Reef Central Online Community

Go Back   Reef Central Online Community > General Interest Forums > Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment
Blogs FAQ Calendar

Notices

User Tag List

Reply
Thread Tools
Unread 03/31/2011, 07:26 PM   #26
mfinn
Registered Member
 
mfinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Olympia. WA.
Posts: 8,648
I think it's a toss up between Tunze and Vortec's


__________________
240 gallon soft coral tank
50 gallon lps tank
mfinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/31/2011, 07:36 PM   #27
Pallobi
CTARS, BRS & OSRAS Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 7,001
if its reef, i say vortech, maybe tunze, but thats it... if its fowlr, go hydor, you dont need the specialized flow as much, but you will move some water for sure


__________________
Zoas & Palys
Pallobi is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/31/2011, 07:38 PM   #28
ksed
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 1,867
Tunze


ksed is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/31/2011, 08:01 PM   #29
Harry_Y
Registered Member
 
Harry_Y's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 454
I would have to say Tunze

They seem to be the most reliable, and the tunze rep gives fantastic support.


__________________
.

180 Gallon Reef with Basement Sump,
Apex Controller, Hamilton Cebu Sun Light,
Lifereef Skimmer and Calcium Reactor.
Harry_Y is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 03/31/2011, 08:13 PM   #30
SoLiD
-=Snake=-
 
SoLiD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 999
Quote:
Originally Posted by James77 View Post
Tunze or vortech. I prefer Tunze for their silence and known performance/reliability. Yes, either are very expensive, but they are the best performing pimps as far as flow inside the tank.
Tunze 6205s would be best probably.... They are a little cheaper than the mp60 at 500, but you would need a controller for it which runs about 150.
Everyone Raves about the Vortech's because they do include everything you need for one price. But IMHO "Tunze" Is Hands Down The Best Power Head The Average Aquarist Can Buy. All power heads have different advantages and disadvantages. Here are how I compare all the power heads that we have available to us.

Price:
1. Hydor Koralia ~$35-$500+ with Options
2. Tunze Turbelle ~$35-$1000+ with Options
3. Ecotech Marine Vortech ~$185-$2000+ with Options

Noise:
1. Tunze Turbelle - Dead Silent
2. Hydor Koralia - Slient but can rattle at start up.
3. Ecotech Marine Vortech - NOT A SILENT PUMP

Foot Print:
1. Ecotech Marine Vortech - Very Small With All The Models
2. Tunze Turbelle - Small with the Nano Stream Line
3. Hydor Koralia - Big Hunk of Junk In The Trunk

Controller Options:
1. Ecotech Marine Vortech - Eco Smart Controller has so many options.
2. Tunze Turbelle - Tunze Controller is Nice But an Apex or Profilux Controller will Unlock the Full Potential
3. Hydor Koralia - Hydor Wave Maker Is Nice But Lacks Advanced Features

Power Efficiency:
1. Hydor Koralia - ~0.6W-10W
2. Tunze Turbelle - ~4W-65W
3. Ecotech Marine Vortech - ~8W-60W

Just a quick comparison.


SoLiD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 08:10 AM   #31
BFG
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Singapore
Posts: 700
+1 on Tunze. I was told in this forum that Tunze wavemaker are problem free for the 1st 5 years. Mine been this way for 5 years. Great pump!


__________________
If you've learnt, teach.
If you have, give.
BFG is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 08:17 AM   #32
t4zalews
65g Ritteri Tank
 
t4zalews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Royal Oak, MI
Posts: 2,673
When I upgrade to a 180g...ill use my 2 mp40wes and then get two tunze streams for directional flow. Best of both worlds


__________________
- Taylor -

65g - Radion XR30 G3 Pro x2 - Deltec SCA 1351 - APEX - Tunze - Vortech
t4zalews is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 09:22 AM   #33
mayjong
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Sacramento CA
Posts: 2,426
i hear of issues with vortech... like what?


__________________
No Tanks... I'm out!
still lurking, though...
mayjong is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 09:28 AM   #34
BuckeyeTodd
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Orlando
Posts: 1,054
even if you have an issue, eco tech will take care of you. I accidentally flooded my power supply and controller(my fault) and they replaced both at no charge. I was floored. So if customer support is an issue, eco tech is the best around. If you go tunze route you need to buy whole system. You need a few powerheads, plus controller. I already had a few hydors for directional flow, so I just added a mp40 for the random flow


__________________
Current Tank 150 Cube 36x36x27
2mp40w es, four bulb Tek and six bulb Tek, SRO 3000
BuckeyeTodd is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 10:28 AM   #35
Doodlebugger
Registered Member
 
Doodlebugger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Alberton Montana
Posts: 3
Will the Hydros and Tunze work with 1/2" glass thickness? I thing I bought one of these years ago and my glass was just too thick to keep it in one place.


Doodlebugger is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 10:52 AM   #36
James77
Registered Member
 
James77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Rhode Island
Posts: 8,158
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doodlebugger View Post
Will the Hydros and Tunze work with 1/2" glass thickness? I thing I bought one of these years ago and my glass was just too thick to keep it in one place.
Any Tunze should be able to work through 1/2" glass, the 6105s are up to 3/4", and the 6205 is up to 1" thick.


__________________
Jim

Current Tank Info: 120g Mixed Reef and 75g Freshwater
James77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 12:57 PM   #37
goofball310
Premium Member
 
goofball310's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Wilmington, NC
Posts: 1,002
What are the dimensions of your 430? If you have room take a look at the Hydro Wizard. 1 Hydro Wizard will replace all the PH in your tank (12,000 gph). replace the ***** with RB

http://************.com/2010/08/09/h...ced-water-jet/



Last edited by goofball310; 04/01/2011 at 01:19 PM.
goofball310 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 01:18 PM   #38
goofball310
Premium Member
 
goofball310's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Wilmington, NC
Posts: 1,002
What options are you putting on a vortech to get it up to $2000? The only option I know for the Vortech is the battery back-up. Also, the cheapest Vortech is around $200-$220 for MP10w.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoLiD View Post
Everyone Raves about the Vortech's because they do include everything you need for one price. But IMHO "Tunze" Is Hands Down The Best Power Head The Average Aquarist Can Buy. All power heads have different advantages and disadvantages. Here are how I compare all the power heads that we have available to us.

Price:
1. Hydor Koralia ~$35-$500+ with Options
2. Tunze Turbelle ~$35-$1000+ with Options
3. Ecotech Marine Vortech ~$185-$2000+ with Options

Noise:
1. Tunze Turbelle - Dead Silent
2. Hydor Koralia - Slient but can rattle at start up.
3. Ecotech Marine Vortech - NOT A SILENT PUMP

Foot Print:
1. Ecotech Marine Vortech - Very Small With All The Models
2. Tunze Turbelle - Small with the Nano Stream Line
3. Hydor Koralia - Big Hunk of Junk In The Trunk

Controller Options:
1. Ecotech Marine Vortech - Eco Smart Controller has so many options.
2. Tunze Turbelle - Tunze Controller is Nice But an Apex or Profilux Controller will Unlock the Full Potential
3. Hydor Koralia - Hydor Wave Maker Is Nice But Lacks Advanced Features

Power Efficiency:
1. Hydor Koralia - ~0.6W-10W
2. Tunze Turbelle - ~4W-65W
3. Ecotech Marine Vortech - ~8W-60W

Just a quick comparison.



goofball310 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 02:40 PM   #39
tcmfish
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,658
Vortech


tcmfish is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 04:21 PM   #40
SoLiD
-=Snake=-
 
SoLiD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 999
Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by goofball310 View Post
What options are you putting on a vortech to get it up to $2000? The only option I know for the Vortech is the battery back-up. Also, the cheapest Vortech is around $200-$220 for MP10w.
Low Side: 1 MP10 can be bought with a 10% discount coupon for about $180, usually.

High Side: 3-4 MP60W ES's will put you over the $2000 mark easily.


SoLiD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 05:15 PM   #41
mfinn
Registered Member
 
mfinn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Olympia. WA.
Posts: 8,648
Quote:
Originally Posted by mayjong View Post
i hear of issues with vortech... like what?


Noise was my biggest issue with the MP40ES pair I had.
Once I heard it, I couldn't ignore it and it seemed to get pretty loud.


__________________
240 gallon soft coral tank
50 gallon lps tank
mfinn is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 05:24 PM   #42
NyReefNoob
skimmer freak
 
NyReefNoob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: peekskill, ny
Posts: 1,209
nothing compares to the flow of the vortech's and controllability, nothing compares to the longivity of tunze


__________________
custom 45g cube all in one, ai hydra 26, 2 mp10w, ac jr. ,bubble magnus triple doser, bm nac5 hob skimmer

My dad always said the only stupid questions are the ones not asked

Current Tank Info: custom 45g cube AIO
NyReefNoob is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 05:40 PM   #43
SoLiD
-=Snake=-
 
SoLiD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 999
Quote:
Originally Posted by mfinn View Post
Noise was my biggest issue with the MP40ES pair I had.
Once I heard it, I couldn't ignore it and it seemed to get pretty loud.
The sound was a major issue with me too. I could not understand how such an expensive power head could sound so loud. The controller is awesome though...


SoLiD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/01/2011, 08:43 PM   #44
sasharotty
Moved on to my couch
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: se michigan
Posts: 1,065
Quote:
Originally Posted by James77 View Post
but they are the best performing pimps



__________________
Go big or go home!!!!

Current Tank Info: Just loungin
sasharotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/02/2011, 06:26 AM   #45
watsonj
10 & Over Club
 
watsonj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Minneapolis,mn
Posts: 339
I had the Vortech mp40's for 6 months I got tired of the noise and the warts on the outside of the tank. i went to Tunze and what a great move silent, move a ton of water and with the Apex it is a slam dunk for me.


watsonj is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/02/2011, 09:49 PM   #46
keifer_unit
Registered Member
 
keifer_unit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Northeast PA
Posts: 37
Vortech then Tunze then Hydor.


keifer_unit is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/02/2011, 11:41 PM   #47
SoLiD
-=Snake=-
 
SoLiD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Posts: 999
Smile

Quote:
Originally Posted by watsonj View Post
I had the Vortech mp40's for 6 months I got tired of the noise and the warts on the outside of the tank. i went to Tunze and what a great move silent, move a ton of water and with the Apex it is a slam dunk for me.
+1...

Like I said before;The Ecotech EcoStmart is an Awesome Controller, but the best combo would be a Tunze Variable Speed power head coupled with an Apex or Profilux controller. All The Control & Flow along with the Silence!!!


SoLiD is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/03/2011, 12:48 AM   #48
Vipete1985
Registered Member
 
Vipete1985's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: LONG ISLAND NY
Posts: 83
vortech mp40for my 72 just got one n it blows my two koralias outta the water with the things this powerhead can do i am just amazed


__________________
GOd Bless everyone who is on here Helping others out with their tanks and giving ideas and suggestions.....I truly appreciate it and have learned so much from all the helpful people on this forum

Current Tank Info: 50 gallon Cube 20 gallon sump...GMP Liverock...Neptune Apex with Neptune Wav pumps...Interested in obviously keeping coral and fish for viewing purposes but my goal is to make these systems as automated as possible
Vipete1985 is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/03/2011, 04:38 AM   #49
RGibson
RGibson
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by yeldarbj View Post
tunze fan here.
+1


__________________
RGibson
RGibson is offline   Reply With Quote
Unread 04/03/2011, 05:06 AM   #50
turboadde
Registered Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3
+1 Tunze for silence and reliable and with profilux for great control. Waiting for tunze 6095 that saids to have a 75% larger output diameter for broader flow patterns.


turboadde is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Powerhead Feed Mode Ideas Khazmodain Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 0 02/14/2011 06:02 PM
$20 koralia evolution750 powerhead online reev Greater San Francisco Bay Area Reef Forum 13 12/04/2010 03:05 PM
Powerheads and Heaters : Are they too strong? desx2501 Lighting, Filtration & Other Equipment 5 11/19/2010 12:05 AM
What powerheads for a 75 gallon softie? Roblox84 Soft Coral Keepers 10 07/22/2010 02:21 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:38 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Powered by Searchlight © 2024 Axivo Inc.
Use of this web site is subject to the terms and conditions described in the user agreement.
Reef CentralTM Reef Central, LLC. Copyright ©1999-2022
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.