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Unread 05/11/2007, 10:58 AM   #26
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We've had this poll about a dozen times, and eveyr time it comes out that dwarf angels are safe about 80% of the time. I dont know why people keep spouting this 50/50 crap.
Because some people would rather base their position on their narrow amount of direct experience and refuse to accept any new data once their opinion has been forged.

We should all bear in mind that all Dwarf Angels are not all the same in this respect. I truly believe that based on reading many, many posts on RC as well as my own experience that Flame Angels hold a better success rate than most dwarfs.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 11:00 AM   #27
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Trust my crappy carpentry skills to hold up 500lb's of weight for a long period of time.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 11:17 AM   #28
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alan214, I dont think flames are much safer than most dwarfs. Theyre actually kinda risky with SPS.


I just think there are a couple of angels that are really bad, and people seem to buy them an complain all the time.


IMO, Coral Beauties are pretty safe, as well as potters, and the argi complex. Lemon Peels are monsters.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 11:37 AM   #29
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Trust my crappy carpentry skills to hold up 500lb's of weight for a long period of time.
I agree


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Unread 05/11/2007, 01:15 PM   #30
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Fair enough. I still think its crazy keeping fish with a 20/100 chance of them picking at corals. =]


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Unread 05/11/2007, 02:49 PM   #31
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I've heard that Flame angels could be a problem sometimes. But Cherub angels are usually pretty safe, aren't they?


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Unread 05/11/2007, 02:54 PM   #32
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I've heard that Flame angels could be a problem sometimes. But Cherub angels are usually pretty safe, aren't they?
No such thing as a safe Centropyge angel. I've had Argi angels pester LPS corals to death.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 02:57 PM   #33
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Fair enough. I still think its crazy keeping fish with a 20/100 chance of them picking at corals. =]
Okay, so its crazy to keep:

Blennies
Tangs
Butterflies
Angels (dwarf and large)
Rabbitfish


Dwarf angels are no more likely to eat corals than any other herbivore.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 03:05 PM   #34
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Craziest thing I've seen? A 30-year old reef with beer bottles and soda cans inside!!

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Unread 05/11/2007, 03:05 PM   #35
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Rich, do you really just go thread to thread trying to start arguments with anyone?

The person has a personal preference on whether or not he thinks its crazy to keep a certain type of fish, based on a well observed fact that they are known to pick at corals. What are you even arguing about here? Its his opinion, which is also based in fact. How can you argue against that?


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Unread 05/11/2007, 03:13 PM   #36
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Okay, so its crazy to keep:

Blennies
Tangs
Butterflies
Angels (dwarf and large)
Rabbitfish


Dwarf angels are no more likely to eat corals than any other herbivore.
Gonna disagree there. Non Genicanthus Angels are far more likely to pick on corals to the point of killing them than any Tang, Blenny, or Rabbitfish is. In my 20+ years in the hobby I've seen more than a few Angels bother corals or clams enough to cause severe harm or death. In that same amount of time I've never seen a Tang, Blenny, or Rabbitfish do the same, and I've had and dealt with a lot more Tangs than Angelfish. I'm not denying that the other fish you mention can be problems, but the percentage of them that are problems isn't anywhere near that of Angels.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 03:18 PM   #37
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Dude who used a bunch of old broken bongs as his "rock" looked pretty cool actually a lot of nice colored pieces most were just cracked or the bottoms busted but still pretty crazy


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Unread 05/11/2007, 03:31 PM   #38
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really think there are more important thing to worry about. Hormones would break down. There are more heavy metals in your fish food, salt, etc, than you'd ever add peeing in the tank

Ok true, but I would be worried about the ph drop from lactic acid in urine And if your peeing in the tank for a long time.... well


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Unread 05/11/2007, 04:53 PM   #39
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Rich, do you really just go thread to thread trying to start arguments with anyone?

That's been my observation also. Never anything constructive to say, just comments that amount to "your wrong and I'm right".


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Unread 05/11/2007, 05:00 PM   #40
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I thought this was a "Craziest thing you see people do with their tanks" thread.

How did we get sucked into a Dwarf Angel argument?

You guys!!

Calm Down.

I think this thread was intended to be funny.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 05:33 PM   #41
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I want to hear more about people cutting out there center braces.
do you think it would work ok on a 75 gal


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Unread 05/11/2007, 07:26 PM   #42
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I want to hear more about people cutting out there center braces.
do you think it would work ok on a 75 gal
Not a good idea. If the tank didn't need a center brace, then it wouldn't have one.

It sounds like some people are getting by without it, but why tempt it at the risk of potentially losing ALL of your coral and livestock, much less cleaning up 75 gallons of saltwater. That could be a nasty and expensive mess.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 07:59 PM   #43
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I think the idea is to replace the center brace with an acrylic one so you can put a light over it without getting shadow rather than just removing it...which would be a very bad idea.

back on topic...

--using rio pumps!
--putting glass heaters into water!!!
-spending THOUSANDS of $$$ on a box of water.

Everythings crazy about this hobby


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Unread 05/11/2007, 08:17 PM   #44
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Craziest thing I have seen is a 55g pent tank with 13 holes drilled into it for the closed loop. Ya the tank had to be resealed, a cuple times.

HOB overflow boxes are pretty crazy IME.

Using HGH to stimulate SPS growth is pretty crazy, even if it does work.

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Unread 05/11/2007, 11:03 PM   #45
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Putting big giant fake corals in the tank that don't even resemble coral.

Dropping Ricordia polyps in a tank with a puffer (Ric's did not reach bottom of tank)

Newb adding anemone during cycle with a single PC light.

LFS ordering morish Idols by the dozens ( I don't know where he finds all these Idols) and people putting them in their tanks over and over only to have them die within the week, and then they buy them again.


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Unread 05/11/2007, 11:14 PM   #46
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Okay, so its crazy to keep:

Blennies
Tangs
Butterflies
Angels (dwarf and large)
Rabbitfish


Dwarf angels are no more likely to eat corals than any other herbivore.
guess they missed the humor


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Unread 05/11/2007, 11:20 PM   #47
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Unread 05/12/2007, 09:39 AM   #48
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Indeed, my thoughts exactly





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I--putting glass heaters into water!!!
Whats wrong with glass heaters? I would like to bet >90% of glass heaters breaking is a user error.


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Unread 05/12/2007, 05:02 PM   #49
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even if it is user error, there is still a lot of electricity being protected by that thin layer of glass....your telling me you've never broke one before?


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Unread 05/16/2007, 12:59 PM   #50
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Craziest thing I've seen? A 30-year old reef with beer bottles and soda cans inside!!
He must be a freekin Moron





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