eyebedams 180 build - Page 2

Mdwannabe · 03/01/2007, 04:38 PM

And for what it is worth, I'm in with Gflat. Watch the in's-vs-out's.

As my tank has aged, it's out's are not up to it's in's with no parameters changed (they were initially). If possible oversize the out's, for what ever reason they always slow over time.

Just had to tear down my right side out line because it could not keep up. My overflow kept filling to a non-flow point. I found nothing, but it was slower than it should have been (or was for that matter). I replaced all 90's with double 45's and it helped, but the right side is still quirky.

Both my out's are reduce by 1/2" from possible max size, and I'm now thinking about a total rebuild of the outlet side to go to max size.

This far down the road, it's a PITA at best. Do it now, before time (and hassles) catch up with you. Make drain lines as big as possible, don't reduce them. Outlet controls are a piece of cake, but reducing you're inlet flow causes mental anguish.

Best case, you can up the inlet flow, as is my case, you have to reduce their flow for some time produced (unknown) reason.

PLEASE; all responses to this opinion should be started in a new thread, I don't want to take this one over.

Somehow, I just know people will have opinions.

Rick

Mdwannabe · 03/01/2007, 04:51 PM

waynesworld:

I'm there, just let me know, but see my last post. In my opnion don't reduce outlet flow diameter (from what is possible), for whatever reason, it slows!
I was a Mechanical engineer (in my past life) not a Hydrolic, but I know what I have seen over time.

Again: JMTCW

Rick

VikeBron · 03/01/2007, 04:51 PM

As the pics show, there are 2-1 1/2 lines for overflows not one. There are ball valves under the tank and also in the basement for adjusting the levels. As for when he cleans the skimmer, there are also ball valves near the pump for cutting the volume of up flow while the skimmer is apart. Also the MRC does not have to be completely shut down to clean. Only if you are cleaning the becketts the water is not flowing through it. The adjustment valve on the skimmer slows the bubbles but still lets the flow of water through.

SRT80 · 03/01/2007, 05:55 PM

Looks really good....but confusing. I don't think I could ever have a setup like that...

Steve

chris205 · 03/03/2007, 12:53 AM

Very coll Jason.

pitbullpooch · 03/03/2007, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SRT80
Looks really good....but confusing. I don't think I could ever have a setup like that...

Steve

thats what we all think then it turns into childs play. I was thinking my 500 gallon was never gonna get done but the plumbing was actually the easiest of all . the hard part now is filling it up with water and then the fish and coral. It never ends lol

pitbullpooch · 03/03/2007, 03:10 AM

i forgot to ask. when are you gonna start the cycle? and is it gonna reef?

greystreet41 · 03/03/2007, 08:06 AM

jason, love the stain color.

gottahaveaDori · 03/04/2007, 02:10 AM

Wow! What a setup! Good going!
Jason, it was great meeting you at the meeting! You are hilarious! I love reading your posts, too--usually gives me a laugh. You know, people are right...you don't look anything like "your picture" on the forum---ha ha.

pitbullpooch · 03/04/2007, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gottahaveaDori
"your picture"

hey now....you mean "james browns picture" lol yea james brown is one of a kind especially when getting a mug shot lol

gobyholic · 03/04/2007, 10:56 AM

SOMETHING ABOUT A KEG; HECK I'LL BRING U 10-51 GALLONS RO SALT WATER.

LOOKS GREAT.SO WHENS THE MEETING AT YOU HOUSE?? MAY? JUNE?

I WILL COME HELP OUT IF NEED IT JUST LET ME KNOW

BOB

eyebedam · 03/04/2007, 05:08 PM

Probably will be in june. Thanks for all the comments & input.
Casey thanks for the comments on the stain. It took me about a week to get it the way I liked it working on it a couple of hours every night.

eyebedam · 03/04/2007, 05:09 PM

Its def gonna be reef.

Kalied20 · 03/04/2007, 07:09 PM

HMMMM...Saltwater for beer? OK....

stlver1 · 03/04/2007, 07:21 PM

jason, looks great man...glad its finally comin together....

eyebedam · 03/05/2007, 08:18 PM

I got the ro droppin water in it as I type. May be full in a couple of days.

stlver1 · 03/05/2007, 08:21 PM

hope i get to see it up and runnin before i leave

VikeBron · 03/05/2007, 11:20 PM

Jason,
I will bring you one of my Tyree Green Polyp Leathers when I get back there in a couple weeks if you want. Pic below.

buwanna · 03/06/2007, 11:37 AM

The tank & stand are beautiful. Good job on the staining.

eyebedam · 03/06/2007, 02:39 PM

Steve thats exactly what im wanting that will be awesome. Have you had a chance to check on the sand yet?

VikeBron · 03/06/2007, 05:52 PM

HD does not even have that sku # valid anymore. I have yet to find a store that carries Yardright and the fools at the co will not respond to my many emails.
I will try a couple more options.

gflat65 · 03/06/2007, 06:00 PM

I'm still on for 10+ bags if anyone can find it. I'll likely be dumping my sand (at least in the 125) when we move, so I need some replacements

. Nothing's as cheap as Southdown and I like the mud.

rsteagall · 03/12/2007, 06:25 PM

Ok. I went to Jason's house this weekend to check it all out. I really need to practice with my camera... out of the 50+ pictures I took, here are the best:

http://picasaweb.google.com/rsteagall/Eyebedam

Have fun!

eyebedam · 07/27/2008, 05:07 PM

bump for dawg diggity

NeveSSL · 07/27/2008, 05:26 PM

You can't bump without new pics, Jason. Is a rule.

BTW, still got that Tyree leather? Holy cow! That thing is gorgeous!

Brandon

03/01/2007, 04:38 PM	#26
Mdwannabe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 653	And for what it is worth, I'm in with Gflat. Watch the in's-vs-out's. As my tank has aged, it's out's are not up to it's in's with no parameters changed (they were initially). If possible oversize the out's, for what ever reason they always slow over time. Just had to tear down my right side out line because it could not keep up. My overflow kept filling to a non-flow point. I found nothing, but it was slower than it should have been (or was for that matter). I replaced all 90's with double 45's and it helped, but the right side is still quirky. Both my out's are reduce by 1/2" from possible max size, and I'm now thinking about a total rebuild of the outlet side to go to max size. This far down the road, it's a PITA at best. Do it now, before time (and hassles) catch up with you. Make drain lines as big as possible, don't reduce them. Outlet controls are a piece of cake, but reducing you're inlet flow causes mental anguish. Best case, you can up the inlet flow, as is my case, you have to reduce their flow for some time produced (unknown) reason. PLEASE; all responses to this opinion should be started in a new thread, I don't want to take this one over. Somehow, I just know people will have opinions. Rick __________________ While their is no "I" in team-work, there is an "ME".... Current Tank Info: 59" l x 21" W x 31" T (custom 170 gallon), 3-400W/20,000K MH, LED Moon Lights, 1/4 HP Cooler, Ca Reactor, UV Sterilizer, 75 Gallon sump W/Fuge

03/01/2007, 04:51 PM	#27
Mdwannabe Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Nashville Posts: 653	waynesworld: I'm there, just let me know, but see my last post. In my opnion don't reduce outlet flow diameter (from what is possible), for whatever reason, it slows! I was a Mechanical engineer (in my past life) not a Hydrolic, but I know what I have seen over time. Again: JMTCW Rick __________________ While their is no "I" in team-work, there is an "ME".... Current Tank Info: 59" l x 21" W x 31" T (custom 170 gallon), 3-400W/20,000K MH, LED Moon Lights, 1/4 HP Cooler, Ca Reactor, UV Sterilizer, 75 Gallon sump W/Fuge

03/01/2007, 04:51 PM	#28
VikeBron Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,826	As the pics show, there are 2-1 1/2 lines for overflows not one. There are ball valves under the tank and also in the basement for adjusting the levels. As for when he cleans the skimmer, there are also ball valves near the pump for cutting the volume of up flow while the skimmer is apart. Also the MRC does not have to be completely shut down to clean. Only if you are cleaning the becketts the water is not flowing through it. The adjustment valve on the skimmer slows the bubbles but still lets the flow of water through. __________________ Steve "BETTER TO BE JUDGED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY 6" Current Tank Info: 180 Cube, 65 Red Sea Max

03/03/2007, 03:10 AM	#32
pitbullpooch Reefer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: michigan Posts: 637	i forgot to ask. when are you gonna start the cycle? and is it gonna reef? __________________ Mike Current Tank Info: 235gwide mixed reef

03/04/2007, 02:10 AM	#34
gottahaveaDori Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 74	Wow! What a setup! Good going! Jason, it was great meeting you at the meeting! You are hilarious! I love reading your posts, too--usually gives me a laugh. You know, people are right...you don't look anything like "your picture" on the forum---ha ha. __________________ JUST KEEP SWIMMING .... Current Tank Info: 2 mated maroons, carpet anenome, Powder Blue & Regal Tangs, Flame angel, scooter blenny, diamondbacks, blue damsels, royal gramma, lemonpeel angel, false perculas, fire & cleaner shrimps, black gobies, mandarin goby, neon goby,

03/01/2007, 05:55 PM	#29
SRT80 Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Smyrna, TN Posts: 2,090	Looks really good....but confusing. I don't think I could ever have a setup like that... Steve

03/03/2007, 12:53 AM	#30
chris205 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hiram, GA Posts: 48	Very coll Jason.

03/03/2007, 08:06 AM	#33
greystreet41 Moved On Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 975	jason, love the stain color.

03/04/2007, 10:56 AM	#36
gobyholic Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Murfreesboro, tn Posts: 64	SOMETHING ABOUT A KEG; HECK I'LL BRING U 10-51 GALLONS RO SALT WATER. LOOKS GREAT.SO WHENS THE MEETING AT YOU HOUSE?? MAY? JUNE? I WILL COME HELP OUT IF NEED IT JUST LET ME KNOW BOB

03/04/2007, 05:08 PM	#37
eyebedam Is Sailing the Seas Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Juliet TN Posts: 2,039	Probably will be in june. Thanks for all the comments & input. Casey thanks for the comments on the stain. It took me about a week to get it the way I liked it working on it a couple of hours every night. __________________ "There are many things you can refuse to do with a man. You can refuse to work for him, dine with him, or talk to him. But if he wants to fight, you have to oblige him." --Pat Buchanon “I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it." Thomas Friedman, NY Times Current Tank Info: 180 Gal plumbed in the basement with 200 gal sump. Decided to go aggressive from this point on.

03/04/2007, 05:09 PM	#38
eyebedam Is Sailing the Seas Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Juliet TN Posts: 2,039	Its def gonna be reef. __________________ "There are many things you can refuse to do with a man. You can refuse to work for him, dine with him, or talk to him. But if he wants to fight, you have to oblige him." --Pat Buchanon “I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it." Thomas Friedman, NY Times Current Tank Info: 180 Gal plumbed in the basement with 200 gal sump. Decided to go aggressive from this point on.

03/04/2007, 07:09 PM	#39
Kalied20 Registered Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Antioch, TN Posts: 830	HMMMM...Saltwater for beer? OK....

03/04/2007, 07:21 PM	#40
stlver1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mt. Pleasent, Tenn. Posts: 118	jason, looks great man...glad its finally comin together....

03/05/2007, 08:18 PM	#41
eyebedam Is Sailing the Seas Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Juliet TN Posts: 2,039	I got the ro droppin water in it as I type. May be full in a couple of days. __________________ "There are many things you can refuse to do with a man. You can refuse to work for him, dine with him, or talk to him. But if he wants to fight, you have to oblige him." --Pat Buchanon “I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it." Thomas Friedman, NY Times Current Tank Info: 180 Gal plumbed in the basement with 200 gal sump. Decided to go aggressive from this point on.

03/05/2007, 08:21 PM	#42
stlver1 Registered Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Mt. Pleasent, Tenn. Posts: 118	hope i get to see it up and runnin before i leave

03/05/2007, 11:20 PM	#43
VikeBron Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,826	Jason, I will bring you one of my Tyree Green Polyp Leathers when I get back there in a couple weeks if you want. Pic below. __________________ Steve "BETTER TO BE JUDGED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY 6" Current Tank Info: 180 Cube, 65 Red Sea Max

03/06/2007, 11:37 AM	#44
buwanna Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Greenbrier Tn. Posts: 66	The tank & stand are beautiful. Good job on the staining.

03/06/2007, 02:39 PM	#45
eyebedam Is Sailing the Seas Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Juliet TN Posts: 2,039	Steve thats exactly what im wanting that will be awesome. Have you had a chance to check on the sand yet? __________________ "There are many things you can refuse to do with a man. You can refuse to work for him, dine with him, or talk to him. But if he wants to fight, you have to oblige him." --Pat Buchanon “I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it." Thomas Friedman, NY Times Current Tank Info: 180 Gal plumbed in the basement with 200 gal sump. Decided to go aggressive from this point on.

03/06/2007, 05:52 PM	#46
VikeBron Premium Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,826	HD does not even have that sku # valid anymore. I have yet to find a store that carries Yardright and the fools at the co will not respond to my many emails. I will try a couple more options. __________________ Steve "BETTER TO BE JUDGED BY 12 THAN CARRIED BY 6" Current Tank Info: 180 Cube, 65 Red Sea Max

03/06/2007, 06:00 PM	#47
gflat65 Registered Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Montgomery, Al Posts: 8,720	I'm still on for 10+ bags if anyone can find it. I'll likely be dumping my sand (at least in the 125) when we move, so I need some replacements. Nothing's as cheap as Southdown and I like the mud. __________________ Was it for this my life I sought... Maybe so Maybe not.

03/12/2007, 06:25 PM	#48
rsteagall Registered Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Rockvale, TN (close to Murfreesboro) Posts: 1,612	Ok. I went to Jason's house this weekend to check it all out. I really need to practice with my camera... out of the 50+ pictures I took, here are the best: http://picasaweb.google.com/rsteagall/Eyebedam Have fun! __________________ Ryan Current Tank Info: One hand holding a beer, the other in the tank, and my toes typing on the keyboard. Drunks, reefing, and keyboards do mix in a 5GAL bucket with a 1200 MJ!

07/27/2008, 05:07 PM	#49
eyebedam Is Sailing the Seas Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mt. Juliet TN Posts: 2,039	bump for dawg diggity __________________ "There are many things you can refuse to do with a man. You can refuse to work for him, dine with him, or talk to him. But if he wants to fight, you have to oblige him." --Pat Buchanon “I’ve always believed that America’s government was a unique political system — one designed by geniuses so that it could be run by idiots. I was wrong. No system can be smart enough to survive this level of incompetence and recklessness by the people charged to run it." Thomas Friedman, NY Times Current Tank Info: 180 Gal plumbed in the basement with 200 gal sump. Decided to go aggressive from this point on.

07/27/2008, 05:26 PM	#50
NeveSSL Got tubes? Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 6,759	You can't bump without new pics, Jason. Is a rule. BTW, still got that Tyree leather? Holy cow! That thing is gorgeous! Brandon __________________ I am proof that post count is not directly proportional to "reef IQ". Zip Ties = Reef Duck Tape Geek it till it MHz!!! Current Tank Info: 180g Build in Process