank, I will go into my new tank. I found a great deal on a 125 gallon reef ready aquarium about 2 weeks ago. It is fully equipped, except for a chiller. Also getting an oak stand and canopy with it. The canopy is set with both Compact Florencents and Metal Halide. In the stand is a 50 gallon sump, which is supplied by an overflow box, the sump itself has the filter protien skimmer and heater insider. I have not personally seen the setup yet, so I have no idea what type of skimmer, filter, heater, or overflow box it has; same goes for the canopy setup.

My plan is to move the current reef into the 125 gallon. My wife has been wanting a snoflake eel and a puffer for a while now so a plan to convert the 52.5 into a FOWLR with those two.

What I would like to see is some suggestions of possible stock you would throw into this lager set-up. I would like to keep the fish stock moderate to low, to help keep water quality high with less effort on my part (I know thats a dream). But I would like to eventually have a wide varity corals. I know they are harder to care for, but they also don't move so I can always be pleased by them.

Since the tank will have a much larger area and my clowns a brutes and pick on everyone, I think they will find a much better area to nest in. I also believe I will have a much better chance to increase my school of cardinals back up to the group of five I originally had. I had moved and only two survived the move then the clown picked on a starved the second one by chasing it away from any food placed in the aquarium. Would it be a bad idea to introduce a new Tiger pistol.

Thanks for the help,

BioFreak

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by ikatuf

Okay, so here goes I have my first tank cycling a 28G nano cube with 30 lbs of LR and a protein skimmer. The fish I would like to stock are:
2 Kaudern's Cardinalfish( M/F pair I hope, does this work like Clownfish? buy 2 juveniles?) Buy two tank bred ones that are hanging out together. It does not work like clowns
1 Flame Hawkfish Pistol shrimp will likely be safe, but no other shrimp will be
1 Blue/Green Reef Chromis
1 Yellowhead Jawfish Jawfish are fascinating but are prolific jumpers so you need a covered tank with 1/4 inch holes


or a Goby/Pistol pair (Would the Hawkfish leave the pistol shrimp alone?)
Is this too many fish for the tank?

I think it will be ok, but just so as your are on the margin

What would be the best stocking order? No issues with stocking order

Thanks for your thoughts

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by BioFreak

Hey All,
I recently was able to convince my wife to allow me to upgrade our aquarium.

I currently have a 52.5 gallon bowfront. The tank currently contains a mated pair of maroon clowns, a pygmy dwarf, a yellow watchman goby, (it's tiger pistol died about a year ago) a pajama cardinal, and a lawn mower blenny. For the inverts I have several blue and red hermits, and a coral-banded shrimp. Current corals consist of buttom polyps two different colors, several ricordi mushrooms (green, orange, and rainbow), an electric hammer coral, and electric green star polyps. I currently have about 60lbs. of live sand, and about 70lbs. of live rock.

Got it

Now that I have explained the current tank, I will go into my new tank. I found a great deal on a 125 gallon reef ready aquarium about 2 weeks ago. It is fully equipped, except for a chiller. Also getting an oak stand and canopy with it. The canopy is set with both Compact Florencents and Metal Halide. In the stand is a 50 gallon sump, which is supplied by an overflow box, the sump itself has the filter protien skimmer and heater insider. I have not personally seen the setup yet, so I have no idea what type of skimmer, filter, heater, or overflow box it has; same goes for the canopy setup.

Depending on what comes with it, it may or may not be a "great deal"

My plan is to move the current reef into the 125 gallon. My wife has been wanting a snoflake eel and a puffer for a while now so a plan to convert the 52.5 into a FOWLR with those two.

Unfortunately I do not recommend either of these fish in a peaceful reef

What I would like to see is some suggestions of possible stock you would throw into this lager set-up. I would like to keep the fish stock moderate to low, to help keep water quality high with less effort on my part (I know thats a dream).

Unfortunately your wife's fish choice makes that difficult.

But I would like to eventually have a wide varity corals. I know they are harder to care for, but they also don't move so I can always be pleased by them.

Mushrooms make corals difficult as the mushrooms will take over the tank. However this is a fish thread not a coral thread so that question would be best posted as a separate thread in New to the Hobby

Since the tank will have a much larger area and my clowns a brutes and pick on everyone, I think they will find a much better area to nest in.

Not necessarily so. Those clowns will try to take over the tank and will not allow much to be added

I also believe I will have a much better chance to increase my school of cardinals back up to the group of five I originally had. I had moved and only two survived the move then the clown picked on a starved the second one by chasing it away from any food placed in the aquarium. Would it be a bad idea to introduce a new Tiger pistol.

Tiger pistol will be fine and will find your watchman goby easily

Thanks for the help,

BioFreak

[MineeMarine]

Sorry, I thought I might add that in the person above me, he said he was going to put the snowflake eel and the puffer in the 52 Gallon FOWLR. Then the 125 would house all his current fish and become a full reef. So the eel and puffer wont go in the peaceful reef.


Sorry, don't mean to annoy or bug anyone. And I know this is an expert only thread. Sorry.

[BioFreak]

Yes the snowflake and puffer are not reef safe that is why I stated they will be in a FOWLR tank, once I move the curent stock out of the 52 gallon.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by BioFreak

Yes the snowflake and puffer are not reef safe that is why I stated they will be in a FOWLR tank, once I move the curent stock out of the 52 gallon.

Which, of course makes it worse. The two demanding fish in a small tank is a bad idea. The mated pair of maroon clowns will not result in a peaceful reef.

[BioFreak]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Depending on what comes with it, it may or may not be a "great deal"

I say I found a good deal only because the set-up itself was made buy the store I am getting it from. It is a tank that is being sold back to them because the owners are having personal life issues (IE: chlorine tablets being dropped into tanks is never good). The set-up itself would normally have sold for about $1200.00 and then the price of the glass aquarium, oak stand and canopy on top of that. So you would be looking at about $2k-2.5k total cost. I am getting this tank for $650.

Once I see the system in the store I will repost again.

Originally Posted by snorvich

However this is a fish thread not a coral thread so that question would be best posted as a separate thread in New to the Hobby

I just posted here trying to get some suggestions of stock. Although I could post on the New to the Hobby thread, I would probably be posting advice for those who are new to the hobby. As, if you had read my profile prior to posting this you would have noticed I have been in the hobby (Salt Water) for more than 10 years now, and aquariums in general for about 25 years. Also, I never once posted a question asking what corals should I go with. I was just stating that I want to have a lot of them and a moderate amount of fish.

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That being said, Can someone please suggest some fish that they would put into a 125 gallon reef? Keeping the fish stock on the low to moderate side, to make care easier. Currently contains a mated pair of maroon clowns, a pygmy dwarf, a yellow watchman goby, (it's tiger pistol died about a year ago) a pajama cardinal, and a lawn mower blenny

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by BioFreak

I just posted here trying to get some suggestions of stock. That being said, Can someone please suggest some fish that they would put into a 125 gallon reef?

If you want suggestions and commentary from others, please post in Reef Fish. This thread is about providing feedback on suitability of fish to each other and the environment you are providing given a stocking plan provided by the poster. It is difficult for me to suggest fish for you because our tastes and budget differ plus I cannot suggest fish to add to a tank with a mated pair of maroon clowns. As far as experience goes, I always assume that if one is asking in this thread their experience level is undefined. As far as my personal experience it includes keeping fish since 1957 and marine fish since 1986. Less than some, more than others.

[BioFreak]

Originally Posted by snorvich

Which, of course makes it worse. The two demanding fish in a small tank is a bad idea. The mated pair of maroon clowns will not result in a peaceful reef.

What is it with this Peaceful Reef? Nature is not peaceful, I want a natural reef. On top of that most of the best reefs I have ever seen all contained maroon clowns. I my humble opinion, the most beutiful clowns you can get.

Originally Posted by snorvich

If you want suggestions and commentary from others, please post in Reef Fish. This thread is about providing feedback on suitability of fish to each other and the environment you are providing given a stocking plan provided by the poster. It is difficult for me to suggest fish for you because our tastes and budget differ plus I cannot suggest fish to add to a tank with a mated pair of maroon clowns. As far as experience goes, I always assume that if one is asking in this thread their experience level is undefined. As far as my personal experience it includes keeping fish since 1957 and marine fish since 1986. Less than some, more than others.

Thank You for you comments though. I was just wanting some suggestions that would work well with the stock I already have. You have now stated you can not do this so, Thank You.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by BioFreak

What is it with this Peaceful Reef? Nature is not peaceful, I want a natural reef. On top of that most of the best reefs I have ever seen all contained maroon clowns. I my humble opinion, the most beutiful clowns you can get.

No problem. You will get "better advice" in Reef Fish, so post there. This thread is answered by Reef Central Staff whereas Reef Fish is answered by who ever feels inclined.

[TheFishMan65]

Steve,

I have a Spotted Mandarin and a Scooter Blenny that are doing fine in a 75 gallon tank. The other inhabitants are: Yellow tang, fox fax rabbit fish, 2 clown and a flame angel. Snails, emerald crabs (I know you don't like these), a hermit (came in as a hitch hiker), and a mini carpet.

I am thinking of adding a Royal Gramma and would appreciate your opinion.

Thanks

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by TheFishMan65

Steve,

I have a Spotted Mandarin and a Scooter Blenny that are doing fine in a 75 gallon tank. The other inhabitants are: Yellow tang, fox fax rabbit fish, 2 clown and a flame angel. Snails, emerald crabs (I know you don't like these), a hermit (came in as a hitch hiker), and a mini carpet.

I am thinking of adding a Royal Gramma and would appreciate your opinion.

Thanks

Assuming you have rock work where there are overhangs/caves or similar, it should do fine. In the ocean they populate vertical walls, sometimes in groups but your aquarium can probably only sustain one at the size you have. Great coloration on this fish. (yes, I am not a fan of crabs in general)

[TheFishMan65]

Thanks for your quick response.

[snorvich]

Originally Posted by TheFishMan65

Thanks for your quick response.

My pleasure for sure. I am always happy to get questions where I can provide a positive response.

[bird78]

Steve,

Current setup is a 55g with 65lbs of live rock, and a 4 inch DSB with sugar fine aragonite sand. A clean up crew of snails put together from reefcleaners. Plan on corals and will probably add a fuge at some point as well. Plan on getting a mandarin sometime next year and want to make sure he fits in with the rest of the crew. Really like the personality of the blennys in the sand but would like a couple suggestions on some that would be friendly with the mandarin and not fight for food. Also curious if something like a Leopard Wrasse would be ok with him as far as food competition. I would also plan on restocking on pods every so often when necessary...

2 percula clows
1 blenny (looking for suggestions)
1 leopard wrasse
1 Mandarin (eventually)
1 blood red shrimp

Possibly 1 more or 2 if the Wrasse is out of the picture... any suggestions are great.

Thanks