Best CO2 Regulator, Solenoid, bubble counter? - Page 2

jdieck · 09/29/2007, 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by javajaws
, I use a flow meter instead of a needle valve.

Java which flow meter are you using? I have been researching some but have trouble translating bubble rate into proper flow meter range. What is your brand and it's range? I am looking for one that can read 100 bubbles per minute at the middle of the scale.

javajaws · 09/29/2007, 08:12 AM

Oh yeah, forgot to mention that even though I have a flow meter...I can adjust the bubble count by the knob on the regulator. It has VERY precise control of the output.

javajaws · 09/29/2007, 08:21 AM

I'm using a Dwyer RMA-151 that measures 5-50 cc/min Air. My bubble count is around 60/min I believe and is near the bottom of the scale. If you could find a 0-25 cc/min or equiv that would probably be better.

jdieck · 09/29/2007, 08:49 AM

I found these options:

This high end goes from about 40 to about 300 bpm
http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=0326700

This one goes from about 10 to 60 bpm
http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=0326600

This one from about 20 to 200 bpm
http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=0326602

Same with high resolution needle valve:
http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=3204402

cboberg · 09/30/2007, 11:02 AM

Bump. Im liking the Harris model

cboberg · 10/05/2007, 12:16 AM

Any others, is there an A&G brand?

cboberg · 10/05/2007, 10:04 PM

BUMPEROONIE

snorvich · 10/09/2007, 11:04 AM

Ok, so for those of use who are new to this whole area, if we go with the Harris Regulator, what all do we need? A flowmeter? A needle valve? Do they fit standard aquarium co2 delivery tubing? What else should I be asking? I would probably still need a solenoid since I control time on my Ca Reactor.

I have trouble with what I have now in that it does not remain constant when I set it and I tend to prefer to spend money once for the best rather than buy cheap and replace it.

As always, thanks for any information.

jdieck · 10/09/2007, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by snorvich
Ok, so for those of use who are new to this whole area, if we go with the Harris Regulator, what all do we need? A flowmeter? A needle valve? Do they fit standard aquarium co2 delivery tubing? What else should I be asking? I would probably still need a solenoid since I control time on my Ca Reactor.

I have trouble with what I have now in that it does not remain constant when I set it and I tend to prefer to spend money once for the best rather than buy cheap and replace it.

As always, thanks for any information.

Note that the Harris regulator is large and heavy and I would not recommend it to be used in a cylinder of less than 20 pounds.
If you go with the Harris Part Number 3302276 Model 9200-15-320 you will need a solenoid valve and a needle valve as well as some brass connectors and adapters to put it all together.
For a solenoid you can use:
This one can be conected directly to the regulator. (need connectors)
http://www.aquariumplants.com/Burker...1_p/bu6011.htm

Or one of these that conects in the tubing:
http://www.aquariumplants.com/CO2_So..._p/am73007.htm
https://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewI...ct~RS2321.html

For a needle valve you have a couple of options:
If you want some of the best look for the Parker metering valve 2F-H1L-BN-B-K which might go for around $140.00
http://www.parker.com/icd/cat/english/4170-HR.pdf

Other wise any of these will do:
http://www.marinedepot.com/ps_ViewIt...s~vendor~.html
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merch...ry_Code=cparts

Brent Thomann · 10/09/2007, 01:47 PM

or just get this one if you don't want to spend so much-
http://www.aquariumplants.com/product_p/co2-1.htm

I upgraded to that one awhile ago from the Milwaukee unit. Way better, haven't touched it since I original set it and it shuts on and off all day long. I feel its going to last a long time from the way its built, rock solid. not unusually bulky either.

Its not no Harris but its a huge step up from the Milwaukee unit and very sufficient for what we're doing.

Looks like they just raised the price as it was $149 shipped last week.

Waxxiemann · 10/09/2007, 02:35 PM

Yeah, it seems to me that if you want to go with the harris regulator and a nice needle valve and solonoid you'll be pushing the $500 mark. That's pretty high.

BTW- which model # of the Parker valves would be the right one for the harris regulator? Does the valve go after or before the solonoid?

Thanks.

javajaws · 10/09/2007, 05:08 PM

Here's what mine cost:

Regulator - $160
Solenoid - $50
Dwyer Flow meter - $35
Some brass hose barbs, etc. - $10

Waxxiemann · 10/09/2007, 05:26 PM

That's more what I'm shooting for. The other harris is nice, but $270 is a lot of cake.

jdieck · 10/09/2007, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Waxxiemann

BTW- which model # of the Parker valves would be the right one for the harris regulator? Does the valve go after or before the solonoid?

Thanks.

Parker metering valve 2F-H1L-BN-B-K from the HR series.

09/29/2007, 08:12 AM	#27
javajaws Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 1,620	Oh yeah, forgot to mention that even though I have a flow meter...I can adjust the bubble count by the knob on the regulator. It has VERY precise control of the output. __________________ Everyone has an opinion. Accept the fact now that someone isn't going to like yours sooner or later. Current Tank Info: 110g in-wall, ATI 8x54w T5, 2xMP40es, SRO XP-2000i, 2-part Ca/Alk, Apex controlled

09/29/2007, 08:21 AM	#28
javajaws Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 1,620	I'm using a Dwyer RMA-151 that measures 5-50 cc/min Air. My bubble count is around 60/min I believe and is near the bottom of the scale. If you could find a 0-25 cc/min or equiv that would probably be better. __________________ Everyone has an opinion. Accept the fact now that someone isn't going to like yours sooner or later. Current Tank Info: 110g in-wall, ATI 8x54w T5, 2xMP40es, SRO XP-2000i, 2-part Ca/Alk, Apex controlled

09/29/2007, 08:49 AM	#29
jdieck Registered Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Maumee, OH Posts: 15,673	I found these options: This high end goes from about 40 to about 300 bpm http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=0326700 This one goes from about 10 to 60 bpm http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=0326600 This one from about 20 to 200 bpm http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=0326602 Same with high resolution needle valve: http://www.coleparmer.com/catalog/pr...sp?sku=3204402 __________________ Did I write what I wrote? What the heck am I talking about! Well..... Nevermind. Current Tank Info: 225 gal reef, DSB, 40 g sump w/ LRT100 return, 37 g pre-sump, 3 MH 250 W 15K, 4 96 W PC dual actinic,ETS 1500 Skim.w/LRT70, 20 lb Ca R., 40 W UV, 1/3 HP chiller, two 350 W Htrs, Neptune II Cont., 330 P LR/ 330 P LS. 55 gal Refugium

10/09/2007, 11:04 AM	#33
snorvich Team RC member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Outlander Posts: 40,953 Blog Entries: 46	Ok, so for those of use who are new to this whole area, if we go with the Harris Regulator, what all do we need? A flowmeter? A needle valve? Do they fit standard aquarium co2 delivery tubing? What else should I be asking? I would probably still need a solenoid since I control time on my Ca Reactor. I have trouble with what I have now in that it does not remain constant when I set it and I tend to prefer to spend money once for the best rather than buy cheap and replace it. As always, thanks for any information. __________________ Warmest regards, ~Steve~

10/09/2007, 02:35 PM	#36
Waxxiemann Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,364	Yeah, it seems to me that if you want to go with the harris regulator and a nice needle valve and solonoid you'll be pushing the $500 mark. That's pretty high. BTW- which model # of the Parker valves would be the right one for the harris regulator? Does the valve go after or before the solonoid? Thanks. __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein

09/30/2007, 11:02 AM	#30
cboberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coarsegold CA Posts: 97	Bump. Im liking the Harris model

10/05/2007, 12:16 AM	#31
cboberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coarsegold CA Posts: 97	Any others, is there an A&G brand?

10/05/2007, 10:04 PM	#32
cboberg Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Coarsegold CA Posts: 97	BUMPEROONIE

10/09/2007, 01:47 PM	#35
Brent Thomann Registered Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: T. Tonawanda, NY Posts: 1,825	or just get this one if you don't want to spend so much- http://www.aquariumplants.com/product_p/co2-1.htm I upgraded to that one awhile ago from the Milwaukee unit. Way better, haven't touched it since I original set it and it shuts on and off all day long. I feel its going to last a long time from the way its built, rock solid. not unusually bulky either. Its not no Harris but its a huge step up from the Milwaukee unit and very sufficient for what we're doing. Looks like they just raised the price as it was $149 shipped last week.

10/09/2007, 05:08 PM	#37
javajaws Premium Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Round Rock, TX Posts: 1,620	Here's what mine cost: Regulator - $160 Solenoid - $50 Dwyer Flow meter - $35 Some brass hose barbs, etc. - $10 __________________ Everyone has an opinion. Accept the fact now that someone isn't going to like yours sooner or later. Current Tank Info: 110g in-wall, ATI 8x54w T5, 2xMP40es, SRO XP-2000i, 2-part Ca/Alk, Apex controlled

10/09/2007, 05:26 PM	#38
Waxxiemann Registered Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,364	That's more what I'm shooting for. The other harris is nice, but $270 is a lot of cake. __________________ "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe." Albert Einstein